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Well alrighty then. Listen up. Someone had a personal relationship with someone that put him in that position at two cutlery companies. All I need to say on that.
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Well alrighty then. Listen up. Someone had a personal relationship with someone that put him in that position at two cutlery companies. All I need to say on that.
Codger
This is the link to the Post-Standard's story on the Camillus Cutlery's closing.
It appeared Monday in the paper.
http://www.syracuse.com/articles/business/index.ssf?/base/business-7/117369009010720.xml&coll=1
It appeared Monday in the paper.
http://www.syracuse.com/articles/business/index.ssf?/base/business-7/117369009010720.xml&coll=1
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I agree Bob. What would Stewart Taylor know about running a cutlery factory?
IMHO, he only knows how to import cheap communist knives (made with slave labor) so he can make a lot of money. He is also very good at undercutting the American economy!
Just my opinion,
Dale
The problem really had little to do with economic turns as their lawyer wishes to maintain, but more to do with the money stripping that the family did over the past 15-20 years. The article also points out what everyone in the surrounding area knew, the owners were vacant, they refused to accept state aid as that would require the books to be opened, and that the conditions at and around the plant were steadily deteriorating. 30 years ago the plant was nice and clean, beautiful with the stream next to it, now its an eyesore, years of neglect show clearly.
My uncle worked machine maintenance there for 33+ years (72-06), he got his job when my grandfather passed(39-72), who got his job when his father retired(11-39). My family has a long history with these people and I can clearly tell you that this generation of the family was never concerned for the workers, but only about themselves. Another clear story of greed in america destroying an american icon.
My uncle worked machine maintenance there for 33+ years (72-06), he got his job when my grandfather passed(39-72), who got his job when his father retired(11-39). My family has a long history with these people and I can clearly tell you that this generation of the family was never concerned for the workers, but only about themselves. Another clear story of greed in america destroying an american icon.
It is more clear than ever that the owners and those that still make excuses for them, are nothing short of thieves.
The State Attorney's office should be in the process of stripping all of them of their assets and putting some of them in jail.
Those that think otherwise can attack me now.
The State Attorney's office should be in the process of stripping all of them of their assets and putting some of them in jail.
Those that think otherwise can attack me now.
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Thank you Charley, for that well written article. Having read it, I'm sure the Camillus story will be the basis for more than one study in business schools around the country for years to come, as the discussions will cover foreign competiton, poor and inattentive management, an expensive manufacturing environment in NY State, mismanagement of pension funds, and on and on.
I continue to hold to my earlier position that when absentee owners control a company (most especially in a small town), it's nothing more than a balance sheet. Trying to turn around a failing company is one thing, but fighting for the survival of your neighbors and a pillar of your community is another. It now appears that Darrel Ralph, Phil Gibbs, and Ethan Becker were more interested in the survival of Camillus than the family members who shared a heritage with the company's founder. What a shame.
I continue to hold to my earlier position that when absentee owners control a company (most especially in a small town), it's nothing more than a balance sheet. Trying to turn around a failing company is one thing, but fighting for the survival of your neighbors and a pillar of your community is another. It now appears that Darrel Ralph, Phil Gibbs, and Ethan Becker were more interested in the survival of Camillus than the family members who shared a heritage with the company's founder. What a shame.
Buck had the same situation, perhaps worse, in California. But instead of ripping people off and gutting the company, they simply moved. Now they have a new factory with a refreshened business plan, employees happy to be there, and AFAIK are doing very well.
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I agree, and I'm not suggesting that it was manaufacturing in NY alone that did them in, but for a struggling company it was certainly a factor that can't be ignored. To be perfectly honest, if that same company were in Texas, with the same people in control, I doubt that the outcome would have been much different.
Too bad Chuck Buck has no relatives in New York, looking to set up Buck Knives of The East.
The main ones I blame are the union reps who stuck it to us members and the owners. Thy're the ones who are to blame for a lot of what happened. While they were trying (saying) they were negotiating they all had their names in the paper telling everyone how GREAT they are. When the Cutlery closed you never saw their names anywhere. I'm pro union but our rep there was a snake. It was very sad to leave there.
