Bush Waki Project

Huntsman Knife Co. said:
I'm currently working on making a finalized prototype of the Tyrant Bowie so everyone can see exactly what the production version will look like but for now, here is the old prototype as well as a CAD drawing of the new one.

Specs will be 18.5in overall, 13.5 in blade that flares to 2.5 inches at the sweet spot, full flat grind, .275 thick CPM 3V HT to 60-61.

Below is a picture of the original prototype. Aside from being made from .275 3V, the blade shape and general look are basically identical. The major changes will be
(1) A new handle
The production model will feature an entirely new handle that is a little smaller overall so it can be used for knife tasks, but still geared towards chopping. I've included pictures of the new scales. They are available in 3 colors of G10 and black terotuf. The new scales have a hidden lanyard hole.
(2) Jimping + thumb ramp
The production model will have a small thumb ramp with jimping
(3) Logo
Production blades will have a logo. Prototype was sterile.
(4) Blade Finish
I haven't completely decided yet but I might go with a stonewashed finish instead of satin. Or I can offer both.

MolHfgx.jpg


lVqTsSm.jpg



PGObfI6.jpg


pFZLLo4.jpg


HlEBGyj.png
Click to expand...

That is awesome! Perfect pairing with the Bush Waki! Right now my favorite combination for clearing brush on the property is one of my 3V Brush Swords and my Carothers light chopper or Busse Basic 10. Great combo, Brush sword for the blackberries and thorny bas!^*rds, and chopper for the bamboo, de-limbing trees, and processing fallen trees. Would love to try The Bush Waki and Tyrant Bowie!!
 
Huntsman Knife Co. said:
I will offer another less expensive steel option. The Kukri will require loads of CNC work that will already drive the cost up really high. Add in 3V and you're generally looking at a 50% increase in price just from the material cost and extra tooling expense. 3V is the best but its prohibitively expensive when you get into really big blades. Doing a premium 3V model with a perfect surface finish and all the bells an whistles combined with a 80CrV2 model with a "user grade or field grade" finish might be the way to go.
Click to expand...
Very interested in a 3V version:thumbsup::cool:
 
Brummie said:
Yep. Hope this sees the light of day eventually.
Click to expand...

Me too. The Kurki, Tyrant Bowie, and Bush Waki have presented serious challenges for production. I've only been able to make a prototype for the Tyrant Bowie which turned out really cool but still a far cry from the planned production model. Once I find a machine shop willing to work with me, these designs will be produced. They are all so large that I can't grind them by hand in any quantity. In fact, they're so large that even shops with massive CNC mills don't want to mess with them.

I'm talking to a shop in Lexington that produces aerospace and naval components. They may be willing to take on the projects. Making a 13in blade can't be that hard compared to machining a freaking naval cannon :eek:
 
Elika said:
I'm looking forward to ordering a bush waki if/when it becomes available.
Click to expand...
Its in the works.

Future projects should be faster and smoother. Milling out these huge knives and swords in super steels is quite the processes even for very high level machinists. We've learned a ton from The tyrant bowie and will be able to translate that knowledge to the Waki and other big knives like the kukri.
 
Hello!Ordered Tyrant Bowie few days ago,very excited by waiting it!
Your Bush Waki idea really interested me.
I can imagine the difficulty of making such blades.
By the way, what if there is a 3V option with your heat treat or just regular hardening?even if the price for a 3V blade is twice as high as that of a tyrant, it will be more than justified given the size and awesomeness of the project.
I can't wait for all your projects to see the light of day.Just know that I want everything that will be made by you.I saw the blade release schedule on the website, but as I understand it, due to the complexity of the project, it may be delayed. I’m just curious to know, maybe some kind of update?
By the way, I ordered Tyrant in 3V with micarta, I will be glad when I receive it
 
Moorik said:
Hello!Ordered Tyrant Bowie few days ago,very excited by waiting it!
Your Bush Waki idea really interested me.
I can imagine the difficulty of making such blades.
By the way, what if there is a 3V option with your heat treat or just regular hardening?even if the price for a 3V blade is twice as high as that of a tyrant, it will be more than justified given the size and awesomeness of the project.
I can't wait for all your projects to see the light of day.Just know that I want everything that will be made by you.I saw the blade release schedule on the website, but as I understand it, due to the complexity of the project, it may be delayed. I’m just curious to know, maybe some kind of update?
By the way, I ordered Tyrant in 3V with micarta, I will be glad when I receive it
Click to expand...
Got your tyrant bowie order! They are coming back from HT in 10 days. 🙌

I'm open to making the bush waki in 3V if people want it, I just think Z tuff is a better value overall and has even greater toughness and edge stability in a sword.

As for the production schedule, we are running the Fell Chef next and the Fjord hiker then Kukri. The Waki will probably be an end of the year project.

I appreciate the support and hope to see you more on the forum
 
Huntsman Knife Co. LLC. said:
Got your tyrant bowie order! They are coming back from HT in 10 days. 🙌

I'm open to making the bush waki in 3V if people want it, I just think Z tuff is a better value overall and has even greater toughness and edge stability in a sword.

As for the production schedule, we are running the Fell Chef next and the Fjord hiker then Kukri. The Waki will probably be an end of the year project.

