BP or Cabelas , or custom 110.

jimbo@stn23 said:
Kinda partial to CPM154, use it when I make my own blades if only for the reason it seems to be less fussy to sharpen, although I must say I do like Bos cooked S30V.

As for corrosion resistance, my next CS Buck will be in nickle because my brass bolstered Bucks seem to need alot of Brasso and TLC. A good reason to fondle your Bucks I guess, but I can't take 'em to work (H2S) due to the fact I'll be buffing them more often than usual. The H2S is hell on the brass, even if you leave them in the kitchen and in your lunch pail.
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Jimbo, if you are not working in the gas fields, I shudder to think of the other sources of hydrogen sulphide. :barf:
 
postfallsidaho said:
That is always the best option!! :D :thumbup:




Its a fantastic knife, but none of mine (rosewood) came in a limited edition box? Did they change something on the newer ones, or do you have a stag one?




:thumbup: Definately!! ;)
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The two AG 110s came in the Black LE boxes.One was rosewood and the other ironwood,sure wish I had a stag.The rosewood AG Vanguard came in the standard Buck box.I like it better than my Randall! :D
 
Wow, Sky thats saying something . "I like it better than my Randall !" I've read Randall uses 440B . I sure like both of mine, (the BP and AG) . Both seem to take a fine edge and cut nicely . Great steels ! The AG has more tooth to the edge from the vanadium . Mine came with the regular boxes . DM
 
David Martin said:
Wow, Sky thats saying something . "I like it better than my Randall !" I've read Randall uses 440B . I sure like both of mine, (the BP and AG) . Both seem to take a fine edge and cut nicely . Great steels ! The AG has more tooth to the edge from the vanadium . Mine came with the regular boxes . DM
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I almost hate to say it but the s30v with the Paul Bos treated steel is superior to my Randall.Way back when I had to wait a year to get that knife.I've been waiting almost 6 months for my Paradigm.LOL:)
 
Wow I've been gone 5 days and all sorts of post. Lots of interesting post on here. Thanks.
 
I'm not saying Randall steel isn't great,just saying BUCK S30V with Bos heat treat is better!!!!!!! That's my story and I'm sticken to it!:D
 

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I am not into the technical aspects of the blade.
Just like to buy and use knives that catch my eye.

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David Martin said:
K-Lastima said:
I am not into the technical aspects of the blade.
Just like to buy and use knives that catch my eye.

K-L, This is so refreshing . We get way to technical with our knifes . DM
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Absolutely David. If I wanted to get into metalurgy and all the technical stuff, I'd subscribe to a tech journal or join another forum that deals with that stuff.

Man, if's a Buck and if it's attractive, cuts reasonably well and I don't have to sharpen it every five minutes of use, I don't give a rat's behind what kind of steel it is. The fancy stuff is fine and fun to own, but it's sure not a deal breaker for me in picking a knife.:)
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You can't be too technical where blade steels are concerned. CPM 154 is better than CM 154/ATS34 because it has a smaller grain size and more uniform composition. The 154 stuff was not developed for knives. It was developed for stainless turbine blades for jet engines and had good strength and corrosion resistance at elevated temperatures. Bob Loveless pioneered the use of CM 154 for knife blades, and it was one of the better materials around at that time. CPM S30V was developed by Crucible Metals as a blade material with the help of Chris Reeve. It offers more wear resistance than CPM 154 because of the inclusion of Vanadium carbides in excess of 3%. Vanadium carbide is one of the hardest carbides soluble in steel coming in at about 82 HRC. BG-42 only has 2% Vanadium (the most that can be added by conventional smelting). The CPM process allows Vanadium levels as high as 12.5%. When you disperse small particles of VC throughout your blade, the wear resistance is greatly increased. It's like putting small hard stones in cement to increase its abrasion resistance even though hardness of the cement is not increased. I have both blades but prefer the S30V material.
 
tiguy7 said:
You can't be too technical where blade steels are concerned. CPM 154 is better than CM 154/ATS34 because it has a smaller grain size and more uniform composition. The 154 stuff was not developed for knives. It was developed for stainless turbine blades for jet engines and had good strength and corrosion resistance at elevated temperatures. Bob Loveless pioneered the use of CM 154 for knife blades, and it was one of the better materials around at that time. CPM S30V was developed by Crucible Metals as a blade material with the help of Chris Reeve. It offers more wear resistance than CPM 154 because of the inclusion of Vanadium carbides in excess of 3%. Vanadium carbide is one of the hardest carbides soluble in steel coming in at about 82 HRC. BG-42 only has 2% Vanadium (the most that can be added by conventional smelting). The CPM process allows Vanadium levels as high as 12.5%. When you disperse small particles of VC throughout your blade, the wear resistance is greatly increased. It's like putting small hard stones in cement to increase its abrasion resistance even though hardness of the cement is not increased. I have both blades but prefer the S30V material.
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Jeez, here we go again. If I was a metalugist, I'd care but I'm not. I just like knives.
 
tiguy7 said:
You can't be too technical where blade steels are concerned. CPM 154 is better than CM 154/ATS34 because it has a smaller grain size and more uniform composition. The 154 stuff was not developed for knives. It was developed for stainless turbine blades for jet engines and had good strength and corrosion resistance at elevated temperatures. Bob Loveless pioneered the use of CM 154 for knife blades, and it was one of the better materials around at that time. CPM S30V was developed by Crucible Metals as a blade material with the help of Chris Reeve. It offers more wear resistance than CPM 154 because of the inclusion of Vanadium carbides in excess of 3%. Vanadium carbide is one of the hardest carbides soluble in steel coming in at about 82 HRC. BG-42 only has 2% Vanadium (the most that can be added by conventional smelting). The CPM process allows Vanadium levels as high as 12.5%. When you disperse small particles of VC throughout your blade, the wear resistance is greatly increased. It's like putting small hard stones in cement to increase its abrasion resistance even though hardness of the cement is not increased. I have both blades but prefer the S30V material.
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That is as good an anology of Vanadium as I've heard to date. Thanks for your comments.

Plumberdv said:
Jeez, here we go again. If I was a metalugist, I'd care but I'm not. I just like knives.
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Dave we all already know your attracted to bright shiney baubles and how long they'll cut is secondary at best if important at all:p;):D
 
I'm appreciative of all the steel lore that gets shared around here.

If I hadn't heard a lot about steel here I wouldn't know what a great steel the plain old 420HC can be with the BOS heat treat.

I have great confidence in it.

The powdered steels......not so much (although I realize that may be due to my inability to visualize how a steel can be made into powder and then miraculously be made strong again).

:D
 
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