Broken BK2

with EVERYTHING said at every possible angle..

the knife still BROKE!!!:D Which after using my knife to baton and chop some saplings today find that fat little chunk of steel extremely durable.. but yet regardless of how you 'cut' it, it will and is able to break given the right circumstances.

I still would like to know post #3.. see above, anyone?
 
moosez45 said:
Yes, I agree. I got a little obsessed there for a minute. I apologize to everyone.

Moose
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Ain't no thing, Mooser. What would life be without the odd obsession, here and there? Got a few m' own self (Beckers, redheaded women and good chow come readily to mind).:D
 
moosez45 said:
Yes, I agree. I got a little obsessed there for a minute. I apologize to everyone.

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bro, none needed.. you've had a 2 now for how many years?? you've tried to break it how many times??:D it just hits close to home you vent like anyone else, no biggie..

take care,
 
TheLastDaze said:
with EVERYTHING said at every possible angle..

the knife still BROKE!!!:D Which after using my knife to baton and chop some saplings today find that fat little chunk of steel extremely durable.. but yet regardless of how you 'cut' it, it will and is able to break given the right circumstances.

I still would like to know post #3.. see above, anyone?
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It was an owner using the knife for what he wanted to use it for. Not a destruction test or anything. Moose
 
While we're on the subject, I'd like to remind everyone that this is the first report that I've ever heard of a BK-2 breaking for any reason whatsoever. Think about that. Out of all the BK-2's sold in the last 25-30 years, this is the first one I've heard of breaking. Sure, people have dinged up the edges, but break the knife? Nope, this is a first for me.

I don't think I'll worry about using mine.
 
TheLastDaze said:
with EVERYTHING said at every possible angle..

the knife still BROKE!!!:D Which after using my knife to baton and chop some saplings today find that fat little chunk of steel extremely durable.. but yet regardless of how you 'cut' it, it will and is able to break given the right circumstances.

I still would like to know post #3.. see above, anyone?
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the owner threw it against a tree multiple times and broke it. it wasn't an official destructive test sanctioned by ka-bar. see the posts by "marsden" starting at #4 in this esee thread: http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=790623.
 
The amount of people on this forum that use the BK2, and have never had a problem with them is a testimony to the brute strength of this knife. Everthing will break. For $60 how can you go wrong.
 
JV3 said:
the owner threw it against a tree multiple times and broke it. it wasn't an official destructive test sanctioned by ka-bar. see the posts by "marsden" starting at #4 in this esee thread: http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=790623.
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i noticed nobody is talking about the knife throwing over there

marsden only had 4 posts so far...

it's disappointing that he got a replacement, but that's how nice Toooj and KaBar are i suppose.


Bladite
 
Well, that's it, guess it's time to sell my BK2. Any knife that can't be thrown 100 times and stand up to it isn't worth my time. I should be able to throw it at least 101 times. ;)

j/k of course.

Any and I mean any knife can break. Some knives too, like the BK2 get a rep as being indestructible and people can and will do very stupid things with them because of that rep.

Look at the regular old USMC Ka-Bar for example. A beautiful and great knife with a lot of history. I love mine. But it's that history and revered status that gets it broken a lot of times I think. I know the limitations of that knife and wouldn't abuse it. For what it is, it's quite tough, but don't baton with it or you will have issues. Use it as intended and a plain jane Ka-Bar will out live you for sure.

The BK2 though is indeed a tough knife and this isolated incident doesn't change anything. It was being used....repeatedly...in a fashion for which it was not intended. It'd be like using vice grips as a hammer....eventually you're going to have a problem.

It's about like that doofus who wears the hockey mask runs that Knifetests website. Guy really comes off as a jerk on his Youtube page and won't accept any criticism. He gets all of the knives to break... and of course he does. He's using them in a way most of us never would and for that matter would never have need to. So what do his so called "tests" prove? Basically that you can break just about anything...thanks for telling us what we already knew. :thumbup:
 
I've batonned tons of wood with my 1217, and yes I have broke them, but, they've split enough wood to fill a dump truck before they let go, I assure you. All 3 times, it was due to bad technique, and it was my fault, not the knife. But, it is a stick tang, albeit beefy. That 90 degree edge right there at the blade is a weak point. Damn good knife though. Moose
 
Why is it disappointing (Bladite) as noted earlier I had boughten a throwing knife, it broke. Bought the BK2 and after many hours of beating it, and not knowing fully about metals and hardness, softness trade offs it broke. I loved that knife and did not think it would break nor did I want it to. So as far as half of you that buy a knife and it sits pretty at least I took out my knife and enjoyed every single second of it. As far as my new one im still using the hell out of it but not throwing, also by getting a replacement it made me appreciate the company even more. I have studied up on steels and know not to throw it, so everyone can stop acting like I am a vigilante out to destroy knives.
 
marsden said:
Why is it disappointing (Bladite) as noted earlier I had boughten a throwing knife, it broke. Bought the BK2 and after many hours of beating it, and not knowing fully about metals and hardness, softness trade offs it broke. I loved that knife and did not think it would break nor did I want it to. So as far as half of you that buy a knife and it sits pretty at least I took out my knife and enjoyed every single second of it. As far as my new one im still using the hell out of it but not throwing, also by getting a replacement it made me appreciate the company even more. I have studied up on steels and know not to throw it, so everyone can stop acting like I am a vigilante out to destroy knives.
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Welcome to the Becker forum!!!