Hey, I lost my job working a CNC machine for a company making SS boat hardware; a bit over a year ago
. The bastards took the whole shop to China , and none of the employees were union, and we had no protections for our jobs, even though we put out top quality work all day, every day. We lost all our med coverage of course within 2 months:jerkit: I got sick and ended up in the hospital and the bills came hard and fast, burying my family financially:barf: Next thing you know I'm having to sell off a bunch of items to save myself, and mistakenly I had to part with the Camillus Knife, 3 blade folder/horn scales, that my Grandfather had given me at 7 yrs old:grumpy: I can't remember what I got for it, but hopefully I can track it down and buy it back. Last time I made a post telling people that I thought Chinese metallurgy was in the Stone Age, and their knives were crap, a bunch of liberals jumped up and supported the invasion of cheap ass Chinese made crap knives
:thumbdn: If anyone brings a piece of Chinese crap into my home I take it to the garge and destory it until it fits in a ziplock bag and hand it back to them I will NEVER buy anything made in China, NEVER. We are being sold out by liberal voting until we will be unable to defend OUR COUNTRY...BUY AMERICAN OR DO WITHOUT!
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http://forums.miami.com/kr-actionline/messagesIn case anybody is interested - here's a link to the Miami Herald! Closest local newspaper to Coral Gables. Maybe time to let his neighbors know!:thumbup:
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I wish I had the software/tech savy to make a mirror of the site. I did go through and do screen captures of each of the Becker pages and of a couple more.
If you're interested in preserving any of the info, an easy way is to go to the page, hit your Print Screen button, and then Paste into a blank Word document. You can capture and paste as many screens as you'd like.
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A very good friend, also ex air force and police officer, sent me this a couple of months back, so very sad but true. Mods, if this is too long or inappropiate, my apologies, but to me it hits the nail, so to speak. Tends to branch off a bit here & there, but the central tone fits in with some of what's being discueeds here.
We Are Surrounded
Or, "How Well Do You Speak Chinese?"
By Craig Roberts
Sun Tzu, the ancient Chinese military philosopher who is oft quoted in our military institutions, wrote "One who is not acquainted with the designs of his neighbors should not enter into alliances with them."
This quote surfaced in my consciousness as I walked the aisles of a new Dollar-type store yesterday, picking up items and turning them over to see where they were made. I counted 20 items, of which 19 were made in China, and one in Pakistan. As a WWII baby boomer who grew up during the 50s and 60s, I could not help but shudder in the fact that I was holding items that were made by an avowed enemy, one that along with the former Soviet Union, forced me and my classmates in elementary school and junior high school to practice "Duck and Cover"and quick response to air raid sirens. In those post-war days we had a Civil Defense organization, were encouraged to prepare for a nuclear strike, build fallout shelters, and be ready in case Russia, China, or even Castro came over the horizon. Those days have faded away, but living through the Cold War and the ever-present threat of the bomb will remain with us forever.
Now there is no Civil Defense Corps, the fallout shelters are empty or used for storage, and we are told that the Soviet Union has collapsed, and the Red China is now our trading partner (and Taiwan never mentioned), and the only Barbarians at the Gate are North Korea and certain countries in the Middle East that support terrorist organizations.
However, as a student of history, and a former intelligence analyst, I see another world growing up around us. One the media ignores, the politicians refuse to recognize, and one of which the American people remain ignorant. It is a world in which we are surrounded, being infiltrated, and readied for invasion.
To understand what his happening today, one must understand certain military tenets of warfare. These include:
Infiltrate the enemy country with advance forces and spies.
Pre-position supplies close to the anticipated battleground.
Destroy the enemy's will to resist.
Destroy the enemy populations morals and morale.
Sew confusion among the enemy population
Cut lines of communication
Create diversions
Control all information and media outlets
Attack on many fronts
Destroy the enemy's capability to wage war
Reduce or destroy enemy's military bases
Strike only when ready and when enemy is at his weakest.
In the intelligence world, what we do is take pieces of information, like pieces of a puzzle, and "put them on the wall and see what picture develops." Lord Wellington of Waterloo once said "I've spent my entire military career wondering what the chap on the other side of the hill was doing." In intelligence circles, information gathering is chief among tasks, followed by "okay, what are they up to?"
Let us examine some current "intelligence indicators" and see what picture forms.
