Carbon Fiber, Composite Blade, 0560.

Newb question. I'm not familiar with S110V. How does it compare to the original Elmax?
 
Excuse my ignorance, but what are the benefits to having a composite blade? Why not make the whole blade out of S110V?
 
shqxk said:
Aside from beauty, the blade composition increase toughness to the whole blade.

http://www.thekershawstore.com/Kershaw-Composite-Knives-s/206.htm
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Yeah no.

Its a gimmick. A feature to set apart the brand. Supposedly keeps cost down as opposed to making the whole blade from the higher end steel, but I cant imagine its more cost effective to attach a cheap steel to an expensive steel rather than just making the whole blade from the expensive steel.
It does look cool, dont try to make it out to be more than it is though.

That said, I must have this 0560. An amazing looking knife.
 
HKBM45 said:
Yeah no.

Its a gimmick. A feature to set apart the brand. Supposedly keeps cost down as opposed to making the whole blade from the higher end steel, but I cant imagine its more cost effective to attach a cheap steel to an expensive steel rather than just making the whole blade from the expensive steel.
It does look cool, dont try to make it out to be more than it is though.

That said, I must have this 0560. An amazing looking knife.
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Probably what you said, but IMO it make sense to composite harder/fragile blade to the softer/tougher spine in order to increase impact resistance to the blade. Just like the Japanese katana making process.

And i don't think the composition of 2 steel will really reduce the cost. The real expensive procedure should be the manufacturing not materials.
 
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Right now the Composite blade process makes sense in that some steel types are in short supply (like, Vanax 75 and CPM S110V), just by using the composite blade you can probably get twice as many knives out of the same amount of steel.
When using stuff like CPM D-2 it makes a lot of sense, since you get to make the spine and pivot stainless, but have a tool steel edge (or you could go the other way around just for aesthetic reasons).
 
michaelm466 said:
Not as tough, but it's all about edge retention, think above and beyond S90V or M390
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Why would ELMAX be tougher than S110V?
S110V has a bit of tungsten and 3% niobium, both of which increase toughness, Elmax has none. You are correct S110V is extremely wear resistant.
 
Joshua J. said:
Right now the Composite blade process makes sense in that some steel types are in short supply (like, Vanax 75 and CPM S110V), just by using the composite blade you can probably get twice as many knives out of the same amount of steel.
When using stuff like CPM D-2 it makes a lot of sense, since you get to make the spine and pivot stainless, but have a tool steel edge (or you could go the other way around just for aesthetic reasons).
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Being able to make more knives is the most important part to me. It's basically the same end result as a San Mai samurai sword construction. A hard wear resistant edge and a softer ductile spine. With the benefit of creating a cool shaped imatation hamon line.
 
tacdriver22mk2 said:
the only thing i can think of to out do this is to krein it oops i mean krein it... but then the composite ooohhh so many thoughts darn you thomas i wont be able to sleep untill well after i own one ... ok two ... well four ... but then seven is my lucky number ... but my little league number was eleven soo ...
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This. Imo, ffg grind on that knife with that steel would be fantabulous.
 
bluejayburly said:
Why would ELMAX be tougher than S110V?
S110V has a bit of tungsten and 3% niobium, both of which increase toughness, Elmax has none. You are correct S110V is extremely wear resistant.
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S110V has no tungsten in it, FYI.

S110V should be tougher than S90V due to colbalt and niobium, but it would not any tougher than Elmax, the more alloy content never mean to be tougher, as you can see, carbon steel are tougher than any stainless avialable.


Really wanna know when this grail gonna put on the market, 2013 may be?
 
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