Buck 560!

chickentrax · Feb 13, 2006

pjsjr said:
I would have thought that you would have had to have a bandsaw to get cuts like that...

I have the Milwaukee power hacksaw mounted vertically to a plate clamped in my vise...it works just like a bandsaw...but the grooves were done with a holesaw...all just roughed out for now; waiting for the SHCS's to come in...I'll start a thread when it's near done... :thumbup:

pjsjr · Feb 13, 2006

chickentrax said:
waiting for the SHCS's to come in...

Alright, Trax, I give WTF's SHCS...Should Have C...something

. Preston

chickentrax · Feb 14, 2006

Socket Head Cap Screws

I ordered #4-40 and #5-40; I hope to use the #5-40...

pjsjr · Feb 14, 2006

chickentrax said:
Socket Head Cap Screws I ordered #4-40 and #5-40; I hope to use the #5-40...

Thanks

, you know, I was expecting something a bit more witty and creative...must of spent a good 30 minutes trying to come up with a clever decipher of SHCS

. Preston

chickentrax · Feb 14, 2006

pjsjr said:
...I was expecting something a bit more witty and creative...

Sorry to disappoint you...

Somewhere in this thread, we were discussing the 560 rivets vs 186 screws...I've gotten a chance to look at a 560 [thanks to yam!] and I think it's possible to replace the rivets with 1/8" studs & #5-56 flat head screws...Like I see in the Texas Knifemakers Supply catalog...

chickentrax · Feb 14, 2006

Preston - Here's my "bandsaw"...I borrowed it from Rube Goldberg!!!

pjsjr · Feb 14, 2006

chickentrax said:
my "bandsaw"...I borrowed it from Rube Goldberg!!!

Trax...I fear for your life

, do be careful, that contraption looks like it could come right out of there are get you good.

When you say 1/8" studs, that's diameter? What about length? Do they come tapped for the 5-56 flat head screws and you just cut them off?

Thanks for sharing. Preston

chickentrax · Feb 14, 2006

pjsjr said:
When you say 1/8" studs, that's diameter? What about length? Do they come tapped for the 5-56 flat head screws and you just cut them off?

http://www.knifekits.com/store/s-pages/kk_store_1mainframe.htm?kk_products_parts_ppas-main.htm~smain

110 Dave · Feb 14, 2006

never mind

pjsjr · Feb 14, 2006

Thanks, Trax. Preston

chickentrax · Feb 14, 2006

pjsjr said:
Thanks, Trax. Preston

Hold on! I had to run downstairs and measure one...

They're .415" long; the head dia is .140" and is .070" long...a button head cap screw has a .162" dia head...

I measure a 560 as .440" overall, but the rivet depressions are recessed...can't tell how much...

I think it might be possible...but a #5-56 is about the dia of a flat toothpick...is that going to be strong enough??? Say, if you drop it???

And will the 560 hole be exactly .125" or bigger??? (my 110 holes run ~.130")...

pjsjr · Feb 14, 2006

chickentrax said:
Hold on! I had to run downstairs and measure one...

They're .415" long; the head dia is .140" and is .070" long...a button head cap screw has a .162" dia head...

I measure a 560 as .440" overall, but the rivet depressions are recessed...can't tell how much...

I think it might be possible...but a #5-56 is about the dia of a flat toothpick...is that going to be strong enough??? Say, if you drop it???

And will the 560 hole be exactly .125" or bigger??? (my 110 holes run ~.130")...

Trax, I feel as though I have taken enough of your time

THANK YOU, SO MUCH.

My bet is that they would be the same size as a 110...the 5-56 seem small to me. Especially for the pivot, Knifekits say that they are hardened so they might be strong enough. I really don't have enough knowledge to make a SWAG.

I told you about my neighbor...I'll bug him...it will pay him back for his GD barking dogs

. He just might get interested in it and say "let me see what I can find out" in which case I'll tell him how nice and good looking and well behaved is dogs are. On the other hand if he blows me off, I can tell him what I really think of the dogs, save my sheckels and send the knife to Leroy.

With that said...you go back to work on your knife...I'll wait and see what you come up with and hopefully restrain myself from asking more questions. Preston

chickentrax · Feb 14, 2006

pjsjr said:
Trax, I feel as though I have taken enough of your time... and hopefully restrain myself from asking more questions. Preston

I don't mind...Just trying to examine all options...

I'm wondering now if there's enough room for a 6-32 in there...

pjsjr · Feb 14, 2006

chickentrax said:
I'm wondering now if there's enough room for a 6-32 in there...

With that there holesaw I bet there would be

Thanks again. Preston

chickentrax · Feb 15, 2006

pjsjr said:
With that there holesaw I bet there would be

...???...

The holesaw was to rough out the finger grooves...

I meant room in the rockerbar for the 6-32 SHCS...I measure a 6-32 as being ~.133", and the rockerbar hole is ~.125...the 6-32 will go through the blade bushing without alteration; there is enough meat on the rockerbar to open it up to .133"...so in theory, we have a size that will work...but the rivet hole is ~.125"...so one scale would have to be bushed down to .101" (the hole size for 6-32) somehow...

Or a 6-32 nutsert pressed in...

Hmmmm...

pjsjr · Feb 15, 2006

chickentrax said:
...???...

The holesaw was to rough out the finger grooves...

Trax, I was just teasing about the holesaw

...

Now, when you talk size, like 6-32...6 is the shaft dia. and 32 is the thread size...right???? The nutsert is like a bolt except that it is pressed into the frame opposite the 6-32 SHCS. The rocker would then ride on the threads if I'm following you? Or, is it like in the pic from KK.com? Preston

Buckaholic · Feb 15, 2006

pjsjr said:
Trax, I was just teasing about the holesaw...

Ah Hell!!! I thought you guys were trading ColesLaw recipes

I'm obviously on the wrong forum...
Goose.
BCCI 1190

pjsjr · Feb 15, 2006

Buckaholic said:
I'm obviously on the wrong forum...
Goose.
BCCI 1190

Goose, you'd never be on the wrong forum

. Preston

chickentrax · Feb 15, 2006

pjsjr said:
Or, is it like in the pic from KK.com?

What's KK.com???

Any-way...It would be a #6 SHCS, 32 threads per inch. The Nutsert looks like a pop-rivet but it's internally threaded...for 6-32...it has a flange on one end...so the scale half would be drilled out to the OD of the Nutsert, the Nutsert pressed in and trimmed, and the knife reassembled with SHCS's...like the 186...The flange would sit in the depression in the scale where the rivet was...

Hopefully, we could find SS SHCS's...with a ~5/16" long shoulder...and steel Nutserts [SS preferably]...

It's do-able. I actually have several boxes of Nutserts here, but the smallest I have is 8-32...too big... :grumpy:

I'll have to look around...see what's available...

The big advantage of using SHCS's is that you can change blades & rockerbars...put in a drop-point 426 blade, or one of the older 440C long-chamfer blades...

pjsjr · Feb 15, 2006

chickentrax said:
What's KK.com???

The big advantage of using SHCS's is that you can change blades & rockerbars...put in a drop-point 426 blade, or one of the older 440C long-chamfer blades...

Trax, KK.com = knifekits.com. the pic that you showed me what a pivot pin looked like.

Other blades

, boy, I'm liking this work of yours. Preston