Boiling Water: Container

The stainless steel bottle thing has been the rage with a few people here at worksince last spring. So far, i have stuck with my Nalgene PE and Lexan bottle for my daily beverage routine. I boil water, dump in in the bottle, add a few tea bags, steep it for an hour, and then toss the bottle in the freezer for iced tea all afternoon. i haven't had a bottle failure in about a year and a half.

I like the stainless steel bottle idea, but in my little 'adventure' kits, I have Stansport #359 1-liter stainless steel pots, pictured at this link at the bottom of the page: http://www.stansport.com/pdf.single.2005/pages.084_2005.pdf

The handle folds over onto the lid and locks, so you can transport a mag block/ferro rod, tinder, boullion cubes, tea, Esbit stove, etc inside the pot without worrying that everything will spill out. The 1-liter pot fits nicely on the Esbit stove and every other stove have. FYI, the .75-liter pot does not fit well on the Esbit stove. The 1-liter pot can boil enough water at one time to satisfy a couple people with beverage or reconstituted food. Plus, the lid speeds boiling time a little bit.

MSR makes stainless steel pots like Stansport pots, but are more than twice the price. I got my 1-liter Stansport pots at Sportsman's Warehouse for $6.99 a pop. I'll try to do up some pics of my pot for reference.
 
SkunkWerX said:
I have been on a quest for containers that could also be used to boil (purify) water. Still looking for something in miniature form, for the mini-PSK.
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Every ultralight hiker has been down this road (trail?). For a PSK, I've been looking for a PSK container that I can boil water in. The aluminum boxes with snap/bail closures are as close as I have come. The stainless steel "space saver" cups that others posted here are a great buy and you can really abuse them. It doesn't make a half-bad PSK kit to fill a 1 liter Nalgene with goodies and drop it in the space saver cup. It will keep everything in one place and waterproof, and a Nagene is pretty hard to break. You will see some really crappy commercial kits with a load of junk in a water bottle-- resist the urge :grumpy:

The SnowPeak 600 titanium cup has become my standard for solo hiking. You can use a safety-type can opener and cut the lid off a can of beans to get a perfect fitting lid for the 600 cup. Lid handles range from mini drawer pulls to duct tape to paper clips. The 600 boils just enough water for a 2-serving dehydrated dinner. The SnowPeak 700 comes with a lid and is just a couple ounces more. Some of the hard anodized aluminum pots are a very good buy-- about 1/2 what a titanium pot costs.

Antigravity Gear has the most bang for the buck when it comes to aluminum cook pots. I've considered doing a PSK that uses one of their pots with the lid duct-taped or rubber-banded in place.

There is an Esbit stove made to use a Foster's beer can. You can use the can on any heat source, provided that you have liquid in it. A Heinikin can will work too. I have one of these stoves and they are not a gimmick. It's about as cheap and light as it gets.

I've thought about using the little pot from a Boy Scout mess kit-- I have picked up whole kits at garage sales for a buck or two.
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Use the rest of the kit for dog dishes!

Campmor carries this 1.1 liter aluminum pot that is pretty good for feeding more than one person at a time. You could get a lot of survival gear in one. Not bad for $10. The have larger too-- Open Country is the brand.
 
Here's the stainless pot I use on my non-car camping trips. The small pot in the picture was the first one that I bought, but I found it wasn't stable on an Esbit stove that was opened up all the way.

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I usually supplement the 1-liter pot with either a GSI bottle cup that fit around a 32 oz Nalgene bottle, or a Cascade cup, which is sort of like a Sierra cup, but the sidewalls aren't as conical, it has measurement marks, and a locking, folding handle.

Cups. Cascade Cup in the forground, bottle cup on the bottle. Both are stainless steel:
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I'd have to say the Cascade Cup is my favorite. it is as easy to eat out of as it is to drink out of.
 
DaleW said:
I went searching for the Cascade cup--very cool-- WHERE did you find it?
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I found the Cascade Cup a number of years ago at a store in Oconomowoc, WI called Sherper's. They are an outdoor/surplus store. They have a website, but there's not much on it: http://www.sherpers.com/

I'll keep an eye open for the Cascade Cup. If I find any on the web or out and about, I'll let you know. Here's what is printed on the bottom of the cup:

PINT (R)
CASCADE-CUP
Made in U.S.A.
Pat. # 4,593,833
 
Hi,

I've been keeping my eyes open for a small, light weight container for a survival kit. I wanted one a bit bigger than the Altoid tins, and I'd like to be able to cook out of it in case the need to boil water were to arise.

