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course you COULD make yourself one just like it for around $25.00 and THEN you could attach the handles any way ya wanted
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Busse vs. Fehrman vs.Strider
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course you COULD make yourself one just like it for around $25.00 and THEN you could attach the handles any way ya wanted
Nothing much to comment on the review, really. As said, Busses, Fehrmans and Striders are all solid knives, and unlikely to break in "reasonable" use. There are differences in the knives, all kinds of differences, but certainly any of those is tough enough to never fail in reasonable, normal use.
I've never had any problems with the handles of Busse knives. All have stayed on very well, even though I've batoned quite a lot with them (and not always with just a little stick of wood, either...)
It's good if you've found a knife you're pleased with, ie. the Fehrmans, but I do wonder how you ended up spending over ten thousand bucks on knives whose handles fail to stay on according to your experience. Did the handles start spontaneously failing only after you had already spent 10k+, or did you for some strange reason just keep buying even after being disappointed with the handles?
In my experience, Busses certainly do not lose to Fehrmans when it comes to durability in use. And the Fehrman handles are just plain atrociously horrible for me (I hate the finger notches in the handle, as they limit grip options a great lot) - for some, of course, those may be the best fitting, most comfortable handles on earth, and that's good for them. Different people, different needs, different hands... that's why there are so many successful knife manufacturers and so many different successful designs. :thumbup:
As far as "hype" is concerned, though, I find none of those makers innocent to big buzz words and silly slogans. Do any of these ring a bell, perhaps? "Fierce tools"? (Exactly how fierce are we talking about here? Are they going to savage people they don't know?) "High speed tools for hardcore individuals"? (While this may make perfect sense in the American market, quite a few Finns have a hard time not dying of laughter upon hearing something like this. But I guess we're just not hardcore enough. Or high speed enough.) And then, of course... "Nuclear tough" etc etc... (Should I bring a geiger counter?) Well, I guess that's how combat type knives like this may tend to marketed. Not a problem for me, although it gives some good laughs every now and then. Point being, I wouldn't say that only one or two of these makers engages in "hype" - it's an industry-wide issue.
I've never had any problems with the handles of Busse knives. All have stayed on very well, even though I've batoned quite a lot with them (and not always with just a little stick of wood, either...)
It's good if you've found a knife you're pleased with, ie. the Fehrmans, but I do wonder how you ended up spending over ten thousand bucks on knives whose handles fail to stay on according to your experience. Did the handles start spontaneously failing only after you had already spent 10k+, or did you for some strange reason just keep buying even after being disappointed with the handles?
In my experience, Busses certainly do not lose to Fehrmans when it comes to durability in use. And the Fehrman handles are just plain atrociously horrible for me (I hate the finger notches in the handle, as they limit grip options a great lot) - for some, of course, those may be the best fitting, most comfortable handles on earth, and that's good for them. Different people, different needs, different hands... that's why there are so many successful knife manufacturers and so many different successful designs. :thumbup:
As far as "hype" is concerned, though, I find none of those makers innocent to big buzz words and silly slogans. Do any of these ring a bell, perhaps? "Fierce tools"? (Exactly how fierce are we talking about here? Are they going to savage people they don't know?) "High speed tools for hardcore individuals"? (While this may make perfect sense in the American market, quite a few Finns have a hard time not dying of laughter upon hearing something like this. But I guess we're just not hardcore enough. Or high speed enough.) And then, of course... "Nuclear tough" etc etc... (Should I bring a geiger counter?)
Well, I guess that's how combat type knives like this may tend to marketed. Not a problem for me, although it gives some good laughs every now and then. Point being, I wouldn't say that only one or two of these makers engages in "hype" - it's an industry-wide issue.
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Yeah... but this is kind of the essence of much of what goes on in our culture in general, and BF-style knife culture in specific. The automotive analogy is really a good one.
Porsche and BMW with all their road race technology, Subaru and Mitsubishi with rally-inspired/developed technology, etc. People buy these cars for all sorts of reasons - most of them seem to be founded in pure fantasy. A kid autocrossing a stock Neon at a local event and trying to shave a few 1/10's off his best time... that is racing - not trolling around town in your Z06 looking for chicks.
So I think intent and skill play a very large part in performance. But that's not to say it's unreasonable to buy cars (or knives) for other reasons. Many of the people in the Busse Club and Strider Club understand precisely what they are doing. They are having a good time. Go in there looking to have a big SHTF performance shoot-out, and the joke is one you.
Anyone who's really interested in personal performance realizes that you can't just go out and buy speed and bolt it on. You have to work at it.
Everyone decides how much they want to work, how much satisfaction they can get from simply buying a piece of metal and the extent to which they want to take their piece of metal out to the track and put it in harm's way. As long as folks aren't kidding themselves, I think it's all good.
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Yeah... but this is kind of the essence of much of what goes on in our culture in general, and BF-style knife culture in specific. The automotive analogy is really a good one.
Porsche and BMW with all their road race technology, Subaru and Mitsubishi with rally-inspired/developed technology, etc. People buy these cars for all sorts of reasons - most of them seem to be founded in pure fantasy. A kid autocrossing a stock Neon at a local event and trying to shave a few 1/10's off his best time... that is racing - not trolling around town in your Z06 looking for chicks.