Over the last few decades, ever since Nixon went to China in 1972 to open trade relations, we have seen the Communist Chinese grow from a third-rate military force whose strength lay only in numbers to a very modern and well-equipped force ready to do battle on a global scale. Unlike Russia, the Chinese have done this very quietly, trying not to draw attention to their efforts, and with one goal in mind: destroy the United States and any allies. And we have helped them toward that goal. In fact, we continue to help them every day when we buy Chinese-made products. But beyond that, lets examine events that have strengthened Chinas military endeavors while weakening ours:
Carter signed the Canal over to Panama, and now China's "Civilian" ports company, Hutchinson-Whampoa, which has direct links to the PLAN (People's Liberation Army Navy) operates two ports, one on each end of the canal. It has been reported that Chinese males of military age disappear into the hinterlands and later surface in Mexico close to our southern border, and currently our Border Patrol has intercepted border crossers that were not only Mexican, but from all Central American Countries, Islamic groups, and China.
Bill Clinton gave China "most favored nation" trading status, opening our market to cheap slave-labor-made goods, which also destroyed many US companies and costing us jobs by underselling the market with cheap products. At the same time we turned our back on long-time ally, Nationalist China. All of this to "appease" the Red Chinese.
Under the Clinton administration, Loral and Hughes were allowed to sell China missile technology and guidance systems for "communications satellites." Within months we were told that China now bragged about being able to deliver a nuclear warhead to Los Angeles.
Also under the Clinton watch, Chinese spies were discovered at Los Alamos and in other places, some of which stole nuclear secrets for the Peoples Liberation Army. ("All warfare is based on deception. There is no place where espionage is not used. Offer the enemy bait to lure him" Sun Tzu)
While all of this was happening, our southern border was being invaded by illegal aliens to the point that besides Mexicans, we have many reports of Asians, Central Americans, and Middle-easterners coming unhindered into the U.S.
Couple this with COSCO, the China Ocean Shipping Company, which is the Merchant Marine arm of the Chinese Navy, working hand-in-hand with Hutchinson-Whampoa in establishing a huge transshipment center in Freeport, Bahamas, just off the Florida coast. This huge complex contains some of the biggest cranes in the world, plus hundreds upon hundreds of Sealift containers the size of semi-trucks being stored there. When I see this I cant help but think of Diego Garcia, our forward deployment base in the Pacific.
It is well known in the military that the easiest thing to move is troops. The hardest to move is material. You can order troops to march onto a ship or airplane, but it takes forklifts, cranes and manpower to move supplies. By forward deploying your logistics you are already half a battle ahead.
And Freeport is not the only suspect position for Chinese pre-deployment stocks. Reports have surfaced about COSCO ships unloading in Mexico and Canada, plus several ports inside the US itself. A few years back we read of a shipment in a Sealift container that came into Long Beach, California, loaded with automatic AK-47s, machine guns, grenades and explosives. We were told it was intercepted, and that it was probably being smuggled in to street gangs. We may never know of how many other shipments went undetected, and are still being smuggled in and pre-positioned. And not for street gangs!
Add to all this the fact that our own troops have been over-extended, our military suffering a continuing "build down" by base closings, reducing the numbers of aircraft in our squadrons and ships in our fleets, and reduction of war stocks by expenditure without restocking, plus using up our reserves and national guard forces in extended overseas missions, and we have the recipe for disaster. In other words, there ain't no one home watching the chickens, and the wolf is prowling the broken fence line.
There are those who say that China is being influenced by prosperity, and that they are reaping the rewards of capitalism, and because of this have no reason to use military might to forward Mao's version of Communism. These pie-in-the-sky wishers do not understand the Chinese. What we are really doing is financing their military buildups, technology, and monetary base. Those who have forgotten history need to be reminded that we did the same thing in the 1930s when we sold scrap metal to Japan, only to reap the whirlwind when they used our metal in the ships and planes and bombs that attacked Pearl Harbor. Hitler's Germany also prospered from "ree trade" by using our technology in the petroleum industry to manufacture fuels and lubricants by synthetic means. Still, we continue to feed the Chinese dragon and think nothing of where our money goes when we buy those items "Made in China."
