Busse Combat

[CookieRawwr]

Well I will have two Basic 13s on order, on in Infi and the other in SR101. probably going to put at least one on the market. And no, I'm not going to gouge the asking price. I like having the choice to get your own sheath made, got a nice custom leather sheath for my TGLB and Kydex for my battlegrade AK47.

 

[Mannlicher]

After owning countless fixed blades I can say with a fair amount of confidence, the majority of sheaths you get with your new blade stink. They are an after though for most makers and it show. I'd rather just pay to have one properly made for my knife. Once Blade Show is over, O2W will be back in full effect.

the point here is not really that Busse does not provide a sheath, however well made. The point is that for the price they charge, they should offer the option of the knife coming with a decent, well made sheath, or bucks off the price for the privilege of making your own, or scrounging all over the internet for someone to make a sheath that makes your soul sing.

 

[Dangerously]

As much as I would rather Jerry Busse ran his business differently (so I could put a knife in a cart and get it shipped immediately), I find it hard to criticize someone who sells everything they make at the price they ask. Throw in the fact Jerry seems to have fun doing it and it's an enviable position.

 

[craytab]

As much as I would rather Jerry Busse ran his business differently (so I could put a knife in a cart and get it shipped immediately), I find it hard to criticize someone who sells everything they make at the price they ask. Throw in the fact Jerry seems to have fun doing it and it's an enviable position.

Exactly. They are doing what they want the way they want and seem to be making money at it. Can't fault them for that!

the point here is not really that Busse does not provide a sheath, however well made. The point is that for the price they charge, they should offer the option of the knife coming with a decent, well made sheath, or bucks off the price for the privilege of making your own, or scrounging all over the internet for someone to make a sheath that makes your soul sing.

Would I love a good kydex sheath to come with my Busse? Yes. But to want money off the knife because it doesn't come with a sheath is basically saying you just want their knives to be less expensive. I want that too! Believe me! Alas, that is not how things work. And at least for me, I don't have to search the internet for a sheath I like. There are at least 2 makers here I know I can get a sheath for most Busse knives. At least 3 others I can think of off the forum I know I can get what I want. The prices are reasonable as well.

 

[Seriousbladeno1]

the point here is not really that Busse does not provide a sheath, however well made. The point is that for the price they charge, they should offer the option of the knife coming with a decent, well made sheath, or bucks off the price for the privilege of making your own, or scrounging all over the internet for someone to make a sheath that makes your soul sing.

You are absolutely right..thats exactly what was the point made by some of us. I understand, there are folks,who are willing to pay double expenses (knife & sheath) and no offence, but there are folks, who - if spending premium money ,than expecting premium product.... would I spend 400-800 bucks for a large blade? Hell yes I would, only for certain blades like a large Randall 12 models, but there is a difference - these comes with the sheaths and hell they are proudly called the sheaths,no cheap Kydex neither balistic nylon, but heck of the thick leather and these goes on the market often for same price as the knife itself..... when you need one original. I like Busse large blades such as Battle Mistress and so on (great design and I believe knife is of fantastic quality) but,,,,,same bucks as for Randall if not more, having to scout for equal premium sheath, costing another couple of hundreds bucks is what many are just not willing to fork out.So IMO, having to spend yes, but for premium cost, I just expect WHOLE premium, not the HALF of it....

 

[AntDog]

A quality sheath for a Busse is not $200. Not even close.

My Busse Basic 9 came with a sheath. Some other models did as well, or at least gave you the option.

I personally like being able to choose my own sheath as opposed to getting a crappy one I won't use and having to buy one anyway. That happens to me all the time. I can count the number of knives I own that still have their factory sheaths on about 3 fingers.

If you order a knife from Busse and order a nice sheath, I guarantee you'll get the sheath first, so it isn't like you have to hunt around and wait and wait on the sheath.

The bottom line is Busse Combat knives are quality with a capital Q. They are some of the best, most high performance blades in the world. I wasn't buying the hype until I used them. They are the real deal. Worth the wait and the money. They trash everything in their price range.

 

[DJC72]

Idealistically, I can understand the argument that a knife should come with a sheath. Realistically, the fact is Busse doesn't or rarely provides one. That's the fact people must deal with. There is not law that states a knife company has to provide a sheath. Busse defies this logic and stills sells its knives like hot cakes. Busse does not provide one and are up front about it. Consumers that don't like that fact, don't have to buy their knives. Jerry is one of those rare people that can get away with doing things his own way. I've never had an issue finding a sheath for any of my Busse knives and all have been at a very reasonable price. If they did provide a sheath, that cost would be added to the final price point.

Personally, I hate the fact that When I buy a knife, I am paying extra for a poorly made sheath that I will likely upgrade. I've seen this topic debated a number of times before.

 

[craytab]

You are absolutely right..thats exactly what was the point made by some of us. I understand, there are folks,who are willing to pay double expenses (knife & sheath) and no offence, but there are folks, who - if spending premium money ,than expecting premium product.... would I spend 400-800 bucks for a large blade? Hell yes I would, only for certain blades like a large Randall 12 models, but there is a difference - these comes with the sheaths and hell they are proudly called the sheaths,no cheap Kydex neither balistic nylon, but heck of the thick leather and these goes on the market often for same price as the knife itself..... when you need one original. I like Busse large blades such as Battle Mistress and so on (great design and I believe knife is of fantastic quality) but,,,,,same bucks as for Randall if not more, having to scout for equal premium sheath, costing another couple of hundreds bucks is what many are just not willing to fork out.So IMO, having to spend yes, but for premium cost, I just expect WHOLE premium, not the HALF of it....

