Carrying a knife . . . .

[Bad Ninja]

Umm, no.

The two (arguably) most significant 2A cases of the last 30 years (Heller and McDonald) are both SCOTUS decisions, one overturned DC’s handgun ban and the other Chicago... similar cases but McDonald expanded case law from Heller to apply to states under 14A.

You just agreed with my post.
And so did the SC in the rare few times they have addressed 2A infringements.
The Constitution is pretty clear.
"Shall not be infringed".

 

[John_0917]

You just agreed with my post.
And so did the SC in the rare few times they have addressed 2A infringements.
The Constitution is pretty clear.
"Shall not be infringed".

I misunderstood, I thought you were saying that SCOTUS doesn’t take on 2A cases.

 

[ronin.graves]

Like most of you, I carry a knife on a daily basis and have done so for nearly as long as I can remember.

The other day, I stumbled across a Facebook posting of a video in which two guys came across a sea turtle stuck tangled in some trash on the beach. They tried to free the turtle and said numerous times "We need a knife!" The finally free the turtle but two men and no knife? Really.

My daughter gave her adult cousin a Kershaw folder for Christmas. He said that it was great because he was thinking of getting a knife to see if he was comfortable carrying one. WTF?

Years ago, I gave the above mentioned fellows father a nice pocket knife (he said that he wanted a pocket knife) but he never had it on him. Why? He only carried it if he thought that he might need it. Really?

I carry a knife all the time (except on airplanes) because I know that I'm going to need it, I just don't know why I'll need it.

I’ve carried a knife pretty much every day since I was a young boy. Really always thought of it as a tool more than a weapon. Times have certainly changed. I know there’s a need for safety and some environments may be better-off without knives around. Honestly, some knife laws in some municipalities are just ridiculous. I am always aware of the law wherever I am and try to comply, unless I feel I have a valid reason not to. Wherever I am and whatever knife I’m carrying, I try to always be aware of my surroundings and reasonably prepared. However, I also try to be low-key and respectful to others. Again, unless I feel I have a valid reason not to.

 

[Bad Ninja]

I misunderstood, I thought you were saying that SCOTUS doesn’t take on 2A cases.

Rarely. But when they do, they tend tt find infringements unconstitutional.

We have some states trying to infringe on the those rights, but those infringements are also unconstitutional. There is a reason the 2A was worded the way it is.
Our founding fathers limited the governments authority on this to protect citizens from tyrannical government overreach, which is why the governments viciously seeks to disarm the populace.
I feel like I'm going to far off topic, so I'll end with this:

Rights are like muscles. If you fail to exercise them, you will lose them.

 

[stabman]

Well sir, that is because you are a superior human being, and its a feeling well earned.

Thanks!

I want to believe that you carry the Narcan since you’re some kind of first responder who is likely to encounter ODs...sadly I know that opiate use is so common these days that one doesn’t need to be in the emergency services profession to have a need for it.

Sadly, these days you can run across an overdose victim going to get a coffee.
Ran into an overdose victim in a McDonald's bathroom one time when we were on a homeless outreach mission (was stopping in to get more burgers to hand out). I had the injectable Naloxone (just got it one week before), and the manager was getting in my way. Got the 911 dispatch to tell him using the drug was a good idea. Handed the loaded syringe to a guy there in the restaurant who happened to be a US Army medic trying to save the guy (odd finding a US Army medic in Toronto...small world). EMS got there just as the syringe touched the guy's shoulder.

Found out later the guy died.
Fentanyl overdose.

Got the nasal spray version after that because it's quicker to get into action, and doesn't look threatening. Plus, next time I'd just tell the manager to get out of the way; first time though, there is hesitation, especially because taking a First Aid/CPR course and other preparation things are generally thought of as something that will never actually have to be used. After encountering the reality of what can happen, you re-evaluate.

 

[Billy The Blade]

You can sharpen the edge of a credit/debit card for such times as that.

