Carothers and Guns

Big DJ said:
I love my bolt guns.
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M67 said:
For the recent lever gun love
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Was going to leave it alone. Now I feel like have to pipe up.
I really do love them too.
Still don’t own an AR style weapon.
Shot them. And man, what a cool platform, but with a long gun, it’s a bolt or lever for now.
(that is a super slick weapon M67 M67 )
 
tinfoil hat timmy said:
I think one day a person will be able to purchase a suppressor much more easily.
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We’re getting close on 100 years of the NFA and then in thing that’s changed really in that regard, was the Hughes Amendment in 86. I just really have my doubts anything will ever change with silencers and I hate saying it, the Hughes Amendment as well

Buying a NFA item really isn’t hard if your state allows them, it’s generally fairly easy if your dealer does their part. Usually the only thing an end user should have to do would be sign their name on the form 4, get finger printed (which dealers are doing a lot more now), and mail off the forms

Efiling has made the process a little less intimidating for new NFA buyers, but you won’t get a physical tax stamp on your form
 
tinfoil hat timmy said:
I think one day a person will be able to purchase a suppressor much more easily.
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I seriously doubt that. Too many people are confused with gun parts as it is and the Hollywood stigma of suppressors reporting as a little girly voiced “pew pew” when the person is executed at point blank range won’t leave the minds in the unknowing masses of naive scaredy cats.
 
M67 said:
We’re getting close on 100 years of the NFA and then in thing that’s changed really in that regard, was the Hughes Amendment in 86. I just really have my doubts anything will ever change with silencers and I hate saying it, the Hughes Amendment as well

Buying a NFA item really isn’t hard if your state allows them, it’s generally fairly easy if your dealer does their part. Usually the only thing an end user should have to do would be sign their name on the form 4, get finger printed (which dealers are doing a lot more now), and mail off the forms

Efiling has made the process a little less intimidating for new NFA buyers, but you won’t get a physical tax stamp on your form
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Agreed. Silencer shop already makes it pretty easy. You can even set up a firearms trust through them.
 
tinfoil hat timmy said:
I think one day a person will be able to purchase a suppressor much more easily.
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tinfoil hat timmy tinfoil hat timmy Seems to me you're on to something.
They have made very easy to conceal a weapon in Montana.
And im no federal law scholar here sitting in a stall barn office, but by the seat of my pants; it quite possibly could be the next step these days (for parties willing and able to pursue those ends) that they may be able to achieve what they set their minds to.
 
Jsega51 said:
I seriously doubt that. Too many people are confused with gun parts as it is and the Hollywood stigma of suppressors reporting as a little girly voiced “pew pew” when the person is executed at point blank range won’t leave the minds in the unknowing masses of naive scaredy cats.
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Yup.

How many decades did it take before switchblade bans finally began to be repealed? All because Hollywood caused a scare about dancing kids with switchblades.

Silly Hollywood tropes drive a lot of idiocy.
 
bluemax_1 said:
Silly Hollywood tropes drive a lot of idiocy.
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As do the sub-mentals who run the ATF.

It's bizarre to me that in much of Europe, shooting with a suppressor is highly encouraged. Yet in the U.S, with far more permissive gun ownership laws, suppressors are this scary thing that needs to be controlled, and that I need to pay a useless agency a "tax" in order to own.
 
Smithhammer said:
As do the sub-mentals who run the ATF.

It's bizarre to me that in much of Europe, shooting with a suppressor is highly encouraged. Yet in the U.S, with far more permissive gun ownership laws, suppressors are this scary thing that needs to be controlled, and that I need to pay a useless agency a "tax" in order to own.
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Yup. It's crazy that in many countries in the EU, suppressors are simple over the counter purchases, but the country with more firearms in private hands than most other nation's armies, makes people jump through a bunch of hoops to get one.

As mentioned, Hollywood definitely doesn't help the uneducated imbeciles making the rules, when they continue pushing silly tropes like the John Wick movies with super secret assassins strolling through throngs of people, shooting at each other with their pfft, pfft silencers while everyone around them is completely oblivious.

Surprised lawmakers haven't banned katanas, seeing as they can easily slice through everything from marble columns, to heavy chains, shotguns, rifles, vehicles and what-not 🙄
 
And yet I just watched a police officer on Live on Patrol in CA reading a law regarding ‘assault weapons’ which includes any semiautomatic with detachable magazine and threaded barrel. A friggin threaded barrel is now illegal even though it can have nothing attached, or simply a harmonic balancer… just nuts.
 
bluemax_1 said:
Yup. It's crazy that in many countries in the EU, suppressors are simple over the counter purchases, but the country with more firearms in private hands than most other nation's armies, makes people jump through a bunch of hoops to get one.

As mentioned, Hollywood definitely doesn't help the uneducated imbeciles making the rules, when they continue pushing silly tropes like the John Wick movies with super secret assassins strolling through throngs of people, shooting at each other with their pfft, pfft silencers while everyone around them is completely oblivious.

Surprised lawmakers haven't banned katanas, seeing as they can easily slice through everything from marble columns, to heavy chains, shotguns, rifles, vehicles and what-not 🙄
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it's for the tax stamp. lots of money wont be changing hands if the need to pay for permission goes away.
 
Yep the fight against the 2A items has been on going for way too long. Focus has been on trying to ban suppressors. Haven’t gained much ground so making “threaded barrels” the focus, even though they’ve been legally obtained, they still want to take them away. Thank goodness for the ASA and Silencer Shop as well as others are fighting the good fight.

A few years ago the ASA and others were pushing to pass the HPA, now they’re just fighting to keep Suppressors legal at this point.
 
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