Around here, we pretty much use our knives to the hilt, LOL. Not too many safe queens in this crowd. I'm glad you learned something from your experiences with the BK2, its a great knife. Alot of us feel that improper use of your knife, resulting in breakage, and replacement, abuse the manufacturers.

I will formally apologize for my attitude, my assumption (I know, ass/me) was that you had a larger base of knowledge in the area of knives. Quite like ESEE and their "no questions asked", Kabar will take care of their customers, but when people abuse said policy, it makes life harder on all of us. It may not seem like it, but you are quite the anomoly. You are the first person in the 12yrs that I have know of Becker Knife and Tool to break a BK2.

This knife is known for it toughness under pressure and hard use, but even through abuse, its stood up to the task. Here in the hallowed halls of the Becker forums, its quite revered as a nie indestructable knife.

Welcome, read, learn, post, and have fun with the rest of us. We ARE glad you are here, I hope you stick around.

Moose
 
marsden said:
I have studied up on steels and know not to throw it, so everyone can stop acting like I am a vigilante out to destroy knives.
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I do not think you're being treated like a vigilante out to destroy knives, this is a simple topic of a great knife breaking.. end of story..

without taking anything out of context you live you learn, if you want to throw (all the time) then buy a knife specific to the task, sure you can throw any knife a couple times even if not designed to do so..

now if you were related to noss I do think your life would depend on destroying knives:D

it does show what a great company they are.. kudo's.. now run and tell everyone how badly you treated your knife and how great you were treated..

EDIT: I just read your post on ESEE forum, I think that was a blanket statement and you should have made yourself more clear as to not start an uproar.. Not a very credible statement on the internet..
 
moosez45 said:
I've batonned tons of wood with my 1217, and yes I have broke them, but, they've split enough wood to fill a dump truck before they let go, I assure you. All 3 times, it was due to bad technique, and it was my fault, not the knife. But, it is a stick tang, albeit beefy. That 90 degree edge right there at the blade is a weak point. Damn good knife though. Moose
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Yup, for sure. With the 1217 it's all about technique. You can baton with it, but eventually, it's probably not going to hold up to the abuse. Awesome knives though. I love all my "old school" Ka-Bar's. I've got several variants of the 1217 and will never part with them, very very useful knives I've found. Just such a beautiful and simple design.
 
well, a Tac Tool has been broken. once that i know of. took some effort. being used for what it was designed for. it involved prison doors and gorillas :>

it's not surprise that a Campanion was broken, but at least we know that the method was trivial abuse, and not through normal use. maybe someone will break one with batoning, but considering all the decades, it's rare. just chalk this one up to destructive testing, and move on. it's not representative

other models have been broken in different ways as well, and some others are still waiting their big break, as it were. stuff can break when used hard. stuff definitely breaks when abused. so go use your stuff :)


Bladite
 
marsden said:
Why is it disappointing (Bladite) as noted earlier I had boughten a throwing knife, it broke. Bought the BK2 and after many hours of beating it, and not knowing fully about metals and hardness, softness trade offs it broke. I loved that knife and did not think it would break nor did I want it to. So as far as half of you that buy a knife and it sits pretty at least I took out my knife and enjoyed every single second of it. As far as my new one im still using the hell out of it but not throwing, also by getting a replacement it made me appreciate the company even more. I have studied up on steels and know not to throw it, so everyone can stop acting like I am a vigilante out to destroy knives.
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Hi, marsden, and welcome to the Becker forum.

I think everyone realizes now that you didn't intentionally break your BK-2, it's just that many of us were shocked that you did break it. We all know that it's possible to break anything, but I think a lot of us thought, subconsciously, perhaps, that the BK-2 was the exception.:D

Obviously, it wasn't. I personally didn't think it could be done, but you managed . . . and you weren't even trying.;)

If it makes you feel any better, you made history: the first person known to have broken a BK-2.

Again, welcome to Beckerland! Enjoy . . . there's a good crowd over here!
 
I'm glad KA-BAR replaced the knife. They are welcome to make exceptions to their own warranty as they see fit. It wasn't my knife, and it ain't my money. They likely don't replace many, if any of their USMC knives that undoubtedly thousands of people have thrown, and dozens, if not hundreds have broken. With a knife like the BK2, I'm sure Tooj was really interested to "study" the knife and see what happened (although it sounds like the physics involved are well known and understood to those smarter than myself).

I don't know what the whole story was or how KA-BAR was approached, but if someone is honest with what they did to the knife, sends it back to them at his own expense and understands the one-time-exception-ness of the replacement, then I say good for KA-BAR. If the abuser was a jerk about it, demanded a replacement and failed to take ownership of his mistake, then I would hope KA-BAR would tell him to pound sand.

Tooj, Ethan and KA-BAR ain't no dummies. They're not going to let themselves be taken advantage of. It sounds like they were just being themselves and were really nice even when they could have easily gone the other way.

God, I love KA-BAR.
 
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