Can you recommend me a fixed blade based on these requirements?

James0273
I'd love a Busse knife, I'm sure it's high quality, but I don't think the asking price is anywhere near fair. You're paying for the image and the hype around the knife, not the substance.
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I feel you are a victim of the resale antics that go with the Busse brand. The Busse knives are competitively priced from the manufacturer for what your getting. It's the people who purchase several and resell them at a massive increase because of the supply and demand predicament. Busse has little control over that. You do need to shop around be prepared to pounce when a good deal presents itself. Jerry Busse is a member and moderator here on Blade Forums and is a real stand up fella. Don't let the people trying to turn a buck on his excellent work sway from owning an outstanding blade...;)
 
Ankerson said:
You can order a new Busse direct from them for $287.95 right now, that's the standard Combat Grade Tank Buster. You can pick your options, some cost more, but you can Taylor the knife to your liking. Lots of options, color combos etc. Their current turn around time is about 3 weeks sense they are in production currently.
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But if I want the non-coated satin finish blade I have to pay $100 extra, by contrast, Fehrman knives offers a satin finish on their biggest 9.5 inch blade knife for $60 more. Now the Tank Buster only has a 6 inch blade, so can you explain to me why it costs $40 more to put a satin finish on a significantly smaller blade?
 
babakanoosh45 said:
It's the people who purchase several and resell them at a massive increase because of the supply and demand predicament. Busse has little control over that.
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Without getting into a complete mess of an argument, this isn't true. Basic business will confirm that.

They do have control, they can alter the delivery to the market, BUT doing so would hurt their sales and mystique, so it would be stupid for them to do otherwise.
 
James0723 said:
But if I want the non-coated satin finish blade I have to pay $100 extra, by contrast, Fehrman knives offers a satin finish on their biggest 9.5 inch blade knife for $60 more. Now the Tank Buster only has a 6 inch blade, so can you explain to me why it costs $40 more to put a satin finish on a significantly smaller blade?
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They are not the same at all, you really can't compare Fehrman to Busse as they aren't even in the same league. ;)

The TB's blade is really 6 1/2" by my measurement.

You would have to handle both really and use them BOTH to make an informed decision. :)
 
Ankerson said:
They are not the same at all, you really can't compare Fehrman to Busse as they aren't even in the same league. ;)

The TB's blade is really 6 1/2" by my measurement.

You would have to handle both really and use them BOTH to make an informed decision. :)
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I don't think that's a satisfactory answer. Why is one company charging $40 more to put a satin finish on a smaller blade? Putting on a satin finish, assuming the blades are the same size, is the same exact process and has the same amount of work involved.

Also Fehrman lowers the price of the satin finish according to blade size. If we compare the Tank Buster to the closest sized Fehrman knife, the price of the satin finish on the Busse is actually $60 more.
 
James0723 said:
I don't think that's a satisfactory answer. Why is one company charging $40 more to put a satin finish on a smaller blade? Putting on a satin finish, assuming the blades are the same size, is the same exact process and has the same amount of work involved.

Also Fehrman lowers the price of the satin finish according to blade size. If we compare the Tank Buster to the closest sized Fehrman knife, the price of the satin finish on the Busse is actually $60 more.
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It was really..... ;)

I am not going to trash Fehrman, but the steel they use has been proven not to hold up as well as INFI in independent testing. Fit and Finish is better on Busse.

Like I said before they are NOT in the same league.

You are paying for performance and quality.
 
Ankerson said:
I was really..... ;)

I am not going to trash Fehrman, but the steel they use has been proven not to hold up as well as INFI in independent testing. Fit and Finish is better on Busse.

Like I said before they are NOT in the same league.

You are paying for performance and quality.
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The only bad thing I've read about Fehrman is the review on cutleryscience.com, which I have doubts about the objectivity of.

I've read things written on these forums by people who own both, among the people who own both the consensus seems to be that they're mostly equal with some people preferring one or the other slightly more. The satin finish costing so much more on the Busse has made up my mind. Both INFI and CPM-3V are tool steels, it's the same amount of work to put a satin finish on each. Regardless of the quality of the knives, a satin finish is a satin finish. I've seen both and there's no difference that I can see in the finishes, they both look the same.
 
James0723 said:
The only bad thing I've read about Fehrman is the review on cutleryscience.com, which I have doubts about the objectivity of.

I've read things written on these forums by people who own both, among the people who own both the consensus seems to be that they're mostly equal with some people preferring one or the other slightly more. The satin finish costing so much more on the Busse has made up my mind. Both INFI and CPM-3V are tool steels, it's the same amount of work to put a satin finish on each. Regardless of the quality of the knives, a satin finish is a satin finish. I've seen both and there's no difference that I can see in the finishes, they both look the same.
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Like I said you would have to try both and make up your mind.

When you are talking knives in this price range $50 or so really isn't a big difference.

Opinions do vary though depending on each persons opinion, some like the feel of the Busse better, I would say most really.

It a feel thing, how they feel in your hand when using them along with really using both hard. I have personally, but it's really up to you as it's your money.
 
