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Camillus Closed
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Do you have documentation that the knives are your property? If so, a lawyer and the Sherriff should be able to help you. Otherwise I assume they are in posession of the bank now and will end up being sold at the bancrupcy auction.
Best Wishes, and I hope you get your knives back,
-Bob
Well leave it the Union loving liberals of New York who maanged to kill off another American company.
Feeding your workers a steady diet of hatred for your company, organizing strikes, and allowing union bosses to fan the flames of decent finally killed off the company that has turned Camillus New York into a ghost town.
It is sad that there will be no more scout knives from this company.
Feeding your workers a steady diet of hatred for your company, organizing strikes, and allowing union bosses to fan the flames of decent finally killed off the company that has turned Camillus New York into a ghost town.
It is sad that there will be no more scout knives from this company.
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Maybe you have some documentation, shipping slips or some contractual evidence... process might go faster in a small claims court perhaps?
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Hi Jerry!
So sorry to hear you lost the knives, not to mention the royalties owed you.
It is probably worth your lawyer sending a letter in, but it is such a mess, & I expect there are a lot of letters! :jerkit:
Give me a call & we can discuss your other options.
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Phil and others. No documentation. Jim and I talked about the designs, he said just send them on. When called later he said they had misplaced them so I sent another set plus another design. its gone then. I have nothing to show where I sent or where he requested it. Just handshake.
I was never paid for the Sendero prototype either.
I was never paid for the Sendero prototype either.
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Sorry to hear that Jerry.
However...........
I & at least 3 other folks can testify they WERE sent in by you for us to borrow to aid us in the engineering.
I am pretty sure Jim Furgal would confirm for us.
You don't need UPS reciepts for this.
However...........
I & at least 3 other folks can testify they WERE sent in by you for us to borrow to aid us in the engineering.
I am pretty sure Jim Furgal would confirm for us.
You don't need UPS reciepts for this.
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I hope you got a good crew to tell you their story. If not, come on guys, nows the time to speak your mind!
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Just heard about the Camillus closing. This is absolutely horrible! Another great american knife company gone! Kudos to the folks who worked at Camillus. You people did a great job! They were always pleasant and always went the extra mile to help and assist their customers whether large or small.
They will be sadly missed by every present and former military person, boy and girl scout and every other user of their products. I hope they don't go the way of Schrade with a new owner and continuing manufacturing in shit hole China, then ship the crap back to the U.S. for us to buy. New Schrade knives suck! American manufacturers that close down in the U.S. and move manufacturing overseas and leave their loyal U.S. employess without jobs shold not be allowed to sell their or ship those products back into this country. You make them in China or some 4th world country, them let your new found buddies buy the shit. Sell a shit load of them to your board of directors too. My old Vietnam Camillus knives mean just that must more to me now. BUY AMERICAN !!!!!!!!!!!
They will be sadly missed by every present and former military person, boy and girl scout and every other user of their products. I hope they don't go the way of Schrade with a new owner and continuing manufacturing in shit hole China, then ship the crap back to the U.S. for us to buy. New Schrade knives suck! American manufacturers that close down in the U.S. and move manufacturing overseas and leave their loyal U.S. employess without jobs shold not be allowed to sell their or ship those products back into this country. You make them in China or some 4th world country, them let your new found buddies buy the shit. Sell a shit load of them to your board of directors too. My old Vietnam Camillus knives mean just that must more to me now. BUY AMERICAN !!!!!!!!!!!
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A little correction here. Imperial Schrade does not have a new owner. The company went into bankruptcy dissolution, all assets were sold at auction to the highest bidder. No one bought the company. The trademarks and patents were bought as a package by the high bidder, Stewart Taylor, representing Taylor Cutlery, Taylor Brands Limited Liability Company. TBLLC is not a manufacturer. They are an importer / wholesaler, and have contracted with the Chinese to produce knives for them with the Schrade trademarks and patents. There is no Schrade company. There are no new Imperial Schrade knives. Only Chinese knives imported by TBLLC with the Schrade name on them.
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they also have bear & son doing some walden knives -made in the usa-
im a union worker-and i can tell you right now,its alot better than non union work ive done-that rant about the union workers killing camillus by a 1 post pt might have been from a camillus boss-i guess the union stole that 5 million from the pension-guy is a twitt
im a union worker-and i can tell you right now,its alot better than non union work ive done-that rant about the union workers killing camillus by a 1 post pt might have been from a camillus boss-i guess the union stole that 5 million from the pension-guy is a twitt
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Codger,
Sorry, I stand corrected. But it is still IMHO, a degrading of the Schrade name and quality of what they once produced. Let the Chinese buy them all.
