Brut-de-Forge Chopper

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This is one of the larger viewable-on-the-net 24/7 dedicated knife forums on the planet. If you want to proudly display knives for everyone to see that look like this...great....it is absolutely encouraged..but so is feedback, and if it is all of the "you are so great, that knife is great"...it isn't really valuable.

Generally, it has been held that since we have both the Knifemaker's area, and the Gallery, pieces displayed here by the maker were open for critique...which has been provided, and any maker who listens to other makers for business advice deserves the results.....critique and feedback should come from fellow makers certainly, but many of them are not collectors. It is the collectors and dealers that can offer some of the most valuable feedback.

That's "why" Pap11y...it is necessary, and this thread just absolutely proves it. It's a knifemaking "business", while each customer is certainly important, the next customer and the one after that are "more" important.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
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It DOES look like it would be a VERY effective chopper. The ricasso looks as it would keep ones hand from sliding onto the cutting edge (assuming it is not sharp, can't tell for sure).

"Brut de forge" is not one of my favorite finishes, but usually, the forging marks are more consistent and away from the edge. Aesthetically, to me, on this blade, the forging marks detract from the overall look. Especially that one cloud like one near the edge, towards the front of the blade.

Peter
 
[STeven]

Why, just why?

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Lol! Ya know, this is one part honest truth, one part overarching rudeness, and two parts internet forums.

It's kinda like this knife: An acquired taste.

I applaud the workmanship, don't care for the combi, and simply wished for a 'count to ten' before seeing STeven hitting 'send'.

But that wouldn't be true to himself. Like it or don't. You can't change the whole world. Just yourself.

Coop
 
I think the key thing is fairness. If a maker posts, comment intellectly and honestly. let him take away something he can improve on.
 
David Stifle said:
I think the key thing is fairness. If a maker posts, comment intellectly and honestly. let him take away something he can improve on.
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Sometimes there is so much bile that I am fighting back that it just spills out on the keyboard.

While not entirely fair to the maker...he chose to post this piece....is it overarchingly rude?....maybe.....couldn't help it, Coop....I waited 24 minutes before hitting send....and pared my response down to the minimum, with what I had hoped to be a slightly humorous comment.

I realize that someone made this knife, labored over it, and someone purchased it with hard earned cash, and as I just commented to Les Robertson, sometimes wonder why any of us bother.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
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Hi Allen,

I prefer the bottom one. Personally I would like to see a scotchbrite finish or something along those line (no brute de forge) and a single guard (even if it was integral). The nice part about the orange is that it will help find the knife if lost in the field...unless there are a lot of Oak leaves on the ground.
 
Looks like it'd work, but the forge mark near the blade edge doesn't suit my fancy.
I like the G-10 look though.:)
 
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I generally do not care for the "forged finish" look, myself.. Some examples appeal more than others.
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Hi Allen,

I prefer the bottom one. Personally I would like to see a scotchbrite finish or something along those line (no brute de forge) and a single guard (even if it was integral). The nice part about the orange is that it will help find the knife if lost in the field...unless there are a lot of Oak leaves on the ground.
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Have to agree with this. I love brut de forge but not the forged Keeslar-style guards. Allen makes a very fine knife, and I'm sure he'll take the bad with the good feedback. Seems like there's plenty of folks who enjoy this knife, let sTeven prod a little for Gosh's sakes.
 
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I will keep my comments on topic.

Nice knife. It is something I would spend my own money on.

I like forged finish knives.

I like micarta and G10 handles.

I have come to enjoy a forged guard (both integral brute de forge, and integral guards forged and then filed/ground to final shape). I used to dislike the "squished" guard as I used to call these, but now appreciate them.

Now it just needs a sheath, and some happy owner will be killing wood in no time.
 
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Personally I like the knife. The handle material looks a little off in my opinion, I would have preferred something wood, maybe Curly Maple (What can I say? I'm a sucker for curly maple).
 
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been awhile since we had one of these. Everyone ok? :)
 
I'll stick my nose in to this thread. The knife looks to be very well made and has a very unique aesthetic that apparently appealed to the buyer. Beyond that;

[video=youtube;Wui-PNqJrxs]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wui-PNqJrxs[/video]

Saw this movie at an impressionable young age and this has stuck with me (most times) ever since.

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Why, just why?

I'm sure it handles very, very nice, and does it's job well, but it is exceedingly unappealing aesthetically....or....so ugly it's cute, but not really?

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
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I'll stick my nose in to this thread. The knife looks to be very well made and has a very unique aesthetic that apparently appealed to the buyer.
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Here's for your nose.....if you don't understand the business concept of looking forward to the next buyer, then you don't understand business.

This knife that Allen posted...that's advertising..."Hey, look at my knife that I made for a customer, don't you want one yourself"? That is the dynamic that EVERY maker should think about when they post a knife up here....it's targeted...to a specific group of buyers, who also reside on these Forums. It matters that you can sell one knife to one buyer, but the smart maker is thinking about his next ten knives for sale to ten(or less) more buyers.

This knife did not represent a product that I found appealing, so as an active consumer, I presented that information, perhaps less than fairly, but it was a lesson learned and it didn't cost anything....no mockery was made....a "cute" comment was proffered and rejected by the masses, but I'm still not sure how many who piped are actually buyers.

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Beyond that;

Saw this movie at an impressionable young age and this has stuck with me (most times) ever since.
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You ever hunt? If you did, that movie didn't make as much of an impression as you think, huh?

I tend to get my lessons from people that know something about something, not cartoon rabbits created and drawn to elicit lasting impressions on small children.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
 
Kohai999 said:
blah, blah, blah, blah.......etc., etc., etc..

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
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:yawn:

Ummm, yeah...

Anyway back to the topic - cool chopper Allen! Looks like it could take down a small tree very efficiently.

Great work! I love the rustic look of blades with the forge marks left on the flats.
 
Wow, you are certainly full of yourself, aren't you. Substantive criticism is one thing, but you initial post is anything but.

You seem to forget the saying in business: "The customer is always right." Meeting the customers needs and desires is paramount in running a successful business, at least from my limited experience.

Kohai999 said:
Here's for your nose.....if you don't understand the business concept of looking forward to the next buyer, then you don't understand business.

This knife that Allen posted...that's advertising..."Hey, look at my knife that I made for a customer, don't you want one yourself"? That is the dynamic that EVERY maker should think about when they post a knife up here....it's targeted...to a specific group of buyers, who also reside on these Forums. It matters that you can sell one knife to one buyer, but the smart maker is thinking about his next ten knives for sale to ten(or less) more buyers.

This knife did not represent a product that I found appealing, so as an active consumer, I presented that information, perhaps less than fairly, but it was a lesson learned and it didn't cost anything....no mockery was made....a "cute" comment was proffered and rejected by the masses, but I'm still not sure how many who piped are actually buyers.



You ever hunt? If you did, that movie didn't make as much of an impression as you think, huh?

I tend to get my lessons from people that know something about something, not cartoon rabbits created and drawn to elicit lasting impressions on small children.

Best Regards,

STeven Garsson
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The example cited from the movie has nothing to do with hunting, but much to do with respectful interaction with others. And yes, I've hunted and fished and eaten what I've killed.
 
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