So I think intent and skill play a very large part in performance. But that's not to say it's unreasonable to buy cars (or knives) for other reasons. Many of the people in the Busse Club and Strider Club understand precisely what they are doing. They are having a good time. Go in there looking to have a big SHTF performance shoot-out, and the joke is one you.
Anyone who's really interested in personal performance realizes that you can't just go out and buy speed and bolt it on. You have to work at it.
Everyone decides how much they want to work, how much satisfaction they can get from simply buying a piece of metal and the extent to which they want to take their piece of metal out to the track and put it in harm's way. As long as folks aren't kidding themselves, I think it's all good.
In the "Get girls with a knife" topic, I hear a SAK works wonders.
In the "Get girls with a knife" topic, I hear a SAK works wonders.
Not to stray too far O/T, but my experience with girls has been that the good ones are impressed more by the effective use of hardware than simply the hardware itself.
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Not to stray too far O/T, but my experience with girls has been that the good ones are impressed more by the effective use of hardware than simply the hardware itself.
I knew there was a reason I can go 0-60 in <6 sec in my Camero Z28.
Well, it got traded for a Honda Civic. Gas millage.
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Nothing much to comment on the review, really. As said, Busses, Fehrmans and Striders are all solid knives, and unlikely to break in "reasonable" use. There are differences in the knives, all kinds of differences, but certainly any of those is tough enough to never fail in reasonable, normal use.
I've never had any problems with the handles of Busse knives. All have stayed on very well, even though I've batoned quite a lot with them (and not always with just a little stick of wood, either...)
It's good if you've found a knife you're pleased with, ie. the Fehrmans, but I do wonder how you ended up spending over ten thousand bucks on knives whose handles fail to stay on according to your experience. Did the handles start spontaneously failing only after you had already spent 10k+, or did you for some strange reason just keep buying even after being disappointed with the handles?
In my experience, Busses certainly do not lose to Fehrmans when it comes to durability in use. And the Fehrman handles are just plain atrociously horrible for me (I hate the finger notches in the handle, as they limit grip options a great lot) - for some, of course, those may be the best fitting, most comfortable handles on earth, and that's good for them. Different people, different needs, different hands... that's why there are so many successful knife manufacturers and so many different successful designs. :thumbup:
As far as "hype" is concerned, though, I find none of those makers innocent to big buzz words and silly slogans. Do any of these ring a bell, perhaps? "Fierce tools"? (Exactly how fierce are we talking about here? Are they going to savage people they don't know?) "High speed tools for hardcore individuals"? (While this may make perfect sense in the American market, quite a few Finns have a hard time not dying of laughter upon hearing something like this. But I guess we're just not hardcore enough. Or high speed enough.) And then, of course... "Nuclear tough" etc etc... (Should I bring a geiger counter?)
I've seen him post that about Busse handles a couple of times now, and I have yet to see anybody else post a similar complaint. Even so, Busse would take care of him if he had those problems. I've got several Busses myself, and have never had this problem, and don't know anyone else who has. And I've done my share of chopping and batonning as well. I am quite sure I can stake my life on a Busse and not be let down.
Hype? That's sales for you.
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Not to stray too far O/T, but my experience with girls has been that the good ones are impressed more by the effective use of hardware than simply the hardware itself.
word. hardware is better than software.
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I have a friend who owned a Fehrman for a while, and he said that the handle design did not fit his hand well. I must admit that has stayed my hand on one or two occasions when I have contemplated buying a Fehrman.
If you compare the handle designs of the knives, the Fehrman definitely doesn't allow for as much flexibility when handling the knife, thanks to the bird's beak design.
I do have a combat grade BATAC and its a fantastic all-rounder. It slices plenty good.
If you compare the handle designs of the knives, the Fehrman definitely doesn't allow for as much flexibility when handling the knife, thanks to the bird's beak design.
I do have a combat grade BATAC and its a fantastic all-rounder. It slices plenty good.
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I own a 10" HoodHunter, and a Last Chance, and the Shadow scout. They are all excellent knives.. But I have to agree that the Last Chance Handle is too limiting, and on both the HH and the LC that little forfinger choil shaped insert is horrible, and painful in real use, and limits the hand.. I can barely fit my fingers in there..
Now.. the reality is.. SO WHAT.. for $30US I'm sending my Last Chance to Ranger knives, hes going to cleanup, and reshape the handle to suit MY hand.. If a knife is to be used, and not to be collected, then no-one should have any compunction about modifying a handle to fit YOUR hand.. Just like I'd rather go the extra mile and get custom shoes, not just accept a blister on my right toe, and left heel from a production fit.
We are all different.. We should not just put down a blade on handle fit, which is the most important part.. the handle is also the easiest to customize.
The Busse handles are very good too, more generically acceptable.. But I have had to modify every one of them to make them comfortable...
If you love BUSSE, or Love Fehrman, then I think, take the knife that has the Blade shape, and geometry that will suit your needs, and then carve out the handle to fit your hand specifically.. you will never be happier.
