Broken BK2

ok, here is a picture. It looks like it's for the BK2 but it looks different than other sheaths I've seen for the BK2.

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back of the sheath. There isn't that plastic thing with two holes (whatever thats for) at the top of the nylon. All there is is two straps with buttons on the main side that won't fit around the knife handle.

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JV3 said:
you should be a gold member by now...hmm. did you update your status via the user control panel -> group memberships thingy to identify yourself as a gold member? i'll contact spark after the holidays just to make sure he applied the gold membership to you instead of extending my existing one.
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you don't have to be gold to post links to a photo hosting site

but if he's "got gold" then by all means he should display it :)
 
wmc1982 said:
back of the sheath. There isn't that plastic thing with two holes (whatever thats for) at the top of the nylon. All there is is two straps with buttons on the main side that won't fit around the knife handle.
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looks exactly like my gen 2 sheath

two straps? do you mean one piece with a rivet/pivot in the middle?

i've noticed some of the straps are pretty tight... try forcing it and leaving it around the handle a few days

"plastic thing"? two slots? that would be an extension for adding a different kind of carry - webbing would go into the buckle, letting it effectively be longer. don't know many people who use that at all. probably why they took it off.
 
Bladite said:
looks exactly like my gen 2 sheath

two straps? do you mean one piece with a rivet/pivot in the middle?

i've noticed some of the straps are pretty tight... try forcing it and leaving it around the handle a few days

"plastic thing"? two slots? that would be an extension for adding a different kind of carry - webbing would go into the buckle, letting it effectively be longer. don't know many people who use that at all. probably why they took it off.
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Ok thanks, so it's a gen 2. That makes sense. I was looking at many gen 1 pictures and thats what I noticed.

And yea, I wouldn't have used that plastic extension anyway, and it looks like they tightened the lock up because I've heard gen 1 users complain about it falling out or being loose. Well it's very tight now, thats for sure. Probably will be perfect in time.

I'll try that with the strap. I'm sure there could also be some way to cut it and re stitch it to be a little longer. I takes about a minute to pull each side and twist everything around to get it strapped in. But I might just cut them off anyway since the main lock up is so tight. You really don't need the handle strap buckle.

Thanks for the info
 
wmc1982 said:
Does anyone's sheath come to a point at the end? My BK2 is having problems still getting in and out, and I just noticed that the handle button strap doesn't even fit around the handle.

And my sheath looks different than all the pictures, the form doesn't square off, it comes to a point.

I contacted Ka-Bar, waiting for a response. But I just can't think of what other Becker knife it could be? It's the same length, but a smaller handle and a possibly different pointed tip.
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If you post pictures Id like to compare to mine. My handle strap wouldnt close either. I didn't care much because I had moose make me a leather sheath but I always wondered what was up with that.
 
shinank said:
If you post pictures Id like to compare to mine. My handle strap wouldnt close either. I didn't care much because I had moose make me a leather sheath but I always wondered what was up with that.
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I can try to borrow another camera later. Yea I guess in the two I took above I didn't show the strap. But where they pinned in the strap button, it should have been a little bit farther up the strap, thats all. One button is at the end of a strap so it can't be moved, the other has room to add or subtract. But I'm sure there is a tool to put those on and I don't know how to remove them.

I'll just carry the whole thing in my pocket since it will fit or in my pack if I'm going somewhere. I don't really carry things on my belt anyway. Just for storage I like to have things neat, I've been labeled "ocd" among other things :P
 
That sounds like the exact same issue I had. Of all the complaints I read about the sheath. I thought I was the only one with a retention strap that was too short. Good to know I wasn't the only one.
 
where are the pics of this broken BK2? :D

Moose. understand the love hate thing that we have going on...but i cant help it.

this shows that beckers are beckers..not ESEE's

0o0o0o0o0o0o0o...did i just say that? About the unthinkable? A broken BK2!?!?!
 
Gaurdian_A1 said:
this shows that beckers are beckers..not ESEE's
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Isn't that like comparing apples and oranges? You are not going to beat a Becker at its price point. If ESEE's was going to make some knifes in the $30-$60 price range they would be the same quality I bet.
 