James0723 said:
But see, if they're overcharging for the satin finish that's an indication to me that they're overcharging for the entire package.
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They really aren't because INFI is VERY expensive proprietary steel and it costs a lot to process it. :)
 
wongKI said:
How about you just get a RC or a HI?
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I have a bunch of HI knives (13 to be exact) and they are great, but I think he is looking for a different more standard knife, not a Khurki. :thumbup:
 
I like the northern Lights series from Fallkniven ... Particularly the NL3 Njord "6 or Fallkniven NL2 Odin 7+" would be an excellent choice. I have a smaller one and it is very well made. Beautiful satin finish and a nice convex blade - VG10 in the center keeps it sharp and softer steel on the outside keeps it strong because it can flex. It goes fishin with me.

That being said, Busse makes awesome knives. Period. The so called "hype" is created by people who buy the knives, not so much the company. These people, me included, love these knives. Sure, some of it is image, and yes, some like to put their knives on a mantle - and that's ok too - but most of the hype is based on no-nonsense performance and amazing design. Which means it's not hype. In fact, the folks who use these knives would be the first to speak up if they didn't do the job and do it well. And that's why some identify so strongly with the Busse brand. These knives are at the top of the food chain - and the people who own them have no problem letting you know it - as you can attest to. So if you buy a Busse, you join the family.

By the way, I own a bunch of custom folders that cost double my Strider PT CC and every day before i go to work, i reach for the Strider.
 
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I own both a Fehrman and Busse. Both are excellent knives, both are more "knife" than I will ever need in my humble existence. I dont need to test them to the extent of near destruction I just know that the knife will be around longer than me :) You said yourself you'd love a Busse, get one fella. Get the cheapest one you possibly can, it'll be worth it if for nothing else but to change your mind about the brand. But if not you have plenty of other solid brands to work with now :)
 
Ankerson said:
It was really..... ;)

I am not going to trash Fehrman, but the steel they use has been proven not to hold up as well as INFI in independent testing. Fit and Finish is better on Busse.

Like I said before they are NOT in the same league.

You are paying for performance and quality.
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I don't see many previous posts about Fehrman's from you, do you own any? You're post about "proof" alludes to you comparing your personal Busse use to "independent testing" which is vastly different than PERSONAL use...how is that different?

Ankerson said:
They are not the same at all, you really can't compare Fehrman to Busse as they aren't even in the same league. ;)

You would have to handle both really and use them BOTH to make an informed decision. :)
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I'm not convinced that you have handled or used both.

Ankerson said:
They really aren't because INFI is VERY expensive proprietary steel and it costs a lot to process it. :)
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First off, as I recently learned, INFI's composition isnt THAT obscure...the processing I can't comment on.

And on a bit of a tangent, a Satin finish should cost less than a coated blade in most cases.
 
James0723 said:
I don't want a Busse because I dislike the marketing.
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Is this where you base your decision in order to decide about the performance and the overall quality of a knife? Please!!!

I'm sure they're fine knives, but from what I've seen companies that are intensely into marketing tend to be overpriced.
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Are you sure that Busse knives are intensely into marketing? What marketing are you referring to? Through which communication channel?
I've been watching for more than 25 years now pretty much every cutlery magazine that has been publiced in the U.S.A. and I can attest that this is not the case. Are you referring to the marketing on their website? Well, that's what they are supposed to do on THEIR website! Are you referring to the marketing on their subforum here on the Bladeforums? Again, this is THEIR subforum! What did you expect the company to do? Trash their products?


Busse to me is in the same category as MercWorx, Cold Steel, Stryder, and Dark Ops with the way their marketing is.
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Why do you say that? In what way exactly are they in the same category? Which category is that?

I especially dislike the nuclear logo and titles. I'm not a tree hugging hippie, but I like hunting and nature and nuclear waste isn't something I want to have associated with my knives.
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Which Busse knife did you see with a nuclear logo on? Where do you see the nuclear sign on the Busse knives home page?
 
J_Curd said:
First off, as I recently learned, INFI's composition isnt THAT obscure...the processing I can't comment on.
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The key element is in the heat treatment protocol. This is, to a great extent what drives the cost so high up. Without it, even the most exotic steel is worthless.
 
James0723 said:
I think to myself, Busse is so intense into the marketing so how do we know all their claims about INFI steel being so good isn't just more of the marketing hype?
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You may want to cast a glance at the video in this post and then think again about your comment quoted above. Do you see any hype here?

There are numerous testimonies like this on the web. Do you really think that EVERYONE who invests their hard-earned dollars in a Busse (or, two or, three or, more) has been bewitched by the "Busse hype"? This is not the case; Busse knives are real performers of the top league! That's all there is to it!

Will you buy a Busse knife? It's really none of my business. After all, it is your money and you will spend it as you deem fit. Should you spend it on a Busse? Can't tell, as it is still your money. If however, you want my opinion and take my word for it, there are few steels that I don't have a knife from, then I say yes, go ahead and do it. You will not regret it; as a matter of fact, you'll be happy you did.
Furtermore, in the case that you need to turn to their customer service, you will experience first hand that they offer unmatched support.
 
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