"Carl's Lounge" (Off-Topic Discussion, Traditional Knife "Tales & Vignettes")

[Just Tom.]

I wonder how it was cocked to fire.

I wonder if pulling the trigger lever down from the handle didn’t cock it. It looks like there may be a little tab on it, so maybe you were pulling against spring tension

 

[afishhunter]

Or maybe it was carried unloaded and opening it to load a cartridge cocked it and dropped the trigger when it was closed?

 

[Jack Black]

This self-defence pistol was designed to be worn at the rear of the belt, and fired with the aid of a cord, if the wearer was attacked from behind!

 

[knarfeng]

Lips. Do not unpurse.

 

[Storm 8593]

Lips. Do not unpurse.

Aww, go on, let us know how you feel. Does no good to bottle these things up

 

[meako]

This self-defence pistol was designed to be worn at the rear of the belt, and fired with the aid of a cord, if the wearer was attacked from behind!

I admire the imagination that came up with this....but just to kick the insanity over the edge I'm betting the same or possibly a rival company marketed a hardened steel truss/ jockstrap to be worn by the "attacker" to protect them from the bullet. Beware of cheap imitations......and gun toting maniacs.

 

[Jack Black]

I admire the imagination that came up with this....but just to kick the insanity over the edge I'm betting the same or possibly a rival company marketed a hardened steel truss/ jockstrap to be worn by the "attacker" to protect them from the bullet. Beware of cheap imitations......and gun toting maniacs.

Apparently, quite a few were made, and sold to those who feared being garrotted! That example is from the Royal Armouries Museum

 

[waynorth]

This self-defence pistol was designed to be worn at the rear of the belt, and fired with the aid of a cord, if the wearer was attacked from behind!

Reminds me of my niece, Emma!! Star of her Lacrosse team 7-8 years ago, she ran across the the front of the net, leading the goalie, and with a quick flick scored into the net, behind her back, and the goalie !!!!!

 

[Just Tom.]

(1917)

 

[Jack Black]

Reminds me of my niece, Emma!! Star of her Lacrosse team 7-8 years ago, she ran across the the front of the net, leading the goalie, and with a quick flick scored into the net, behind her back, and the goalie !!!!!

 

[screened porch]

Apparently, quite a few were made, and sold to those who feared being garrotted! That example is from the Royal Armouries Museum

Being garrotted was a major scare, according to my Victorian Underworld book. Even though there was no garrotte used and most victims survived, if memoriy serves.

 

[Jack Black]

Being garrotted was a major scare, according to my Victorian Underworld book. Even though there was no garrotte used and most victims survived, if memoriy serves.

That's what it says at the Armouries too Jer

 

[screened porch]

I know the lambsfoot is a little out of the period.

{I found the book, just like that!)

 

[Jack Black]

I know the lambsfoot is a little out of the period.

{I found the book, just like that!)

A fascinating text Jer I think people don't commonly understand that most crimes of violence during this period, involved blunt instruments, rather than sharp ones. Did you know that the records from the Old Bailey have been online for the past few years?

 

[screened porch]

Did you know that the records from the Old Bailey have been online for the past few years?

No. That's very cool.
I believe the slungshot is what I was trying to evoke with my odd sock above. A swivel-gun sized cannon-ball in a stocking, that can be thrown a short distance and retained for another cast.

I think people don't commonly understand that most crimes of violence during this period, involved blunt instruments, rather than sharp ones.

In Goodbye to All That, Robert Graves says something like, the Germans preferred the Bowie knife for its silence, but our men inclined to the cosh.
I don't know that that's related, though.
It would have made sense, in the days before washing machines and showers, to do your extralegal violence without getting blood all over you.

 

[Just Tom.]

{I found the book, just like that!)

crimes of violence during this period, involved blunt instruments, rather than sharp ones.

You gentlemen’s familiarity with this subject matter is a little disturbing….

