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Bush Waki Project

Discussion in 'The Huntsman Knife Company' started by Huntsman Knife Co., Jan 24, 2017.

  1. Huntsman Knife Co.

    Huntsman Knife Co. KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Sep 10, 2010
    I still have lots of blanks in my shop and a big CNC run of machetes to complete this spring but here is what I want to do over the summer.

    This is a project I've been dreaming about since I first started making knives-- Make the ultimate bush sword. Cut no corners, spare no expense. Make it completely functional with some aesthetic flairs. Make heavy hitter that can take abuse while still being quick in hand and feel like a sword.

    Here is the design I've come up with. Wakizashi inspired style. Full tang, terotuf or cord wrapped neoprene scales. 21inch blade, 31 inches overall. I may end up shortening the handle a bit but I'm pretty set on the blade length and shape. Shooting for a fuller but Ill have to see if I can find a machine shop willing to take on the work. Steel will be ~.250 S7 or 3V.

    Let me know what you guys think.

    Machete for Scale

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    Last edited: Oct 24, 2017
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  2. Mink

    Mink Gold Member Gold Member

    Apr 2, 2012
    Wow, very nice. Excited to see the finished product.
     
  3. AntCaps

    AntCaps Gold Member Gold Member

    870
    May 6, 2009
    Looks awesome have you thought about a guard of sorts?
     
  4. Huntsman Knife Co.

    Huntsman Knife Co. KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Sep 10, 2010
    Yes I am mocking up a version with a traditional guard and cord wrapped handle. I'll post it when I'm done.
     
  5. scrappy

    scrappy Gold Member Gold Member

    840
    Jul 7, 2007
    S7 and cpm3v seem very different. Both tuff but 3v with much better edge retention I would assume. Why these stills instead of 52100?
     
  6. fishface5

    fishface5 Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 3, 2001
    I like it lots but that thickness seems like it would be pretty heavy? I think of a Waki as being nimble . . .
     
  7. Currawong

    Currawong Gold Member Gold Member

    719
    May 19, 2012
    This looks fantastic. I look forward to seeing how they turn out.
     
  8. Huntsman Knife Co.

    Huntsman Knife Co. KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Sep 10, 2010
    3V is a great steel for hard use and it can take a really thin edge and hold it but I sometimes worry about 3V in thin cross sections. In the destruction testing I have done in smaller blades, 3V will violently snap when it reaches its elastic limit in flexion. While I have not personally tested s7 to destruction, it is better at taking nasty bends.

    3V is plenty tough and is probably tougher than what is needed in a blade like this but S7 has an edge in the ability to flex without snapping. If I end up going with thinner stock, S7 is likely going to be the choice. I may offer both steels. Again, 3V is more than tough enough, but for a real beater, S7 is probably better.

    I would like to use a steel like 52100 but these blades are too long to fit into an oil quench so an air hardening steel is a must.

    In regards to the edge retention of 3V, abrasive wear is the smallest factor in edge deterioration in a chopper. Edge stability is much more important. Here 3V has an edge, but s7 can take a sufficiently thin edge for a sword.
     
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  9. Huntsman Knife Co.

    Huntsman Knife Co. KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Sep 10, 2010
    It will be fairly heavy overall but it will be balanced. The fuller, high grind, and a relatively thin stock will keep it snappy. I'm also planning on taking some weight out of the tang.
     
  10. ceptor781

    ceptor781

    735
    Feb 4, 2012
    Very cool. For a brute piece S7 sounds great. Put me on the list for please.
     
  11. yoko

    yoko

    705
    Sep 4, 2011
    Interesting!
     
  12. gunfixrjoe

    gunfixrjoe KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Aug 11, 2011
    I'm interested to see how this turns out. Glad you are back.....
     
  13. Huntsman Knife Co.

    Huntsman Knife Co. KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Sep 10, 2010
    Good to hear from you Joe:thumbup:
     
  14. frc505

    frc505

    686
    Jun 12, 2010
    What would be the price of the wakizashi ?
    I'm very interested and have some cash that
    Is starting to burn a hole in my pocket if you
    Make them out of 3V and with a micarta handle
    Let me know and if it in my budget I will place a
    Order thanks for your time!

    Frank
     
  15. Huntsman Knife Co.

    Huntsman Knife Co. KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Sep 10, 2010
    I am still working out all of the logistics but these will certainly be in the $1000-$1200 range. I'm not willing to do a pre order just yet because I have to make sure that I can get a access to a mill to cut the fuller and I also need to do hands on testing with the design. I will keep everyone updated as I finalize my logistics and price and get geared up to take a pre order. That will not be for another month or two.

    Thanks so much for your interest in my designs. Ill get a sword into your hands, it may just take some time.
     
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  16. kookery

    kookery

    337
    Oct 11, 2012
    The blade edge needs some curve to be ideal. Do you expect difficulty milling a fuller in CPM 3V? $1k+ is a ton of money, is there no way to bring that cost WAAAAYYYY down? I would be interested in this blade type in any steel suitable for a machete.

    Will it be marked and marketed as a machete? That would be helpful for legal reasons. Machetes are agricultural tools, swords are weapons that might hypothetically threaten the power of the incumbent warlords, so mere possession must be severely punished. It's all for the children, of course...and democracy...and mumble-mumble...
     
  17. xxwarderxx

    xxwarderxx Gold Member Gold Member

    Mar 27, 2015
    Subscribing for updates. I like how this project is sounding. From the specs, design, and materials.

    Hoping this gets some traction.
     
  18. Huntsman Knife Co.

    Huntsman Knife Co. KnifeMaker / Craftsman / Service Provider Knifemaker / Craftsman / Service Provider

    Sep 10, 2010
    This is what's lined up after the tyrant bowie run.

    The next runs of new models will be
    Tyrant Bowie
    Bush Waki
    Tyrant Kukri
     
  19. madcap_magician

    madcap_magician Gold Member Gold Member

    Feb 27, 2005
    Any pictures or picture updates since Photobucket crapped on us all?
     
  20. Currawong

    Currawong Gold Member Gold Member

    719
    May 19, 2012
    ^^ I'm keen to hear also. Particularly the tyrant bowie !
     

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