Cadre???

SPXTrader said:
Alright, we're getting too many abbreviations here. Next thing you know, CPM110V in MIM would have an ETA of MMM, and TWH a lot of UKA who would PAF! TW WLT!

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riffraff said:
TLA's FTW! ;)
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Truly amazing stuff. This knife is kind of a few years ahead of the pack in many respects. Whatever it leads to will certainly be interesting.

Hopefully the steel (?) will become available in a more affordable platform for guys like me. Having it only available in a knife that would bust my budget for a few months is a dangerous thing for a hopeless knife knut like me. :o

Kershaw continues to move relentlessy foreward with knives I couldn't have imagined even 6 years ago. Joe

PS: any available info on 110V yet? Is it a variant of 10V, or a comletely different steel? CPM company site search shows nothing. Thanks.
 
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I wonder if the machining, which is the point of the knife, could be incorporated in a design that didn't compromise the performance/utility as much? For instance if the horizontal cuts were beveled rather than 90 degrees, especially at the spine? While I respect the goals in making this knife, it seems odd to use a high-performance steel in a design that is not geared towards performance.
 
The Mastiff said:
Truly amazing stuff. This knife is kind of a few years ahead of the pack in many respects. Whatever it leads to will certainly be interesting.

Hopefully the steel (?) will become available in a more affordable platform for guys like me. Having it only available in a knife that would bust my budget for a few months is a dangerous thing for a hopeless knife knut like me. :o

Kershaw continues to move relentlessy foreward with knives I couldn't have imagined even 6 years ago. Joe

PS: any available info on 110V yet? Is it a variant of 10V, or a comletely different steel? CPM company site search shows nothing. Thanks.
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Thanks for the kind words Joe, means a lot coming from you.

As far as 110V goes here are some highlights from Crucible;

Carbon – 2.8%
Chromium – 14.0%
Vanadium – 9.0%
Molybdenum – 3.5%
Cobalt – 2.0%
Columbium – 3.5%

CPMS110V has excellent wear resistance and corrosion resistance – better than CPMS90V. It could be referred to as S90V on steroids.
 
Thomas, thank you for the info on that. That certainly is an exotic steel, very high end. It looks like a super high speed steel with wear resistance beefed up but some very high temp red hardness elements ( tungsten / high levels of cobalt) replaced. Not many EDC knives need to work while at 1000F and starting to glow.

All I can say is I'm amazed in a big way. A Stainless 10V is almost oversimplyifying it but the paralell in extreme wear resistance, while not being too brittle yet having some stain resistance too is like having your cake and eating it too. This must be that steel that hints have been leaking out about over the last 2 years.

No fine blanking this stuff! Lazers or waterjets only. Angry grinders, happy steel junkies . :)

Talk about being ahead of the rest. Thomas, you guys amaze me often, but sometimes more so than others. This is one of those times. Joe
 
Thomas W said:
The recessed machine area's (sculpting) is what the Cadre is all about. It's about taking the latest greatest steel, and processing it in a way that eyes have rarely seen. We can make a standard knife whenever we want. Just wasn't the goal with this project.
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In and of itself, I think the Cadre accomplishes what you wanted to. It is an original piece for sure. I don't particularly like the aesthetics and think the blade might be too thick for EDC, but I like the way Kershaw keeps pushing the envelope and trying new things. It bodes well for the future of knives and knife-lovers like us!

I still wish y'all would make a TABOO, but I also want lots of stuff that I'll never get.
 
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The work on and color of the scales reminds me a little of Tim G's custom Lahar. It looks great, almost like a denim color/pattern! Was the handle influenced by Tim at all?

A question for Thomas or the rest of you smart guys. The opening mechanism, is the recessed, sculpted area of the blade nearest the handle used in a manner similar to a thumb-hole/thumb-stud to open it, or is it strictly a two-hand opening, nail-nick sort of knife?

Thanks,
3G
 
commodorewheeler said:
Thomas, how does the S110V compare to the S125V?
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Again from Crucible, S125V would have better wear resistance. The S110V would be better than S125V in all other properties including corrosion resistance, toughness and most of all it is a lot easier to work with. The S125V is difficult to work with at the mill level, it doesn’t cut well.
The CPMS110V is much easier to work with and preliminary reports suggest it is a viable grade to work with when making folders.

3Guardsmen said:
The work on and color of the scales reminds me a little of Tim G's custom Lahar. It looks great, almost like a denim color/pattern! Was the handle influenced by Tim at all?

A question for Thomas or the rest of you smart guys. The opening mechanism, is the recessed, sculpted area of the blade nearest the handle used in a manner similar to a thumb-hole/thumb-stud to open it, or is it strictly a two-hand opening, nail-nick sort of knife?

Thanks,
3G
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3G, I agree that the scales have a bit of Tim in it. He did do the anodizing on it.

You can access the blade via the sculpted area(s) of the blade. It was actually quite easy to open it one handed. Another proto would address some additional blade real estate that would further assist in one hand opening area access.
 
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Thomas W said:
Again from Crucible, S125V would have better wear resistance. The S110V would be better than S125V in all other properties including corrosion resistance, toughness and most of all it is a lot easier to work with. The S125V is difficult to work with at the mill level, it doesn’t cut well.
The CPMS110V is much easier to work with and preliminary reports suggest it is a viable grade to work with when making folders.
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Cool, thanks for the info, Thomas! This S110V sounds like a really great steel, I hope to see more Kershaw pieces with it.
 
Hey Thomas,

This is a very interesting new model & I will watch the progress of it to see if it ever gets made :) Keep up the great work!

~George
 
Thanks for taking the time to answer my questions, Sir!:thumbup: On a side note, you guys did it again. I picked up a Skyline (first prodo run) and another Groove (that makes 3 now, why I needed a 3rd I'll never know) today while going to the knife shop to "just look" at the toys.:D I'm loving how thin this Skyline is!

Regards,
3G
 
Thanks for the info Thomas. I hope the project isn't shelved for whatever reasons as this concept is years ahead of anything else out there.

I'm looking foreward to trying the new 14C, and the CPM 110V, if ever used should really set the bar pretty darn high.

What a company!! It's like a team full of nothing but first round draft picks, and old, long time all pros that have been around ( Thomas!). No, I don't mean the Yankees either!! Think Red wings the last time they took Stanley's cup home. ( I'm from MI long ago) Joe
 
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Thomas W said:
Oh Mike must be referring to the fact that he came up with the name Cadre. Got to give him credit on this one. Funny what words a good Scotch can bring out.
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I really hope it is made. Just so I can gloat. :D

Besides, it's so weird/cool/crazy looking.

mike
 
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