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Discussion in 'Buck Knives' started by David Martin, Jan 30, 2020.
This morning's hunt. Andy retrieved the rooster and my black dog the hen. DM
Thanks gents. For an accurate description of the photo, I was not holding my dog up for the photo. I was holding him the other way. So,
he couldn't grab a bird. DM
That shows a strong desire to retrieve and is a good thing.
I remember trying to take this photo and having to get forceful with Dutch. There were birds in the back of the truck and he would retrieve them again and again if I'd let him.
pj, a good photo. I'm wondering, with the super magnum do you have to shoot heavy field loads in order to help the action cycle? DM
Yes, I do, David. I was shooting flyers for training last year and was given some shot shells that were either 7/8 or one ounce loads and my Benelli SB II would not cycle. Lightest I go with it is the 1 1/8 ounce loads. I understand that there are different recoil springs that are available for it, but I'm not gong to change. It is very comfortable shooting now.
Yes, different resistance springs, for different loads. Thus, you have to change them out between the different loads or shells. I have not changed those springs so, I don't know how much of a pain it is. But my A5 is similar. You have to change some O-rings around for different
loads. If you have it set up for light loads then don't spot some mallards to go after. Thus, I set mine up for heavy loads and left it. I shoot 1 oz.
loads of #8 for dove and quail and as long as I load them to 1200 fps. I have no cycling problems. Thanks for the info.. DM
The difference David is that your Auto-5 was designed with two settings on the friction rings for regulating the ejection of spent shells and are simple for the owner to change. On an inertia shotgun the spring Preston is referring to is the recoil spring in the recoil spring housing (tube) in the shotguns butt. After six years of shooting my Benelli M2 developed slow bolt return and faulty ejection due to fatigue in the original recoil spring (it was shot a lot with 3” waterfowl and other magnum loads). I replaced the fatigued factory recoil spring with the Wolfe 25% extra heavy recoil spring, still works with 2-3/4” promo loads but they must be 1-1/8 oz loads and occasionally it won’t eject one. However, it works splendidly with 2-3/4” high brass short magnums (i.e., pheasant loads) and with 3” magnum shells - both steel waterfowl and Hevi-Shot turkey, which is what I own the gun for. OH
Yep, Hunter 'friction rings'. It's pretty innovative to have these features on shotguns. I always shoot a full choke and when I use the 1 1/8 oz.
Handicap loads w/ 7 1/2 shot it mauls the birds. I've observed a 2 pellet hit on doves and 3 pellets on quail is all that's needed. If you just break a wing on dove and have a dog, you can usually put him in the sack. But quail not so. As they will run and find a hole. My little black dog
is good at digging them out. My enjoyment of a day afield, watching them work. Buck's large Trapper makes quick work of the cleaning at the
end of a day. And quail make a very fine meal. DM
Here I had the SBE II apart, we fell into a slough and it was completely submerged in muck! You can see the recoil spring in the lower right lying just to the right of the barrel. The housing, OH mentions, is the tube at the end of the receiver.
Not to hijack the thread away from the shotgun discussion but...
I wonder why this knife wasn't used as the pattern for the Buck 334.
Camillus 716, a double lock back Jumbo Trapper (came in Dura stag
and smooth yellow delrin, the "Yello Jaket"). Same blades as the 334.
I for one would have snapped up any Buck offering with the double
lock back feature.
I've looked in all the 334 threads I can find and this knife is never
mentioned. I see the Remington Bullet and all the different Camillus
specials but never this one. Wonder why?
Bruce, I'd snap a 716 up real quick if I ran onto one. I've always thought that one had great features. They show lots of pictures of that model over in the Camillus forum. Up at the top of this
page use the search feature and type in 'Camillus 716' and topics will come up for it. DM
Bruce, thanks for posting these good photos of your model 716. I like the black delrin and jigged bone but I would quickly accept yellow delrin or any handle material on a 716. Even without it's original box, just to get one. The lock engagements / thumb depressants are staggered for
a good reason. If placed side by side they become somewhat awkward to use. A well thought out model. DM
I really like the thread David .Please keep it going.
Sorry for the thread drift, but how do you like that Impact? Holding up well?
Yes I do, it’s been my every day carry for two years, it fires as hard as it did the first day, hasn't been subjected to hard use. It shows some wear on the body. Here it is with a Buck 334 Large Trapper for thread content, so we don't drift to far
Cool thread David , speaking of gun shows when is the next one in Las Cruces and will you have the Buck exhibit ?
skyhorse, Thanks. My next Gun Show is this weekend in Las Cruces. I will be flying the Buck Collectors banner and displaying my collection of
early Buck knives & products from 1962- 1982. Hope to see you there. DM
pjsjr, thanks for the photo of your model 334. DM