carrying on college campus

I am a university professor, and I can tell you that most, if not all, universities have emergency procedures in place that we have to follow. Ours is the 'lock the doors and wait' procedure. As a professor, I do feel and obligation to protect my students, and I don't think yelling, "Every man for himself! Out the windows! Run for the hills!" is a good option. Running/fighting might be your perceived best option, but I need to keep everyone of my students safe.

On the other hand, I don't like the idea of sitting there and waiting for someone with a gun to come in to my classroom either. I personally think professors should be allowed to concealed-carry, but given the left-wing tendencies of your typical academic, that won't fly. So hopefully, if something ever happens, I'll be in a classroom with a nice thick door, a solid deadbolt, and a classroom set-up that will allow us to jump anyone that tries to come in the room.:D
 
Brodie002 said:
I am a university professor, and I can tell you that most, if not all, universities have emergency procedures in place that we have to follow. Ours is the 'lock the doors and wait' procedure. As a professor, I do feel and obligation to protect my students, and I don't think yelling, "Every man for himself! Out the windows! Run for the hills!" is a good option. Running/fighting might be your perceived best option, but I need to keep everyone of my students safe.

On the other hand, I don't like the idea of sitting there and waiting for someone with a gun to come in to my classroom either. I personally think professors should be allowed to concealed-carry, but given the left-wing tendencies of your typical academic, that won't fly. So hopefully, if something ever happens, I'll be in a classroom with a nice thick door, a solid deadbolt, and a classroom set-up that will allow us to jump anyone that tries to come in the room.:D
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I can understand why you feel that way, but I'll take my chances as a moving target. Are you against students carrying?
 
Brodie002 said:
I am a university professor, and I can tell you that most, if not all, universities have emergency procedures in place that we have to follow. Ours is the 'lock the doors and wait' procedure. As a professor, I do feel and obligation to protect my students, and I don't think yelling, "Every man for himself! Out the windows! Run for the hills!" is a good option. Running/fighting might be your perceived best option, but I need to keep everyone of my students safe.

On the other hand, I don't like the idea of sitting there and waiting for someone with a gun to come in to my classroom either. I personally think professors should be allowed to concealed-carry, but given the left-wing tendencies of your typical academic, that won't fly. So hopefully, if something ever happens, I'll be in a classroom with a nice thick door, a solid deadbolt, and a classroom set-up that will allow us to jump anyone that tries to come in the room.:D
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I like your thinking, sir! :D
 
The college I went to allowed the students to carry folders on campus and the Cops/Security encurreged the girls to do so. We were even allowed to carry a concealled pistil with a CCW. Here in Utah state run colloges have less gun/knife laws but the private universitys for the most part are supper strict. I'm looking at going back to school and one of the first things I look at are their gun/knife/weapons rules.

In school I always had a leatherman Mini and a folder on me at all times.

Heber
 
Brodie002 said:
I am a university professor, and I can tell you that most, if not all, universities have emergency procedures in place that we have to follow. Ours is the 'lock the doors and wait' procedure. As a professor, I do feel and obligation to protect my students, and I don't think yelling, "Every man for himself! Out the windows! Run for the hills!" is a good option. Running/fighting might be your perceived best option, but I need to keep everyone of my students safe.
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No offense, dude, but I'll be leaving, even if I have to use the professor to "open" the windows.

The whole "lock the doors and hope" method has been PROVEN not to work.

As far as I'm concerned, ANYONE eligible for a CWL, should carry on campus, faculty AND students. They're all adults, and if they aren't they aren't eligible for a CWL. . .
 
I agree a prof should be able to carry. And frankly if a student has gone through the proper channels to get their concealed carry permit they too should be allowed to carry. If every predator KNEW their 'prey' might be packing some form of weapon I think there'd be less issues.

I don't have my concealed carry YET so for now I pack a form of cutlery that can be used for everyday use OR to defend myself if need be. I'll be damned if I'm gonna sit back and allow some f'er that have no morals violate me.
 
Might want to tote a MagLite, too.
Yeah, they aren't as bright as some of the tactical ones, but they make one hell of a beating stick.
 
I think the UNL rules are that you can have a folder under 3 inches. I carry a Spyderco Stretch or Mini-Manix in pocket, SAK Farmer, and an RC-3 in my backpack. Never had any problems. Especially on the ag campus, since pretty much everybody including professors have some sort of knife on them.
 