While we are looking at the pieces of the puzzle, we also need to add the other pieces that match the tenets of war. Sun Tzu wrote that "Appraise war in terms of the fundamental factors. The first of these factors is moral influence", and also "When a leader is morally weak and his discipline not strict, when there are no consistent rules Neighboring rulers will take advantage of this."
We can see the moral decay of this country over the last thirty years all around us. The types of TV programs, the language on radio talk shows, the "gay pride" marches in major cities, the loss of morals in our schools, attacks on Christianity, legal abortion--on--demand, laws that are totally contrary to what our founding fathers envisioned, courts that punish the victims more than the offenders, activist judges that legislate from the bench, removing mentions of God or the Ten Commandments from prayer and public property and public events, the bogus "war on drugs" that is actually putting more drugs on the street, church leaders that are afraid to preach anything that might offend someone, and on and on.
An unjust and un-moral society is one doomed to extinction. Our founding fathers knew this. History verifies it. And the Chinese study it.
While China is ready to move on Taiwan at any time--theyve positioned huge amphibious forces near the Straights of Formosaand North Korea is ready to move south, the possibility also exists that an entirely different scenario will develop. (Huge tunnels are known to exist that run under the DMZ, and a military "combat town" training facility has been built that exactly depicts downtown Seoul, right down to the street address and shop signs).
In the following scenario, the forces that now surround us "come to our rescue."
Picture this: our military, as strapped as it is, is in Iraq, Afghanistan, and maybe in the near future, Iran. We still have troops in South Korea, Germany and other places. Our national guard and reserves have been deployed overseas. Our law enforcement personnel are stretched thin. And then a major terrorist even--or a series of the--occurs. This event could be detonation of mini-nukes in major cities, release of a biological weapon starting a pandemic, or some other major media event-type attack.
Who do you call for help? Ghostbusters?
The plan is to call upon the UN to provide military, humanitarian and law enforcement relief. The only army big enough to handle a country of this size, with the means to move the personnel, is Red China (backed by Russia and the former Warsaw Pact states that we have been training for such an event at Fort Polk, Louisiana under Operation Cooperative Nugget).
Seem far-fetched? Then know this: a few years ago I had a nephew who attended the Command and Staff College at Fort Leavenworth, Kansas. When his class graduated, a general from the Pentagon flew in to give the graduation speech. When he was introduced, it was mentioned that he was a member of the Council on Foreign Relationswhose mission in life is to develop a one world government (the New World Order) and who were the founders of the United Nations. This particular general stated in his speech that (paraphrasing) "due to the build down of our armed forces, should we be deployed or committed on two or more fronts in the future and a major emergency occurs here, we will be forced to call upon foreign assets to police our streets."
Foreign assets? Who could that be?
Sun Tzu also said that "To subdue the enemy without fighting is the supreme excellence." With no guarded borders, and no one to guard them, and an avowed enemy who tells its military daily that "our main enemy is America," I would have to submit that this country is set up for a major fall, and very soon.
The good news is this: The Second Amendment. The Chinese military is very frustrated in the fact that their liberal socialist lackeys in Washington have not been able to totally disarm the American people--yet. They have, by means of Fabian Socialism (creeping) legislation, reduced our firepower by outlawing "types" of firearm--specifically those that have military application--but have not been able to register for confiscation all the guns in the country like they have in Australia, the UK and Canada. China well knows after its failed expeditions into Vietnam and India that fighting an armed population or a guerrilla type war is not winnable unless you first have the hearts and mind--and cooperation--of the population.
We also have another advantage, one not spoken off but still resident: Our combat veterans. The United States has the largest pool of combat veterans in our population of any country in the world. From our Vietnam generation (who is now in their 40s and 50s and beyond) to our Desert Storm, Somalia, and current Afghanistan and Iraq vets who are no longer serving, we have a cadre base of "trainers and leaders" second to none. When one factors this in, we have to consider that China may wait a few years for more of us to die off. But they wont wait forever. We are a weakened giant, one that has be subverted from within and without, and one considered ripe for the picking. They have to reduce our will to resist, plus our means of resisting before they can hope to "patrol our streets."
While the Chinese currently are reacting to Sun Tzus axiom "Nothing is more difficult than the art of maneuvering for advantageous positions," I would offer another old saying," this one derived from India: "Beware he who rides the tiger, lest he end up inside."