EDIT: I also own a BUSSE, Sus Scrofa, NMSFNO and SAR4LE.. Each has its benefits, and downsides..
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Bearcut is a known TROLL.
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Care to elaborate? I don't see anything trollish about his posts, other than the fact he liked the peformance of one knife over another.
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in the past he has appeared to have an agenda against busse knives.
look for the thread on the rope cutting contests.
I wanted a Busse knife for quite a while.
Every now and then a forum member would post his experience with Busse knives and relate to others how they didnt think the brand was anything special. Some had even owned several and had sold them off.
Without fail, a few of the usual suspects on this forum would jump down their throats claiming that the unimpressed owners had an agenda against Busse knives.
Kind of like what they are doing to me now
I had the opportunity to purchase a pre-owned model Busse I had wanted for some time, at a reasonable price.( Glad the economy has some upsides)
I am a fair minded man. If Busses are really so much better than anything else out there, then I wanted to find out.
I did find out that for my needs, not yours, mine, a Busse is no more capable of fulfilling my requirements for a knife than the other two brands I tested. There was NOTHING spectacular about the overall design in general, or INFI in particular.
Had Busse/INFI knocked my socks off I would be writing accolades about the brand and drinking the kool-aid, er, scotch
The Busse is a fine knife. In fact, Im going to keep it and continue using it. But it isnt going replace my other knives.
I started this thread to inform UNDECIDED potential Busse, Fehrman and Strider owners what my experience has been with these brands. This was intended to help those thinking about buying one of these brands, not to insult those of you who already own and love, worship and jack-*ff to the Busse brand. By the way, I am insulting you now.
By the way, if you are a Busse owner who is a gentleman like the owner who sold me his knife, I obviously am not talking to you. There are some really nice Busse owners out there.
I was willing to give Busse a chance. Why wouldnt I want the absolute best knife ever made? (If there truly is one) What I found is that Busses are great knives, but really no better, at least in this design, than a comparable Strider or Fehrman. (Of course I dont try to chop steel bars and granite blocks with a knife, maybe Busses do excel at that)
So for those of you who DONT yet own, but are interested, GET WHAT YOU LIKE AND DONT LOOK BACK.
Every now and then a forum member would post his experience with Busse knives and relate to others how they didnt think the brand was anything special. Some had even owned several and had sold them off.
Without fail, a few of the usual suspects on this forum would jump down their throats claiming that the unimpressed owners had an agenda against Busse knives.
Kind of like what they are doing to me now
I had the opportunity to purchase a pre-owned model Busse I had wanted for some time, at a reasonable price.( Glad the economy has some upsides)
I am a fair minded man. If Busses are really so much better than anything else out there, then I wanted to find out.
I did find out that for my needs, not yours, mine, a Busse is no more capable of fulfilling my requirements for a knife than the other two brands I tested. There was NOTHING spectacular about the overall design in general, or INFI in particular.
Had Busse/INFI knocked my socks off I would be writing accolades about the brand and drinking the kool-aid, er, scotch
The Busse is a fine knife. In fact, Im going to keep it and continue using it. But it isnt going replace my other knives.
I started this thread to inform UNDECIDED potential Busse, Fehrman and Strider owners what my experience has been with these brands. This was intended to help those thinking about buying one of these brands, not to insult those of you who already own and love, worship and jack-*ff to the Busse brand. By the way, I am insulting you now.
By the way, if you are a Busse owner who is a gentleman like the owner who sold me his knife, I obviously am not talking to you. There are some really nice Busse owners out there.
I was willing to give Busse a chance. Why wouldnt I want the absolute best knife ever made? (If there truly is one) What I found is that Busses are great knives, but really no better, at least in this design, than a comparable Strider or Fehrman. (Of course I dont try to chop steel bars and granite blocks with a knife, maybe Busses do excel at that)
So for those of you who DONT yet own, but are interested, GET WHAT YOU LIKE AND DONT LOOK BACK.
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after rereading some of your posts from the cutting comp why no busse thread (about 1 1/2 years ago), it would appear that your opinion of the busse brand is tainted from the beginning. if your tests are base on your opinions..................................... i don't think you'd be a fair judge.
also the insults toward "those of you who already own and love, worship and jack-*ff to the Busse brand" is not necessary. as pointed out in your trollish (imo) comp. cutting why no busse thread, most people like and buy many brands of knives.
do you have a video of the tests? pics? the sole picture you provide shows a used batacle and pristine fehrman and strider.
i've tried to have an open mind with your claims, but unless you provide some better evidence that these tests actually happened, and that you can get over the issues you have with busse, then people cannot just believe and trust your conclusions.
also the insults toward "those of you who already own and love, worship and jack-*ff to the Busse brand" is not necessary. as pointed out in your trollish (imo) comp. cutting why no busse thread, most people like and buy many brands of knives.
do you have a video of the tests? pics? the sole picture you provide shows a used batacle and pristine fehrman and strider.
i've tried to have an open mind with your claims, but unless you provide some better evidence that these tests actually happened, and that you can get over the issues you have with busse, then people cannot just believe and trust your conclusions.
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