Sorry, I stand corrected. But it is still IMHO, a degrading of the Schrade name and quality of what they once produced. Let the Chinese buy them all.
i guess the union stole that 5 million from the pension-Quote from rosconey2
On another forum (knifetalkforums.com) a monitor quoted a newspaper story about the Camillus employees losing their jobs. He meant to show compassion for them by telling the story. Unfortunately, members started replying with comments about unions being the cause. After three or four of them, I asked only this question. "Did the union take the 5 million that was stolen from the pension fund? " That really set them off. Even a second monitor joined in on the attack. After I was called a number of names and was accused of being a doper, I thanked the monitor for trying to do a good deed and told him to cancel my membership. It was clear that most of them were business owners and some sellers of Chinese knives. I advise everyone to buy as many American made knives as you can. The fix is in.
On another forum (knifetalkforums.com) a monitor quoted a newspaper story about the Camillus employees losing their jobs. He meant to show compassion for them by telling the story. Unfortunately, members started replying with comments about unions being the cause. After three or four of them, I asked only this question. "Did the union take the 5 million that was stolen from the pension fund? " That really set them off. Even a second monitor joined in on the attack. After I was called a number of names and was accused of being a doper, I thanked the monitor for trying to do a good deed and told him to cancel my membership. It was clear that most of them were business owners and some sellers of Chinese knives. I advise everyone to buy as many American made knives as you can. The fix is in.
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I saw this diatribe on the Syracuse newspaper's discussion forum. I am not a union member, never have been and not likely to ever be. But the union did not cause this mess. A list of woes, missteps, and mismanagement by a gaggle of people caused it. Hell, you might as well blame the dead guy for getting in the way of the bullet! Or the band for staying on the Titanic!
Sorry. I feel better now. In truth, Camillus had been on this path for quite a few years, at least prior to 2003/04. If anything, the employees and working management deserve nothing but our admiration and support for staying the course as long as they did, in spite of it all. There is not "A" reason for the bankruptcy and closing, just as there was not with Schrade. There was a long list. And I don't think the employees will be on that list.
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Sorry. I feel better now. In truth, Camillus had been on this path for quite a few years, at least prior to 2003/04. If anything, the employees and working management deserve nothing but our admiration and support for staying the course as long as they did, in spite of it all. There is not "A" reason for the bankruptcy and closing, just as there was not with Schrade. There was a long list. And I don't think the employees will be on that list.
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Sad news indeed!
I've been putting off picking up a couple of the "Yello-Jaket" pocketknives.
Decided to go for it today since it appears some of the retailers are starting to run low on their inventory.
This way, I can give my future son/daughter a real Camillus knife when he/she is old enough.
Best wishes to all the great people who used to work at Camillus!
Regards,
Mike
I've been putting off picking up a couple of the "Yello-Jaket" pocketknives.
Decided to go for it today since it appears some of the retailers are starting to run low on their inventory.
This way, I can give my future son/daughter a real Camillus knife when he/she is old enough.
Best wishes to all the great people who used to work at Camillus!
Regards,
Mike
Maybe if some people learned to have open minds on a great many aspects of life, they would see that not all things are created equal.
To see that the record is set straight - Camillus was not all union that ran it to the ground.. they only played an unforseen part in it. It was not until certain crucial parts in the puzzle that were subtley played out that it was becoming aparent that Camillus was coming to an end, just when was the question.
As stated many atimes in previous threads - open your eyes and ears and you will be suprised at what you can read between the lines. One or many have to learn to stand strong and fight for the truth and their rights in order to keep their jobs and justice to retain AMERICAN made products (COMPANIES).
It bears repeating - If you don't buy AMERICAN there goes a job and a company in AMERICA.
Try to be a fly on the wall or just listen to an inconspicious conversation sometime, you will be surprised at what you can learn. It is how you use that information that will make or break decisions. JUST LEARN TO USE THAT INFORMATION WISELY!!!!
To see that the record is set straight - Camillus was not all union that ran it to the ground.. they only played an unforseen part in it. It was not until certain crucial parts in the puzzle that were subtley played out that it was becoming aparent that Camillus was coming to an end, just when was the question.
As stated many atimes in previous threads - open your eyes and ears and you will be suprised at what you can read between the lines. One or many have to learn to stand strong and fight for the truth and their rights in order to keep their jobs and justice to retain AMERICAN made products (COMPANIES).
It bears repeating - If you don't buy AMERICAN there goes a job and a company in AMERICA.
Try to be a fly on the wall or just listen to an inconspicious conversation sometime, you will be surprised at what you can learn. It is how you use that information that will make or break decisions. JUST LEARN TO USE THAT INFORMATION WISELY!!!!
observerq, you're right. It's hard for people to believe that there are certain people that have made the destroying of a company into a profession. When that person has already destroyed other companies, people wonder why they were hired to run another company. They did it well. They then set out to blame unions, banks, anyone, so they can move on to another victim.
While they are in the process they will do things such as importing to make it appear that they are trying to save the company. They must find it funny when the money they are wasting on such fakery is coming out of the pockets of the workers. i.e. pension fund. It is all part of the corporate scam.
While they are in the process they will do things such as importing to make it appear that they are trying to save the company. They must find it funny when the money they are wasting on such fakery is coming out of the pockets of the workers. i.e. pension fund. It is all part of the corporate scam.