Still, we are at a very dangerous juncture. We are weakened, we have been subverted, and we are surrounded. And every time we buy something made in China, we are helping the enemy.
As the Samurai would say, often as a curse, "we are living in interesting times."
We Are Surrounded
Or, "How Well Do You Speak Chinese?"
By Craig Roberts
Sun Tzu, the ancient Chinese military philosopher who is oft quoted in our military institutions, wrote "One who is not acquainted with the designs of his neighbors should not enter into alliances with them."
This quote surfaced in my consciousness as I walked the aisles of a new Dollar-type store yesterday, picking up items and turning them over to see where they were made. I counted 20 items, of which 19 were made in China, and one in Pakistan. As a WWII baby boomer who grew up during the 50s and 60s, I could not help but shudder in the fact that I was holding items that were made by an avowed enemy, one that along with the former Soviet Union, forced me and my classmates in elementary school and junior high school to practice "Duck and Cover"and quick response to air raid sirens. In those post-war days we had a Civil Defense organization, were encouraged to prepare for a nuclear strike, build fallout shelters, and be ready in case Russia, China, or even Castro came over the horizon. Those days have faded away, but living through the Cold War and the ever-present threat of the bomb will remain with us forever.
Now there is no Civil Defense Corps, the fallout shelters are empty or used for storage, and we are told that the Soviet Union has collapsed, and the Red China is now our trading partner (and Taiwan never mentioned), and the only Barbarians at the Gate are North Korea and certain countries in the Middle East that support terrorist organizations.
However, as a student of history, and a former intelligence analyst, I see another world growing up around us. One the media ignores, the politicians refuse to recognize, and one of which the American people remain ignorant. It is a world in which we are surrounded, being infiltrated, and readied for invasion.
To understand what his happening today, one must understand certain military tenets of warfare. These include:
Infiltrate the enemy country with advance forces and spies.
Pre-position supplies close to the anticipated battleground.
Destroy the enemy's will to resist.
Destroy the enemy populations morals and morale.
Sew confusion among the enemy population
Cut lines of communication
Create diversions
Control all information and media outlets
Attack on many fronts
Destroy the enemy's capability to wage war
Reduce or destroy enemy's military bases
Strike only when ready and when enemy is at his weakest.
In the intelligence world, what we do is take pieces of information, like pieces of a puzzle, and "put them on the wall and see what picture develops." Lord Wellington of Waterloo once said "I've spent my entire military career wondering what the chap on the other side of the hill was doing." In intelligence circles, information gathering is chief among tasks, followed by "okay, what are they up to?"
Let us examine some current "intelligence indicators" and see what picture forms.
Over the last few decades, ever since Nixon went to China in 1972 to open trade relations, we have seen the Communist Chinese grow from a third-rate military force whose strength lay only in numbers to a very modern and well-equipped force ready to do battle on a global scale. Unlike Russia, the Chinese have done this very quietly, trying not to draw attention to their efforts, and with one goal in mind: destroy the United States and any allies. And we have helped them toward that goal. In fact, we continue to help them every day when we buy Chinese-made products. But beyond that, lets examine events that have strengthened Chinas military endeavors while weakening ours:
Carter signed the Canal over to Panama, and now China's "Civilian" ports company, Hutchinson-Whampoa, which has direct links to the PLAN (People's Liberation Army Navy) operates two ports, one on each end of the canal. It has been reported that Chinese males of military age disappear into the hinterlands and later surface in Mexico close to our southern border, and currently our Border Patrol has intercepted border crossers that were not only Mexican, but from all Central American Countries, Islamic groups, and China.
Bill Clinton gave China "most favored nation" trading status, opening our market to cheap slave-labor-made goods, which also destroyed many US companies and costing us jobs by underselling the market with cheap products. At the same time we turned our back on long-time ally, Nationalist China. All of this to "appease" the Red Chinese.
Under the Clinton administration, Loral and Hughes were allowed to sell China missile technology and guidance systems for "communications satellites." Within months we were told that China now bragged about being able to deliver a nuclear warhead to Los Angeles.
