Camillus and Schrade of Old Given Short Shrift Now-A-Days

Not even the same thing, but I miss the Lev-r-lock. I'm always looking for and buying one. Evidently, it stands out with sticky fingered folks too!
 
Got workers at the house from the gas company and a carpenter installing some new doors - grabbed this Camillus DEMO knife off the garage workbench this morning and it has been in my pocket ever since. Later today I am going to work on the edge some on a stone. OH
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Hoffmajo89 said:
Can anyone here help me identify this one? No marks I can see aside from the tang stamps. It’s about 3.5” closed. Seems to be bone (assuming so due to the crack by one of the pins).

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Schrade Walden medium stockman, so a pre-runner of the venerable Old Timer 34OT, is my guess.
I don't know the Schrade Walden pattern number.
I also don't recall when Schrade dropped "WALDEN" from their name.
Delrin was invented/discovered in 1952. My guess is the covers are bone.
From what I understand, Schrade used bone covers on the Schrade branded knives (their "high end" line) changing from Celluloid to Delrin in the Imperial (including the sub brands) Ulster, and Camillus (including sub brands) family lines after 1952.
I think the first Schrade line to use Delrin was the Uncle Henry line equipped with Staglon covers and grips.
 
afishhunter said:
Schrade Walden medium stockman, so a pre-runner of the venerable Old Timer 34OT, is my guess.
I don't know the Schrade Walden pattern number.
I also don't recall when Schrade dropped "WALDEN" from their name.
Delrin was invented/discovered in 1952. My guess is the covers are bone.
From what I understand, Schrade used bone covers on the Schrade branded knives (their "high end" line) changing from Celluloid to Delrin in the Imperial (including the sub brands) Ulster, and Camillus (including sub brands) family lines after 1952.
I think the first Schrade line to use Delrin was the Uncle Henry line equipped with Staglon covers and grips.
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The open stock Schrade equivalent of the 34ot is the 834, I believe.



My understanding is that all Uncle Henry's have staglon delrin. Most old timers have saw cut delrin, but very early models have sawcut bone. And the "open stock" Schrade's were jigged delrin with older models having a variety bone options. I think most Schrade Cut Co's are bone. They definitely had delrin at points in the Schrade Walden era. I think most Schrade's were delrin by the time the "Walden" was dropped.

I'm honestly not sure I've ever seen bone like the one posted, but it does look like bone as opposed to delrin. Always hard to say from just a few pics.

I'd love to hear more talk about all of this though! Very interesting topic!
 
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black mamba said:
The pattern number is 825, and with the bone handles and that tang stamp was made between 1954 and about 1961, when they changed to Delrin.
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Oh interesting!! We were typing at the same time 😂 I'll have to look into the 825 some. Don't know if I knew about that pattern!
 
afishhunter said:
Schrade Walden medium stockman, so a pre-runner of the venerable Old Timer 34OT, is my guess.
I don't know the Schrade Walden pattern number.
I also don't recall when Schrade dropped "WALDEN" from their name.
Delrin was invented/discovered in 1952. My guess is the covers are bone.
From what I understand, Schrade used bone covers on the Schrade branded knives (their "high end" line) changing from Celluloid to Delrin in the Imperial (including the sub brands) Ulster, and Camillus (including sub brands) family lines after 1952.
I think the first Schrade line to use Delrin was the Uncle Henry line equipped with Staglon covers and grips.
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black mamba said:
The pattern number is 825, and with the bone handles and that tang stamp was made between 1954 and about 1961, when they changed to Delrin.
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lithicus said:
The open stock Schrade equivalent of the 34ot is the 834, I believe.



My understanding is that all Uncle Henry's have staglon delrin. Most old timers have saw cut delrin, but very early models have sawcut bone. And the "open stock" Schrade's were jigged delrin with older models having a variety bone options. I think most Schrade Cut Co's are bone. They definitely had delrin at points in the Schrade Walden era. I think most Schrade's were delrin by the time the "Walden" was dropped.

I'm honestly not sure I've ever seen bone like the one posted, but it does look like bone as opposed to delrin. Always hard to say from just a few picks.

I'd love to hear more talk about all of this though! Very interesting topic!
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Thank you all! I knew this would be the place to find out more on this one. I’ll have to share some more detailed pics later with measurements and such.

I will say, it FEELS to me like a knife from the 50s-60s. Very well put together, tight with no wobble, and pretty decent action too!
 
Hoffmajo89 said:
As promised, a few more detail pictures of this one. I do really suspect it’s bone, mainly because I’ve never seen delrin with a crack. But either way, it’s pretty nice and I don’t care to test it with a hot needle 😮

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You have a model 890.


I have an earlier one in Peachseed bone.

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