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I run a logistics warehouse for imports/exports. I deal with a lot of purchase orders. Maybe it wasn't 2500, but it was clearly more than a couple hundred if a purchase order was drawn up and signed by a navy LT.......clearly enough proof that there was a purchase by the US Navy over 30 years ago......
 
Thats because you are ILOGICAL and honestly I dont care what you think!

Im the EXPERT here ask Joe Houser

2500 for SEALs June 20th 1985 ( you keep putting wrong info of 86/87 Vman)

That wrong info came from you (the EXPERT).

You posted it on this forum.
 
I run a logistics warehouse for imports/exports. I deal with a lot of purchase orders. Maybe it wasn't 2500, but it was clearly more than a couple hundred if a purchase order was drawn up and signed by a navy LT.......clearly enough proof that there was a purchase by the US Navy over 30 years ago......

I'm sure there were lots of purchases by the U.S. Navy over 30 years ago.

That's all the fragment shows......that there was a purchase (of something).
 
I'm sure there were lots of purchases by the U.S. Navy over 30 years ago.

That's all the fragment shows......that there was a purchase (of something).
that OF SOMETHING states
"THIS package includes a grappling hook,aluminum,wood and bone saw,rope saw,compass, waterproof storage compartment and knife blade"

Im done explaining anything..

Im going to cut firewood .

Enjoy these some never shown to the public photos in this thread,


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Ok, enough name calling for today. Rich you may be mad but its best to be calm. I said the same to VP and others. I am expecting decent discussion from this point onward.

As a 28 year Federal Wildlife Officer, Firearms instructor, Warranted Purchasing Officer and office supervisor it is my "opinion" that the point that a copy of a Purchase Order or Receipt to a Military Unit needs to be shown for the claim that 2500 Buckmasters were ordered by the government is invalid. These orders could be easily placed thru a third party storefront set up to hide the actions of special units. Especially in the 'spook' world of special action units of the period and even more so now. Purchasing paperwork went thru many changes from the early 70's to the 2000's. You would be amazed how slight the requirements were in the regular government to purchase most items. I myself have ordered firearms via the mail with only my signature as proof in the initial purchase, but yes it was on a typed government order form. Documents did follow up with approvals before payment was received by the vendor. Guns were shipped U.S mail with my signature required by the rural mail carrier to hand me the box. So it is my opinion that Rich can claim they were ordered by the use of secondary information when several sources are listed. The burden of proof lies with Buck, as government documents are not available to everyone without legal search intervention (Freedom of Information steps) perhaps even the use of a lawyer. I have no knowledge if that was attempted. But, VP is allowed to state on the forum he feels he needs to see a historical finance document to satisfy his retraction of disagreement of the purchase. Secondary information that is accepted by many as adequate proof, is apparently unacceptable to VP. It is his right to disagree and state his belief here. This is a forum and counterpoint beliefs can be stated on all issues. Attacking a person with a different opinion by catcalls and name calling from either point of view lessens that persons creditability and will not be tolerated.
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Rich came to this forum to inform us that he finished his book and that it will be available in a week and he gets spit in the face by one of our regular trouble makers.

What the heck are you thinking vorpal? I wouldn't blame him if he never logged onto bladeforums again. None of us here should put up with this.

In the future when a new member asks a question on the 188 and 184 and we tell him to do a search to find out for himself and this is the thread he pulls up what do you think will be his thoughts?

When you spit in the face of the most informed individual we have ever had on this forum on the 184 and 188 how welcoming that must be to him or the other top people on Buck knives and how are they supposed to feel
about coming here to comment and interact with us.

Well I will say it. VorpalRain - Your way of interacting on this forum is not acceptable and I am sure I speak for everyone else but you on this forum when I apologize to Rich on how he was treated.
 
that OF SOMETHING states
"THIS package includes a grappling hook,aluminum,wood and bone saw,rope saw,compass, waterproof storage compartment and knife blade"

Im done explaining anything..

You never started. Your information is laughable.

Your fragment of a purchase order says nothing about a knife......it says "a concept."

It says the "concept" is estimated to weigh 16 ounces.....estimated.....so it obviously hasn't even been put together.

We know the Buckmaster was at least 9 ounces heavier than that.

This is obviously not a purchase order for 2500 knives.

It says nothing about the Navy or Buck.

It says "not valid unless signed by buyer" and there's no signature by the buyer.

Nobody bought or sold any knife with this document.

How about getting serious and giving us some real information IF you have it?
 
I've seen enough corroborating evidence including documents from a time when little more than typewriter, paper and manila folders ruled the day plus signatures and letters from highly respected military sources who would surely rebut a single false statement let alone an entire book of false statements. I've seen enough evidence to feel comfortable with what has been said. I have seen no evidence whatsoever from the other side to the contrary. Not one single piece of evidence that what was said is false.
 
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