Carrying a knife . . . .

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SteelJunkee said:
Got full body searched because I putted my hand in my pockets during an altercation... It was minus 20 out there my hands were freezing that's all, and they took away my beloved cadet :rolleyes: even if they could not press any charges. That was in the 90`s in Montreal. So I`m pretty sure today I could have trouble with a butter knife.
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You probably would, if you went for your pockets while being approached by the police.

Where I come from, that can get you shot, even if you have nothing in your pockets, so I'm not sure how it is "knife rights" related.
 
Reitwagen said:
You make a good point. Flipping open a large folder will get a predictable reaction. At the other extreme, I've heard gasps when I took a penknife from my pocket and one woman was alarmed at the little military can opener on my keychain. That's when I have to wonder about some people.
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Should have told her its just the latest greatest p38.
 
Reitwagen said:
You make a good point. Flipping open a large folder will get a predictable reaction. At the other extreme, I've heard gasps when I took a penknife from my pocket and one woman was alarmed at the little military can opener on my keychain. That's when I have to wonder about some people.
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Oh I'm sure there are some folks with a fear or knives or sharp stuff....like there are people with a fear of spiders.

I am, in almost all aspects, at "liberalism" ground zero. Never met anyone with that kind of fear of knives.
 
marcinek said:
You probably would, if you went for your pockets while being approached by the police.

Where I come from, that can get you shot, even if you have nothing in your pockets, so I'm not sure how it is "knife rights" related.
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No... The altercation had ready begun and we where already discussing the problem for a couple minutes then...

And I`m really just not looking like a threatening guy.... So That reaction surprised me.

And they still confiscated a perfectly legal slip-joint from a law abiding citizen.
 
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dsalazar said:
Should have told her its just the latest greatest p38.
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Agreed. Talk about what it is. Talk about it's history and why it feels like it does to carry it. Talk about it's utility.

She's probably say "Oh. Where can I get one."

And if she doesn't want to talk about it? Move on. Be the adult. She's happy thinking the way she does...you are happy thinking the way you do.

That's how society has always worked.
 
SteelJunkee said:
No... The altercation had ready begun and we where already discussing the problem for a couple minutes then...

And I`m really just not looking like a threatening guy.... So That reaction surprised me.
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It shouldn't. Don't go to your pockets around police. They didn't react like that because they wanted to take your pocket knife and impinge upon your rights. They reacted like that because they thought you might kill them.
 
Roger Kipwell said:
Yeah, them. No knives in schools. No knives on planes. No knives in hospitals. Ever have a cop flip out when he discovers your knife?
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Heh. I've spent quite literally months in the hospital in the last couple years and I've never had an issue. For one prolonged stay I took a Boker G&G Hawk Griploc. The hospital staff were fascinated by that knife. I would usually leave it on my tray to open cream cheese packets and such and I had to demonstrate the mechanism and generally show it off at least half a dozen times. A few even showed me the knife they carried. The kids are alright. ;)
 
marcinek said:
Agreed. Talk about what it is. Talk about it's history and why it feels like it does to carry it. Talk about it's utility.

She's probably say "Oh. Where can I get one."

And if she doesn't want to talk about it? Move on. Be the adult. She's happy thinking the way she does...you are happy thinking the way you do.

That's how society has always worked.
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Do what i have done. Pull out a can of fruit cocktail and pop that bad boy open. Mainly why i carry mine. My son and i can eat a can or two.
 
marcinek said:
Agreed. Talk about what it is. Talk about it's history and why it feels like it does to carry it. Talk about it's utility.

She's probably say "Oh. Where can I get one."

And if she doesn't want to talk about it? Move on. Be the adult. She's happy thinking the way she does...you are happy thinking the way you do.

That's how society has always worked.
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These are exceptions. Most of the time People Congrats you on that magnificent knife of yours.
 
marcinek said:
It shouldn't. Don't go to your pockets around police. They didn't react like that because they wanted to take your pocket knife and impinge upon your rights. They reacted like that because they thought you might kill them.
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Yes... 3 officers, 3 time big as me in body armor with their gun against a cat frame with a 2.5 inch slip-joint, I can imagine my face hitting the hood of their car :)
 
Insipid Moniker said:
Heh. I've spent quite literally months in the hospital in the last couple years and I've never had an issue.
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I've seen quite a few hospitals with metal detectors at the doors. Amusement parks too. The big theaters are putting in metal detectors now as well. I guess they don't want knife fights breaking out over a performance of Nutcracker.
 
SteelJunkee said:
Yes... 3 officers, 3 time big as me in body armor with their gun against a cat frame with a 2.5 inch slip-joint, I can imagine my face hitting the hood of their car :)
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Its a mistake anyone, including myself, could easily make. Their reaction had nothing to do with what was in your pockets....only that you went toward them.

Police tend to be a bit sensitive about that. Be happy you didn't get pepper sprayed, tazed, or worse.
 
Roger Kipwell said:
I've seen quite a few hospitals with metal detectors at the doors. Amusement parks too. The big theaters are putting in metal detectors now as well. I guess they don't want knife fights breaking out over a performance of Nutcracker.
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I'm betting you're talking about Emergency Room entrances, not hospital entrances, and ERs are a whole different animal. For one thing, every ER has a certain number of patients that are there because someone put them there. Metal detectors and security are there so that someone doesn't try to continue the conversation.
 
dirc said:
it's funny... I also make an active effort to hike at night in the woods without using a flashlight, not because I don't carry a flashlight, but because I think of how useful it would be to be somewhat accustomed to the dark, and in a forest its amazing how dark it gets.

I guarantee you you'd all get a real adrenaline rush doing it, even on a full moon when there is more light.
There is a very real hardwired fear factor doing such things alone at night. Fighting it, and learning to keep your head calm is worth gold in my book. Not to mention how acute hearing skills can become ; ) It's a win/win/win situation. (with the proper mindset)

I always have a good fixed blade on me, and flashlight of course and sometimes more gear if I'm doing a multi-hour night hike.
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I took a night hike without a flashlight one time. Walked off a dock into a lake and nearly froze to death. Of course I was hammered at the time, so...
 
marcinek said:
Its a mistake anyone, including myself, could easily make. Their reaction had nothing to do with what was in your pockets....only that you went toward them.

Police tend to be a bit sensitive about that. Be happy you didn't get pepper sprayed, tazed, or worse.
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Nothing happened I got my hand slowly out of my pocket of my coat and they checked them and they where empty, but 5 minutes later one of the officers decided I needed a full body search, I`m sure they where looking for drugs or such and found nothing but my cadet in my jeans pocket....

Now imo at that point I did not have done anything wrong so imo they should have gave it back without a word. Am I wrong thinking this ?
 
I once got pulled over while walking when I was 17-18. I had gotten in trouble for something stupid and was suspended, so I had a reason to not be in school. The officer was making sure I wasn't truant and that's fine. I worked mopping and carried a knife to break down boxes. Nothing scary, but he took it and tried to yell at me for having a weapon. I calmly pointed out it still had tape gunk on the blade from work. Walked away fine, but I lost the knife. I'm frequently the designated knife guy of the group. About once a year I forget my knife and people get all "You don't have a knife (that they can use)?" Yet they don't have one when they need one. Historically, having a knife was a sign of being a free person. Slaves couldn't have a knife for fear they would use it on their masters. Now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to use my shiny new Pioneer X to help get lunch together for 3 kids.
 
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