...Good to know, cause my credit cards are so dull, that they can't even handle a sale price, Lol-?
...By the way, how'd you stumble on that one, & what did you use ?
-Back on topic, Op,
I am most definitely Pro knife carry, and like to prepared for
whatever possible.
Afterall, 'It's better to have a knife and not need it, then it is to need a knife, and Not have one'
B.T.B.

 

[sailfish]

At one time, even as late as the late 1970's and early 1980's, it was common when applying for a job for the interviewer to ask to see your pocket knife.

No pocket knife?
You were unreliable, unprepaired, untrustworthy, and did not get the job.

Broken blade?
You were careless, used the wrong tool(s) for the task(s) at hand, and didn't get the job.

Knife rusty (a patina was acceptable), blades dull, broken/chipped covers ...
You were lazy and did not take care of your tools. You did not get the job.

Knife in good condition, sharp blades, with or without a patina on the carbon steel blades?
If you were qualified for the position, you got the job.

When I was a young'un, from the first or second grade onward, it was assumed every boy in the school had a pocket knife in their front pocket. (And that the girls probably had one in their pocket or purse.)
It was not considered unusual for the teacher to borrow a knife from a student ... other than it was unusual the teacher didn't have their knife with them that day ... The teacher always returned the knife to the student after cutting the whatever or sharpening the pencils.

Back then, the "normal" and/or "average" man would no sooner leave home without his pocket knife as he would forget to put on his pants that morning.

I've had at least one slipjoint in my pants pocket every day since 1960 (I was 5) plus a Buck 110 or Old Timer 7OT on my belt since 1968 or 1969.

Full Disclosure:
I got a Buck 112 roughly 5 or 6 months ago, and have carried it some instead of, or with the 110.

That's an interesting concept. Depending on my line of work that question might make me nervous though. I have a buddy for example who used to be a teacher and now works in a government building. I work in a trade though so I'd probably light up if I got asked that.

 

[leghog]

That's an interesting concept. Depending on my line of work that question might make me nervous though. I have a buddy for example who used to be a teacher and now works in a government building. I work in a trade though so I'd probably light up if I got asked that.

And? I work in government buildings. I carry knives daily. I'm subject to in and out inspections. Never been a problem. We even have ten inch kitchen knives in our kitchenette.

 

[Bad Ninja]

That's an interesting concept. Depending on my line of work that question might make me nervous though. I have a buddy for example who used to be a teacher and now works in a government building. I work in a trade though so I'd probably light up if I got asked that.

The '70s and 80s were much different than today's bizzaro world.
We carried knives to school and kept shotguns and rifles in out trucks in the High School parking lot.
No one got stabbed or shot.

I remember shooting a deer before school and cleaning it in the woodworking shop.

Early 1980's rural Georgia was a great place to grow up.

 

[pinnah]

What do you suppose the next weapon of choice will be in London?

Any sane person knows that banning a specific inanimate object won't quell violence. It just changes what the reporter fills in the blank with. Murdering has been illegal for quite some time, regardless of the apparatus used. Still happens quite a bit

The bad news is that someone could easily do harm with a crowbar... but it's not very good at slicing an apple.

I believe the statistics on weapons bans and violent crimes are pretty well understood.

Weapons bans do nothing to lower the rates of violent crimes.

However, weapons bans do lower the lethality of violent crimes.

In terms of classic risk analysis in which risk = threat x impact (where threat is the chance of something bad happening and impact is the effect of the bad thing happening) we would say that weapons bans lower risk by lowering the impact of violent crimes, not the threat of violent crimes.

 

[Bad Ninja]

What do you suppose the next weapon of choice will be in London?

Probably cars.
There is an obvious effort to remove personal property.

These bans are to control the populace, not make anyone safe.

 

[afishhunter]

However, weapons bans do lower the lethality of violent crimes.