If the lack of a sheath is holding you back on a knife that costs $800 I think you might have your priorities wrong. Further, when you say a premium product, don't you think it is important to where something is made and what it is made out of over and to be made by a quality company the inclusion of a sheath? Those DUK knives that are so often tuaghted are dubious at best and expensive. They won't even tell you where they are made. They cost $200 plus. Sorry, I'll take no sheath, high quality company, high quality materials, and known source any day all day. Add on another $40 and I can get a sheath from a number of quality makers.

 

[marcinek]

the point here is not really that Busse does not provide a sheath, however well made. The point is that for the price they charge, they should offer the option of the knife coming with a decent, well made sheath, or bucks off the price for the privilege of making your own, or scrounging all over the internet for someone to make a sheath that makes your soul sing.

If they they came with a sheath...they would cost more. So you are already getting bucks off the price.

 

[marcinek]

You are absolutely right..thats exactly what was the point made by some of us. I understand, there are folks,who are willing to pay double expenses (knife & sheath) and no offence, but there are folks, who - if spending premium money ,than expecting premium product.... would I spend 400-800 bucks for a large blade? Hell yes I would, ....

Heh? So, I think you are saying that if a Busse costs X dollars without a sheath you wouldn't buy it, but if it cost 2X and came with a sheath you would? But you wouldn't buy a Busse for X and buy a sheath for X?

Or are you saying for X dollars a Busse should come with a sheath?

I wish it would come with a pony for X dollars, and a baseball cap. But it doesn't. I want my hamburgers to come with free fries. But they don't.

I'm not following the logic here.

 

[unwisefool]

I like the Busse baseball cap idea

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[marcinek]

I like the Busse baseball cap idea

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Well, if they dont do it...they should at least take some money off the price of their knives so we can go buy a baseball cap. It only seems right.

Also a sharpening system. I need that for a knife, and if they aren't going to include it, they should knock some money off the price so we can buy one.

 

[unwisefool]

Sharpening system? That's silly, busse knives are not supposed to be sharpened. They are meant to be put in drawers and admired occasionally and only taken out for group pictures.

But in all honesty their battle grade offerings have been very reasonable for what you get. A basic sheath isn't that expensive. Or you can just do what I do and get some kydex and make ugly but functional sheaths.

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[jbmonkey]

Sharpening system? That's silly, busse knives are not supposed to be sharpened. They are meant to be put in drawers and admired occasionally and only taken out for group pictures.

But in all honesty their battle grade offerings have been very reasonable for what you get. A basic sheath isn't that expensive. Or you can just do what I do and get some kydex and make ugly but functional sheaths.

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funny. kinda true too, but you are going to pay for that comment.

here comes the few offended didn't get the joke busse owners with pictures with scratches on the coating wedged in a log.....

 

[unwisefool]

Ha I will fully admit to having a pile of unused Busse blades that are too pretty to use. But I also have 4 that I use pretty regularly.

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[rustyrazor]

A Busse is to knife guys what a rolex is to watch guys... it's something coveted for one reason or another and you want or don't. Jerry has provided something more than a what a typical knife/sheath combo can give... a little mystery, one of the best heat treat's in the business and a reputation second to none in the non custom market and he's knit himself a really nice niche market that makes the rest of us pretty jealous I'd say and good for him. I don't think he has much to worry about in not providing sheaths... pretty sure people would buy them if they came without handles!

 

[marcinek]

A Busse is to knife guys what a rolex is to watch guys... it's something coveted for one reason or another and you want or don't. Jerry has provided something more than a what a typical knife/sheath combo can give... a little mystery, one of the best heat treat's in the business and a reputation second to none in the non custom market and he's knit himself a really nice niche market that makes the rest of us pretty jealous I'd say and good for him. I don't think he has much to worry about in not providing sheaths... pretty sure people would buy them if they came without handles!

Indeed. It's just odd that people are claiming that they should be cheaper because they don't provide a sheath.

That doesn't make sense.

 

[rustyrazor]

Indeed. It's just odd that people are claiming that they should be cheaper because they don't provide a sheath.

That doesn't make sense.

that's the part that makes me think people don't stop and think about... yes, of course it would be nice if your desired fixed blade came with the sheath you wanted, but it would add another chunk of money on top of the knife and for what? most people wouldn't be happy with it anyway and would go get a custom sheath. All this to say, why bother? it's not like the Busse won't sell without a sheath... they sell faster than most no matter what most throw in

 

[marcinek]

that's the part that makes me think people don't stop and think about... yes, of course it would be nice if your desired fixed blade came with the sheath you wanted, but it would add another chunk of money on top of the knife ...

Bingo. Nailed it. Its not "it should cost less because it doesn't come with a sheath", its "it already costs less because it doesn't come with a sheath".

 

[craytab]

Indeed. It's just odd that people are claiming that they should be cheaper because they don't provide a sheath.

That doesn't make sense.

Exactly. I think it is an excuse to just want it less expensive overall, which I agree with. I wish my Busses were less expensive. It is what it is though. Oh well.

Here are those pics requested above: