Boiling Water: Container

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SkunkWerX

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I have been on a quest for containers that could also be used to boil (purify) water. Still looking for something in miniature form, for the mini-PSK, but I did go to REI today, and found these non-thermal, single walled, Stainless Steel bottles.
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http://www.reusablebags.com/store/klean-kanteen-27oz-stainless-steel-reusable-bottle-p-324.html

I was more surprised to come home and find them on sale, on-line.
Went to their Home-site and they are even rated for over a stove flame, or fire. I ordered one of the 27 oz. ones, which is what I saw at REI today.
The 27 ozer is about the same girth as a standrd aluminum can, but taller.

they come in other sizes, in case anyone wants a 40 ozer, 18 ozer, or smaller, 12 ozer. The 12 ozer. would be nice and compact. :thumbup:

They are being sold with Green/Tree Hugginess in mind, "save the plastic" bottles (and plastic whales) , but, they take care of two issues for me:
-Water storage
-a boiling vessel, all in one.
Throw a buillion cube in there and you have insta-broth.
Say goodbye to Nalgene and plastic bottles. (bye bye)
Much more affordable cost than Ti.

They certainly don't replace a 2q canteen or hydra-bladder, as the additional capacity is still needed in order to carry a days supply.

I've been looking high and low for something that would serve as a boiling container. The Sierra cups, and such, just weren't quite gettin it.

I'll provide input once I get it, and use it.
 
As an aside, by adding a coil of stainless brake line, you have a still for distilling the nastier water.
 
Oh man! I really have some ideas now! ;)

potato peelings, citrus peels...I'll be able to trade "Survival water" for knives, furs, and fire! :thumbup: :thumbup:
 
I have 1,500# of aluminum shavings for firestarting to trade for the firewater...how is the citrus?:D
 
Codger_64 said:
I have 1,500# of aluminum shavings for firestarting to trade for the firewater...how is the citrus?:D
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literally LOL

Hey skunk let me know when you get the first batch made, I am not that far from Maryland, I can probably rake something together to trade for some of that Survival Water, makes a great firestarter too. Chris
 
I've been using the Klean Kanteen in the 40oz size for about a year now. As I've posted before they do dent easily but that doesn't seem to matter. I recently purchased the smaller size on sale locally for a reasonable price. The 40oz size fits into the same cups as a Nalgene bottle does. I like these canteens!
 
I use the GI 1qt canteen with the steel cup. The cup I have is from 1958 so its solid and I don't worry about damaging it when I boil water in it. Unfortunately I've started using the 2qt more often so I lose the cup capacity sometimes and have to resort to only using purification tablets:(
 
I'm going to be ordering a Primus Litech kettle fairly soon. It has some nice features like a wide spout, anodized aluminium (far tougher than standard aluminum and pores 1/5 as deep decreasing chance of getting sick) handy 1 liter capacity, a compact squat shape and best of all it weighs only 150 grams!
 
2dogs said:
I've been using the Klean Kanteen in the 40oz size for about a year now. As I've posted before they do dent easily but that doesn't seem to matter. I recently purchased the smaller size on sale locally for a reasonable price. The 40oz size fits into the same cups as a Nalgene bottle does. I like these canteens!
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2dogs! why haven't you told us! :D
I know, I have probably not been listening. ;)

Good to hear. Not worried about dents as much as clean purified water.

thanks for the info. :thumbup:
 
It would be a pain to try and boil water on a stove in that little container, given the its small bottom surface. On the other hand, you could bury it up to the water line in coals and probably get it to boil pretty quickly. (Skunk: "Cool! My water is boiling, now how do I get the bottle out of the fire?")

-- FLIX
 
runningboar said:
literally LOL

Hey skunk let me know when you get the first batch made, I am not that far from Maryland, I can probably rake something together to trade for some of that Survival Water, makes a great firestarter too. Chris
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Chris and Codger, I'll make sure you guys get the "gold label" stuff, warms you twice, once going down, and twice when you spill it on the campfire. :eek:

Brings an ember to life with just one breath! :D
 
+1 to the old steel canteen cups. I have one from 1965, a good year for me...my cup and I are both 41. Mac
 
You could replace the cap keeper with braided steel leader and then you'd have a fire resistant loop to fish it out of the fire.

I sure wish these had a wider mouth, like a Nalgene bottle. It would make ithe KK a viable storage container as well. I looked at the 40 oz. model, which apparently will fit in Nalgene sleeves, but the narrow mouth isn't compatible with water filters & whatnot. I bet they'll offer a wide mouth before long.

-- FLIX
 
This is a little bigger, but has worked well for me (although I haven't boiled water in it, I received an email back from Wiggy's that said you could):

http://www.wiggys.com/moreinfo.cfm?Product_ID=100

It comes with a couple of rubber gaskets that can be removed when you put it in the fire. Nice, robust design.

ROCK6
 
+1 on the GI canteen cups. I carry two, one for drinks, and one for food, and have had both for over thirty years. Bulletproof things.

Good on open fires, gas burners, electric stoves and even C4!
 
Here is my water container set-up for short trips or a walk away from camp. The stainless steel cup fits in the carrier and the 32 oz. Nalgene bottle nestles in the cup. I carry the STEEL cup to boil water and as a digging tool should I ever need it. I have taped to the side of the cup two micro-pur tabs. The Nalgene bottle is wrapped in duct tape and under the duck tape I have 4 more micro-pur tabs and an adult dose of benadryl. With the tabs alone, I could treat 1.5 gallons of water.

I also tuck down along side of the cup, when in the carrier, an alcohol based wetnap and pre-packaged dental floss. Attached to the bottle holder is a compass/thermometer and an extra jute anklet (for tinder).

I have used this solution for about 3 years now and it works for me. Have extras set-up in the truck, etc.
 

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To address aluminum for a moment. In a survival situation ,Yes, aluminum would work, it would also be lightweight. If you had to, you could boil water in an aluminum beer can.

However, part of the problem with aluminum is, when boiling, with raw aluminum there is hazard of a lot of aluminum particles getting into the water, leaching effect.
The stop the leaching effect, commercial container companies coat the inside of the aluminum container with some kind of epoxy sealer, so, when you boil you may get whatever type of sealing material into your water.
In a survival sitaution it probably won't kill you as quickly as cholera, or dehydration itself, but, it's another one of those things to be mindful of.

That's probably why you see hikers using tin soup cans rather than aluminum cans.

Just my two cents, whether it's a soupcan or an aluminum can,
I'd boil it off a couple times, before using it for boiling drinking water.
The epoxy sealers can't be good for us. :barf:

Stainless steel :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup:
 
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