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Sounds like a new fashion... Some years ago it seemed that everybody had to cut nails with their knife which, if successful, demonstrates that hardened steel can cut mild steel... (oh, the wonder!) and if unsuccessful demonstrates that knives aren't made to cut nails (astonishing!). :jerkit:
Now there's batoning... that comes from "baton", french for "stick, club" and means "hitting with a stick".
I've looked up how "hitting with a knife" is written, and that's "knifing". I'm amazed beyond saying.
Bottom line: unskilled people getting disappointing results usually blame the tool.
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Sorry... it's been a long day... and is a sad sight that of a nice knife destroyed in such a foolish way. :foot:
I always hate to see this. The person whose knife is presented is a very well respected member here on the forums who frequents W&SS and contributes there widely. There is no need denigrate his character with with your sweeping generalizations. The individual did a great service to us by posting those pictures and outlining the conditions under which it failed.
The conditions under which the spyderco bushcrafter failed were an exception in that the knife performed so poorly relative to expectations. If batoning wood were actually hard on a knife, I can assure you that I would not have any knives left in my collection. Some people may not like what bushcraft activities involve, but batoning is so widely accepted throughout the field that batoning wood is hardly even considered a test of the strength of a knife anymore.
The spyderco bushcrafter is a blade that is marketed to the bushcraft audience. It was designed to support the kinds of activities that bushcrafters do, batoning being one of them. To suggest otherwise would be to suggest that spyderco ignores the wider bushcrafting audience and extensive internet forums of which W&SS of bladeforums is part of. I do not think this is the case. The decision to place the bushcrafter model in the seconds category was due to issues related to the poor stabilization of the scales, not anything to do with the catastrophic failure observed in the post. Most notably, many, many owners of the spyderco bushcrafter knife have reported no problems using their knives batoning. It could be, and very likely is, a fluke of something to do with that particular knife rather than a generality of the model. I'm not sure why everybody assumes the whole design to be flawed on the basis of a single knife failure. I've seen many, many failures of kabar USMC models and they aren't considered flawed in the least.
Perhaps Alarion likes to do things differently when he is outdoors and chooses not to baton knives. That is okay, but his attitude to insinuate that nobody else knows what they are doing is either ignorant or just immature. If he wants to educate us, then perhaps he should start posting in the wilderness part of the forums where his opinions can be debated and shared among those who truly use their blades in support of outdoor related activities.
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