I had some problems with my retention strap as well, but after time it loosened up. It is still snug, which is fine by me, but can be closed with one hand. Took a lot more effort at first though.
 
Widerstand said:
Isn't that like comparing apples and oranges? You are not going to beat a Becker at its price point. If ESEE's was going to make some knifes in the $30-$60 price range they would be the same quality I bet.
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ain't nothing wrong with the quality.

both companies use 1095 with the best heat treats in the industry
 
DerekH said:
I had some problems with my retention strap as well, but after time it loosened up. It is still snug, which is fine by me, but can be closed with one hand. Took a lot more effort at first though.
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Yes, thats how mine has been. Like someone else earlier suggested, I've been leaving the strap closed when I store the knife and it's slowly getting a bit easier to close. I hope the sheath will loosen up as well as I use it more.

Like I said, for the price I paid I'm happy to have just the knife. I can take the back part off and just have the kydex cover, as usually I just put the BK2 in my pocket. And if I want to upgrade to micarta I can when I have the money.

I think a BK2 with micarta handles given the additional cost still beats an equal length ESSE. It's so thick and heavy I love it.
 
Gaurdian_A1 said:
where are the pics of this broken BK2? :D

Moose. understand the love hate thing that we have going on...but i cant help it.

this shows that beckers are beckers..not ESEE's

0o0o0o0o0o0o0o...did i just say that? About the unthinkable? A broken BK2!?!?!
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Start tossin' your ESEE5 into a tree, and post some pics when it breaks. Its not a matter of if, its a matter of when. Hard tempered knives don't like the impact of being thrown. It would be a pride ding, if he had been batoning wood or something, but throwing a hard tempered knife takes it out of realm of abuse, and into Noss type destructo tests. Don't believe me, ask Jeff, Mike, or Shon. :D:thumbup:

Moose
 
I might be way off here since I have never thrown a knife an I don't know a whole ton about different types of steel but it seems like to me that the forces involved in throwing a knife would in a lot of ways be the same forces put on the blade from baton spiting hardwood and hitting the knife with a hardwood baton.

Any thoughts on this?
 
Widerstand said:
I might be way off here since I have never thrown a knife an I don't know a whole ton about different types of steel but it seems like to me that the forces involved in throwing a knife would in a lot of ways be the same forces put on the blade from baton spiting hardwood and hitting the knife with a hardwood baton.

Any thoughts on this?
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Not so much, it has to do with harmonic vibration. When a hard tempered steel blade impacts, it allows vibrations to pass along the blade, creating micro fractures in the steel. Throwing knifes are tempered to around 52-55Rc, basically softer, whick allows the metal to flex with the vibrations without the micro fractures. If you check the first page of the thread, there is more detail laid out about the effects of being thrown.

Moose
 
Widerstand said:
I might be way off here since I have never thrown a knife an I don't know a whole ton about different types of steel but it seems like to me that the forces involved in throwing a knife would in a lot of ways be the same forces put on the blade from baton spiting hardwood and hitting the knife with a hardwood baton.

Any thoughts on this?
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It's a transfer of energy thing. when you baton a knife your hand and arm absorb the energy (vibration) through the knife. When your hand is not there to absorb the energy (as with throwing the knife) it gets deflected back through the knife causing it to vibrate and flex extremely fast while the energy dissipates, with hardened steel this creates micro fractures which over time turn into not so micro fractures until eventually your knife breaks. :thumbup:
 
Widerstand said:
I might be way off here since I have never thrown a knife an I don't know a whole ton about different types of steel but it seems like to me that the forces involved in throwing a knife would in a lot of ways be the same forces put on the blade from baton spiting hardwood and hitting the knife with a hardwood baton.

Any thoughts on this?
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an anchored knife in wood, being smacked with a baton is fairly inert, the wood absorbs most of the energy quickly. it's like a bell that's in water. doesn't ring well.

as opposed to say, chucking a bell at a wall. that bell is going to hit, and rebound. lots of elastic forces come into play. that bell is going to RING, if it doesn't crack/split. there's nothing absorbing the energy, so the bell gets a large portion thrown back into it, typically over a very small area. boom.
 
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