Violent criminals are all in favor of weapons bans/gun control.
It makes their chosen career safer.

Their victims cannot defend themselves.

Bans and gun control do nothing to make the victims safer nor to lower the chances of them being killed.

 

[91bravo]

I have a knife on me today, woo hoo!

 

[jackknife]

And? I work in government buildings. I carry knives daily. I'm subject to in and out inspections. Never been a problem. We even have ten inch kitchen knives in our kitchenette.

Like leghog, I went in and out of government buildings for most of my life in and around Washington D.C. Don't know of any place theres more government buildings than D.C.. Yet Never had any problem carrying a pocket knife in any of them. Department of Agriculture, all the Smithsonian buildings, Department of Commerce, National Gallery Of Art, all with my daily pocket knife.

There's a big misconception that you can't carry a knife into a government building. That's false. What there is are regulations against pocket size machetes and weapons, but any modest pocket knife won't ring any bells.

 

[marcinek]

I don't think whether or not someone carries a knife should be seen as a character issue.

I did "listen" to him, by reading his post. I read yours, too. Apparently, you like his and you don't like mine. You've got an ignore button, too. It won't hurt my feelings - I'm an adult. You said so yourself.

Who other than you said it should?

I read your post and after the point where you chose to make a personal insult, I didn't follow your argument.

Apparently you "read" my post and "listened," and didn't understand.

Just because someone carries a knife does not insure they are a person of character. As I said, many aren't. And they reflect poorly on all of us.

You want to stick your head in the sand and believe it's entirely everyone else's fault if knife users are looked upon askew, of course feel feel to do that and continue complaining about "them" here.

 

[Bad Ninja]

Prediction:

After banning knives, stabbings by Spork rises to an all time high.
"Sporking" laws are discussed and Tactical Sporks are seen to be scarce as shelves empty in anticipation of new Spork regulations.

Spork laws save lives.
Turn in your Spork.

 

[Peter Hartwig]

Violent criminals are all in favor of weapons bans/gun control.
It makes their chosen career safer.

Understand your point, but don't know if they have ever been polled on the subject

 

[marcinek]

Like leghog, I went in and out of government buildings for most of my life in and around Washington D.C. Don't know of any place theres more government buildings than D.C.. Yet Never had any problem carrying a pocket knife in any of them. Department of Agriculture, all the Smithsonian buildings, Department of Commerce, National Gallery Of Art, all with my daily pocket knife.

There's a big misconception that you can't carry a knife into a government building. That's false. What there is are regulations against pocket size machetes and weapons, but any modest pocket knife won't ring any bells.

You did it all wrong. You were supposed to, immediately upon entering those buildings, whip out your CS XXX Stabinator, scream "2nd Amendment! Bring on the hooligans!" use the knife to open a bag of Cheetos, then come here to complain about the "sheeple" who looked at you funny oppressing you.

How many times am I going to have to explain to you old fogies what knives are for?!?

 

[jackknife]

You did it all wrong. You were supposed to, immediately upon entering those buildings, whip out your CS XXX Stabinator, scream "2nd Amendment! Bring on the hooligans!" use the knife to open a bag of Cheetos, then come here to complain about the "sheeple" who looked at you funny oppressing you.

How many times am I going to have to explain to you old fogies what knives are for?!?

I'm sorry marci, I'll go right outside and run around the house three times while waving my Case peanut in the air and yelling "FREEDOM!"

Penance must be performed.

 

[marcinek]

I'm sorry marci, I'll go right outside and run around the house three times while waving my Case peanut in the air and yelling "FREEDOM!"

Penance must be performed.

lol!

Hey we all have a right to break wind in public. Nothing in the Constitution says we can't. But if we all go around farting in other peoples' faces when they are trying to eat dinner at Applebees, then maybe there will be something in the Constitution that will say we can't. And it is not going to be their fault.

Though I know Ben Franklin would disagree.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fart_Proudly