I appreciate the support and hope to see you more on the forum
Click to expand...
Thanks for your answer and your time.
i think,i will buy Fell chef,and also Fjord Hiker 100% for sure!The Kukri looks cool and I really like it, it’s just that the blade is a little not for me, although it seems to me that if I see a live example, I’ll take that too ^_^
Know that you have great support from me and other people too!The Waki Project literally captivated me! If you manage to bring it to light, my opinion may not be the most important, but I would like 3V.
on the other hand, if Waki came to shop,i think i will buy both of steels.
Keep doing what you are doing, for me, the most important point is that your work is something that literally has no analogues and looks incredibly cool.
Before I found you, a blade like a tyrant or a waki was literally my dream. Well, thanks for making 1 of 2 accomplished by you! I hope to accomplish 2 as well! :)
I'm not kidding, if waki sees the light of day, I want exactly 3V with your heat treatment, but for support I'll take Z-tuff too :)
It’s very nice to see people like this who have a certain dream and interest in how a blade should look, and you fulfill it.

In general, it seems to me that this is literally your thing, that you are doing what you yourself dreamed and wanted.
Well, know that for many people, this coincides with your vision!
God bless you!

Edited:
Btw,how much will the waki weigh? Its thickness will be 0.250, right?
And the blade is 21 long
31 total, right?
 
Moorik said:
Thanks for your answer and your time.
i think,i will buy Fell chef,and also Fjord Hiker 100% for sure!The Kukri looks cool and I really like it, it’s just that the blade is a little not for me, although it seems to me that if I see a live example, I’ll take that too ^_^
Know that you have great support from me and other people too!The Waki Project literally captivated me! If you manage to bring it to light, my opinion may not be the most important, but I would like 3V.
on the other hand, if Waki came to shop,i think i will buy both of steels.
Keep doing what you are doing, for me, the most important point is that your work is something that literally has no analogues and looks incredibly cool.
Before I found you, a blade like a tyrant or a waki was literally my dream. Well, thanks for making 1 of 2 accomplished by you! I hope to accomplish 2 as well! :)
I'm not kidding, if waki sees the light of day, I want exactly 3V with your heat treatment, but for support I'll take Z-tuff too :)
It’s very nice to see people like this who have a certain dream and interest in how a blade should look, and you fulfill it.

In general, it seems to me that this is literally your thing, that you are doing what you yourself dreamed and wanted.
Well, know that for many people, this coincides with your vision!
God bless you!

Edited:
Btw,how much will the waki weigh? Its thickness will be 0.250, right?
And the blade is 21 long
31 total, right?
Click to expand...
Thanks for the support!

My goal is to make blades that no one else is crazy enough to attempt and bring people's dream knives to life 😅

I'm not sure how much the Waki will weigh. I still need to get a new prototype made and play around with it before finalizing the dimensions.
 
Last edited:
I have not heard much about this recently. With you using 52100 it may be of interest
Alfred Pendray ABS MS, was doing a molten salt quench on 52100 to get a banite structure rather than a martensite structure.
This was in the 1990s. He said it was much tougher.
He was having Vanderhoven (spelling) at the Jet Propulsion lab do photos with an electron microscope to evaluate the structure.
 
cmcampbell said:
I have not heard much about this recently. With you using 52100 it may be of interest
Alfred Pendray ABS MS, was doing a molten salt quench on 52100 to get a banite structure rather than a martensite structure.
This was in the 1990s. He said it was much tougher.
He was having Vanderhoven (spelling) at the Jet Propulsion lab do photos with an electron microscope to evaluate the structure.
Click to expand...

Salt quenches are the best for alot of steels, including many air hardening steels, its just very difficult and expensive to do. I believe they have a salt quench at Kowalski HT. I'll talk to them. I've been wanting to try 3V or Z Tuff in a salt quench. Should in theory get much better hardness and toughness than a nitrogen gas quench.
 
Huntsman Knife Co. LLC. said:
Salt quenches are the best for alot of steels, including many air hardening steels, its just very difficult and expensive to do. I believe they have a salt quench at Kowalski HT. I'll talk to them. I've been wanting to try 3V or Z Tuff in a salt quench. Should in theory get much better hardness and toughness than a nitrogen gas quench.
Click to expand...
Sounds extremely interesting.
I am very weak in knowledge of this kind.
Is there anyone who has conducted similar experiments, literally, I mean in practice?
And what kind of hardening, purely in theory, is the best, if you don’t think about the price?
P.S.
I myself became terribly interested, I tried to find someone who does this with 3V or Z-Tuff, but I couldn’t find anything.
P.P.S.S
made a research.
Might be wrong:
bainite is softer than martensite (55-58HRC VS 60-62HRC)
As you understand, bainite has 55-58. (This is what we get the salt way)
Which, in essence, will make the blade softer, and it will hold the cutting edge worse.
Wear resistance will decrease.
And if we say so, then 3V and Z-TUFF, even with cryo, are not the best steels in terms of wear resistance.
P.P.P.S.S.S
I'm a complete noob at this, this is just theoretical information that I clarified with one person and double-checked with the help of AI :rolleyes:
P.P.P.P.S.S.S.S
STOP,we can combo this quench?!Wow
 
Last edited:
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top