 

[Johnnythefox]

Back in the era this was made a lot of revolvers and derringers had drop down/folding triggers, that were folded and couldn't be pulled until the hammer was at full cock. This was obviously striker fired. I wonder how it was cocked to fire.

Considering the size, weight, and grip, I'd guess the recoil and muzzle blast from even a .22 short would not have been pleasant. If it chambered and fired the .22 long rifle ... I'd not want to shoot it without wearing at least a tight fitting leather gardening glove or full finger cycling glove ... and ear plugs ...
Barrel a fraction of an inch longer than the cartridge? I'll guess with the .22 short there were more than a few ungloved hands burned shooting this. Heck, even the then common (now rare) .22CB or BB caps muzzle blast may have caused burns.

we weren't allowed to wear gloves when shooting even if it was -20c they said we couldn't feel the trigger proper otherwise.
The fact our hands where frozen and couldnt move at all didnt come into it,no ear defenders either.
Typical Army logic, its no wonder we are all death,arthritic,backs and knees gone south.
I do miss the punch in the shoulder from a SLR 7.62 with the gas plug set high and the thwack though.

Edit plug not pug and a smile

 

[Jack Black]

No. That's very cool.
I believe the slungshot is what I was trying to evoke with my odd sock above. A swivel-gun sized cannon-ball in a stocking, that can be thrown a short distance and retained for another cast.

Slungshots are quite devastating. You should check out that book by Escobar, a gift I received from our friend Cambertree

In Goodbye to All That, Robert Graves says something like, the Germans preferred the Bowie knife for its silence, but our men inclined to the cosh.
I don't know that that's related, though.
It would have made sense, in the days before washing machines and showers, to do your extralegal violence without getting blood all over you.

Interesting Jer, and that's an interesting point. I remember J jackknife saying, after reading a number of books about Naval warfare during the Napoleonic period, that for boarding parties, the ordinary seaman preferred a belay pin to a cutlass or boarding axe, and the reason is the same as for the footpad: When facing an armed, or potentially armed opponent, a well-aimed concussive blow can quickly take them out of the fight, whereas even heavily wounded (with a sharp instrument), they are still dangerous, and still capable of wounding or killing in reprisal. Sandbags, slungshots, and coshes were carried by both sides during the US Civil War, even when other weapons were certainly available

You gentlemen’s familiarity with this subject matter is a little disturbing….

Just a love of history Tom

we weren't allowed to wear gloves when shooting even if it was -20c they said we couldn't feel the trigger proper otherwise.
The fact our hands where frozen and couldnt move at all didnt come into it,no ear defenders either.
Typical Army logic, its no wonder we are all death,arthritic,backs and knees gone south.

I'm amazed that I still seem to have all my hearing!

I do miss the punch in the shoulder from a SLR 7.62 with the gas pug set high and the thwack though.

Did you ever fire rifle grenades (with the gas tube locked off)?! Funny what you miss

 

[screened porch]

You gentlemen’s familiarity with this subject matter is a little disturbing….

I've always had a keen interest in not being killed.

 

[sf fanatic]

Slungshots are quite devastating. You should check out that book by Escobar, a gift I received from our friend Cambertree

Interesting Jer, and that's an interesting point. I remember J jackknife saying, after reading a number of books about Naval warfare during the Napoleonic period, that for boarding parties, the ordinary seaman preferred a belay pin to a cutlass or boarding axe, and the reason is the same as for the footpad: When facing an armed, or potentially armed opponent, a well-aimed concussive blow can quickly take them out of the fight, whereas even heavily wounded (with a sharp instrument), they are still dangerous, and still capable of wounding or killing in reprisal. Sandbags, slungshots, and coshes were carried by both sides during the US Civil War, even when other weapons were certainly available

Just a love of history Tom

I'm amazed that I still seem to have all my hearing!

Did you ever fire rifle grenades (with the gas tube locked off)?! Funny what you miss

Love the massage therapy tools! Have a few myself .