This is a titanium cup and lid, which are part of the Snow Peak Mini Solo Cook Set. The only drawback is that it's expensive ($55 Canadian for the kit, which includes a larger cup as well).

These pics give some idea of size (the light bulb is there for size reference, of course... not much help the bush :) ):

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Regards,

Mike
 
Walkabout said:
Hi,

I've been keeping my eyes open for a small, light weight container for a survival kit. I wanted one a bit bigger than the Altoid tins, and I'd like to be able to cook out of it in case the need to boil water were to arise.

This is a titanium cup and lid, which are part of the Snow Peak Mini Solo Cook Set. The only drawback is that it's expensive ($55 Canadian for the kit, which includes a larger cup as well).

Regards,

Mike
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Hey Walkabout,

Is that a misprint? Did you mean to say titanium or did you mean gold? :eek: It looks like a really nice little cup/pot but dang, that's expensive.

Doc
 
Hey Doc,

Young or Naive people will buy whatever is stylish at the moment.....Trying to interfere with that is suicide.

As a matter of fact Aluminum is lighter than Titanium and aluminum conducts heat much better than either titanium or stainless steel. Some day they will learn that. Do not hold your breath.
 
the only problem with Alu is that it leaches into the water and results in serious long term health issues. using it once in awhile won't really matter, but if you're using it everyday, I would rather go ano-ed alu (like those used in the calphalon range) or cast iron.

using it for camping once in awhile is fine.

i've often wondered why people were so crazy about the super light ti cookware when alu was lighter (but marginally weaker)...
 
What is your point Steve? You just repeated what everyone else said. carry titanium if you are concerned with ounces, carry aluminum if you're concerned with pounds.
 
stevetexas said:
Hey Doc,

Young or Naive people will buy whatever is stylish at the moment.....Trying to interfere with that is suicide.

As a matter of fact Aluminum is lighter than Titanium and aluminum conducts heat much better than either titanium or stainless steel. Some day they will learn that. Do not hold your breath.
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Hey stevetexas,

I wasn't trying to interfere with it. I strongly believe whatever works for you. If you have the spare cash and you like it, why not? There's a lot worse things you could spend your money on.

There's a lot of people who think that spending more than $15 - $20 on a knife is the height of stupidity. I'm assuming that we're not included? :D :D

Doc
 
stevetexas said:
Hey Doc,

Young or Naive people will buy whatever is stylish at the moment.....Trying to interfere with that is suicide.

As a matter of fact Aluminum is lighter than Titanium and aluminum conducts heat much better than either titanium or stainless steel. Some day they will learn that. Do not hold your breath.
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Quite the diplomat:rolleyes:
As I understand the titanium/aluminum issue, while aluminum is lighter you would need more of it to have the same strength. A titanium tool of the would be lighter than an aluminum tool of the same strength. The purpose of the container for me was that it be as light as possible and useful for boiling water in an emergency.

Of course, I may be naive in this (I wish I were young)... I'm sure you'll let me know :thumbdn:
 
Walkabout said:
Quite the diplomat:rolleyes:
As I understand the titanium/aluminum issue, while aluminum is lighter you would need more of it to have the same strength. A titanium tool of the would be lighter than an aluminum tool of the same strength. The purpose of the container for me was that it be as light as possible and useful for boiling water in an emergency.

Of course, I may be naive in this (I wish I were young)... I'm sure you'll let me know :thumbdn:
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OK.....you are YOUNG *S*

BTW, I have never ruined an aluminum pot because it was too flimsy
 
If you want tough as nails performance, and no metals or plastics leaching into your food/water, try stainless steel.

Of course, there are ways around the money issue too,
if one needs to be extremely conservative, go with the Campbell's soup can.
Apporved by hobos and bums since the Great Depression.
Time tested tough.
 
Titanium is much cooler than either aluminum or steel. I mean, even than name sounds cool. Titanium.

As for my container for boiling water... I don't carry one on day hikes. When backpacking, I'll carry a pot. Steel. Once they make a flat, foldable container that you can boil water in, I'll buy that.

If I used nalgene bottles instead of a Camelbak for hydration, I'd get one of those cool titanium cups that fit on the bottom of the nalgenes.
 
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