Also under the Clinton watch, Chinese spies were discovered at Los Alamos and in other places, some of which stole nuclear secrets for the Peoples Liberation Army. ("All warfare is based on deception. There is no place where espionage is not used. Offer the enemy bait to lure him" Sun Tzu)
While all of this was happening, our southern border was being invaded by illegal aliens to the point that besides Mexicans, we have many reports of Asians, Central Americans, and Middle-easterners coming unhindered into the U.S.
Couple this with COSCO, the China Ocean Shipping Company, which is the Merchant Marine arm of the Chinese Navy, working hand-in-hand with Hutchinson-Whampoa in establishing a huge transshipment center in Freeport, Bahamas, just off the Florida coast. This huge complex contains some of the biggest cranes in the world, plus hundreds upon hundreds of Sealift containers the size of semi-trucks being stored there. When I see this I cant help but think of Diego Garcia, our forward deployment base in the Pacific.
It is well known in the military that the easiest thing to move is troops. The hardest to move is material. You can order troops to march onto a ship or airplane, but it takes forklifts, cranes and manpower to move supplies. By forward deploying your logistics you are already half a battle ahead.
And Freeport is not the only suspect position for Chinese pre-deployment stocks. Reports have surfaced about COSCO ships unloading in Mexico and Canada, plus several ports inside the US itself. A few years back we read of a shipment in a Sealift container that came into Long Beach, California, loaded with automatic AK-47s, machine guns, grenades and explosives. We were told it was intercepted, and that it was probably being smuggled in to street gangs. We may never know of how many other shipments went undetected, and are still being smuggled in and pre-positioned. And not for street gangs!
Add to all this the fact that our own troops have been over-extended, our military suffering a continuing "build down" by base closings, reducing the numbers of aircraft in our squadrons and ships in our fleets, and reduction of war stocks by expenditure without restocking, plus using up our reserves and national guard forces in extended overseas missions, and we have the recipe for disaster. In other words, there ain't no one home watching the chickens, and the wolf is prowling the broken fence line.
There are those who say that China is being influenced by prosperity, and that they are reaping the rewards of capitalism, and because of this have no reason to use military might to forward Mao's version of Communism. These pie-in-the-sky wishers do not understand the Chinese. What we are really doing is financing their military buildups, technology, and monetary base. Those who have forgotten history need to be reminded that we did the same thing in the 1930s when we sold scrap metal to Japan, only to reap the whirlwind when they used our metal in the ships and planes and bombs that attacked Pearl Harbor. Hitler's Germany also prospered from "ree trade" by using our technology in the petroleum industry to manufacture fuels and lubricants by synthetic means. Still, we continue to feed the Chinese dragon and think nothing of where our money goes when we buy those items "Made in China."
While we are looking at the pieces of the puzzle, we also need to add the other pieces that match the tenets of war. Sun Tzu wrote that "Appraise war in terms of the fundamental factors. The first of these factors is moral influence", and also "When a leader is morally weak and his discipline not strict, when there are no consistent rules Neighboring rulers will take advantage of this."
We can see the moral decay of this country over the last thirty years all around us. The types of TV programs, the language on radio talk shows, the "gay pride" marches in major cities, the loss of morals in our schools, attacks on Christianity, legal abortion--on--demand, laws that are totally contrary to what our founding fathers envisioned, courts that punish the victims more than the offenders, activist judges that legislate from the bench, removing mentions of God or the Ten Commandments from prayer and public property and public events, the bogus "war on drugs" that is actually putting more drugs on the street, church leaders that are afraid to preach anything that might offend someone, and on and on.
An unjust and un-moral society is one doomed to extinction. Our founding fathers knew this. History verifies it. And the Chinese study it.
While China is ready to move on Taiwan at any time--theyve positioned huge amphibious forces near the Straights of Formosaand North Korea is ready to move south, the possibility also exists that an entirely different scenario will develop. (Huge tunnels are known to exist that run under the DMZ, and a military "combat town" training facility has been built that exactly depicts downtown Seoul, right down to the street address and shop signs).
In the following scenario, the forces that now surround us "come to our rescue."
Picture this: our military, as strapped as it is, is in Iraq, Afghanistan, and maybe in the near future, Iran. We still have troops in South Korea, Germany and other places. Our national guard and reserves have been deployed overseas. Our law enforcement personnel are stretched thin. And then a major terrorist even--or a series of the--occurs. This event could be detonation of mini-nukes in major cities, release of a biological weapon starting a pandemic, or some other major media event-type attack.
Who do you call for help? Ghostbusters?
The plan is to call upon the UN to provide military, humanitarian and law enforcement relief. The only army big enough to handle a country of this size, with the means to move the personnel, is Red China (backed by Russia and the former Warsaw Pact states that we have been training for such an event at Fort Polk, Louisiana under Operation Cooperative Nugget).
Seem far-fetched? Then know this: a few years ago I had a nephew who attended the Command and Staff College at Fort Leavenworth, Kansas. When his class graduated, a general from the Pentagon flew in to give the graduation speech. When he was introduced, it was mentioned that he was a member of the Council on Foreign Relationswhose mission in life is to develop a one world government (the New World Order) and who were the founders of the United Nations. This particular general stated in his speech that (paraphrasing) "due to the build down of our armed forces, should we be deployed or committed on two or more fronts in the future and a major emergency occurs here, we will be forced to call upon foreign assets to police our streets."
Foreign assets? Who could that be?
Sun Tzu also said that "To subdue the enemy without fighting is the supreme excellence." With no guarded borders, and no one to guard them, and an avowed enemy who tells its military daily that "our main enemy is America," I would have to submit that this country is set up for a major fall, and very soon.
The good news is this: The Second Amendment. The Chinese military is very frustrated in the fact that their liberal socialist lackeys in Washington have not been able to totally disarm the American people--yet. They have, by means of Fabian Socialism (creeping) legislation, reduced our firepower by outlawing "types" of firearm--specifically those that have military application--but have not been able to register for confiscation all the guns in the country like they have in Australia, the UK and Canada. China well knows after its failed expeditions into Vietnam and India that fighting an armed population or a guerrilla type war is not winnable unless you first have the hearts and mind--and cooperation--of the population.
We also have another advantage, one not spoken off but still resident: Our combat veterans. The United States has the largest pool of combat veterans in our population of any country in the world. From our Vietnam generation (who is now in their 40s and 50s and beyond) to our Desert Storm, Somalia, and current Afghanistan and Iraq vets who are no longer serving, we have a cadre base of "trainers and leaders" second to none. When one factors this in, we have to consider that China may wait a few years for more of us to die off. But they wont wait forever. We are a weakened giant, one that has be subverted from within and without, and one considered ripe for the picking. They have to reduce our will to resist, plus our means of resisting before they can hope to "patrol our streets."
While the Chinese currently are reacting to Sun Tzus axiom "Nothing is more difficult than the art of maneuvering for advantageous positions," I would offer another old saying," this one derived from India: "Beware he who rides the tiger, lest he end up inside."
Still, we are at a very dangerous juncture. We are weakened, we have been subverted, and we are surrounded. And every time we buy something made in China, we are helping the enemy.
As the Samurai would say, often as a curse, "we are living in interesting times."
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I agree, we are being sold out by the liberal politicians! Bill Clinton was all in favor of the North American Free Trade Act (NAFTA), but the Republicans are just a s bad. George W. Bush is an ardent supporter of NAFTA as well. When will the politicians realize that the people in this country want their jobs. when will they realize that without jobs there will be no one to pay taxes?
In all reality the consumer is the only person who pays taxes. Sure, you can tax corporations all you want, but they pass the taxes along in the price of their goods and in the end the person who buys the product is the one who pays the tax.
When will they realize that people on welfare don't pay taxes?
As for buying goods made in China, I try not to. About the only thing I buy at Wal-mart are soft drinks, toilet paper, soap & dog food. Most everything else that they sell is made in China, even some of their candy. :barf:
Bob does make a good point of the computers- try and find one that is not made in China. :thumbdn:
I do not believe in slavery and yet China uses the slave labor of prisoners to make products for export. How can the politicians of America support this? How can American companies support this. I think it all boils down to one simple word: GREED. The politicians want the support of big business, big business wants MONEY, and the American consumer wants cheap stuff. The slave labor in China makes them all happy.
OK, enough of my political soap box.
Y'all have a nice weekend,
Dale
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now, my khukris are made in nepal. i figure that's fair, as there are no such makers in the usa, nor china
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