What would happen if you were caught if they were prohibited? Would they kick you out?
 
When I was in school I carried at least one knife on my person everyday. This wasn't for the defensive purposes, they would have worked, but rather for the convenience of having the tool. An EDC folder and the newest knife in my collection were the usual suspects.

I have a CHL usually carry something one me but I am on the fence about campus carry. My only worry is that a college campus would turn into a shootout with misinformed students taking out the good guy that just subdued the bad guy. I know this is a far fetched example and that this is exactly the thought lefties want to scare the public with but I have given it some merit. I do completely agree with professors carrying though, not that it would make things much safer.

Just to through this in there, I am against open carry in any form. This is just not a good idea on so many levels. First, the unneeded intimidation factor to the sheeple. I can see them fleeing from the person openly carrying a firearm. Second, a person carrying a visible gun makes themselves a target. If somebody is going to try something you have a large target on you back saying "Take me out first". I would not want that following me everywhere. Thirdly, concealed carry is a much better deterrent for crime because is prevents the bad guy from knowing who is armed and who is not. Lastly, I don't want to turn this into a name calling flame war and apologize if I have skewed this thread to far from its origins.
 
Mrs.Shotgunner11 said:
Cpl- how big do you think my bag is? Lol I barely fit my books!
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Is it a backpack or duffle bag type?
If it's a backpack, slide it down beside the books, if a duffle, put it on top of them or alongside in the bag.

It doesn't have to be a 6 D-cell monster like I carried, even a C-Cell one, grabbed by the bell can be a beater. At your size, the knees would be an easy target.
 
Hahahah! The knees......f'er! I'll go look for a pic of my bag. Its not a backpack or a duffel.

Idk what would happen if they found me carrying.
 
orrey45 said:
Just to through this in there, I am against open carry in any form. This is just not a good idea on so many levels. First, the unneeded intimidation factor to the sheeple. I can see them fleeing from the person openly carrying a firearm. Second, a person carrying a visible gun makes themselves a target. If somebody is going to try something you have a large target on you back saying "Take me out first". I would not want that following me everywhere. Thirdly, concealed carry is a much better deterrent for crime because is prevents the bad guy from knowing who is armed and who is not. Lastly, I don't want to turn this into a name calling flame war and apologize if I have skewed this thread to far from its origins.
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I hear this a lot, except look at some of the unintended consequences (not saying concealed carry is the wrong choice, but food for thought).

1.) The "sheep" are afraid because they aren't used to seeing them. If open carry was commonplace, the sheep wouldn't wet their pants over it. Don't know where you're living, but open carry of any size knife is legal here. People, even sheep don't freak when they see a knife on a belt. Other places I've lived, where open carry of anything except something like a Buck 110 wasn't allowed, people would freak if they saw a knife. Same thing with guns. People who live in open carry states don't generally get the "freak factor" except in big cities, mostly due to imported morons. So, the fear is a consequence of the taboo, not the other way around.
2.) The "take me out first" effect. First, open carry will deter someone who is working themselves up to commit the crime, or who might commit a crime but doesn't want a fight. They'll find an easier target.

Second, if someone is going to perpetrate a crime on a visibly armed person, they'll certainly commit it against one not visibly armed.

Third, the "he might be armed, I don't know" effect doesn't work for the people intent on the crime. The unintended consequence of not knowing who is armed means, they'll just go for a quick kill shot on whomever they attack, presuming them to be armed.

The best solution is to have something open carried (I prefer to carry a knife open), and your primary concealed. The bad guys will attack either way. If they see a knife on my belt, they are likely to get closer than if I had a gun openly carried, and they'll be fixating on the knife, not looking for other weapons.
 
Mrs.Shotgunner11 said:
Hahahah! The knees......f'er! I'll go look for a pic of my bag. Its not a backpack or a duffel.

Idk what would happen if they found me carrying.
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F-em. It's better to be expelled than raped.

Is it that you can't carry ANY knife, or just certain kinds of knife?

Not to mention, I have to step on some toes here and point out that all the bragging about Texas is BS. Florida is more like Texas used to be than Texas is anymore.

I mean it's just wrong to not allow people to carry a Bowie. Hell, in Texas it should be MANDATORY. Not to mention a gun.
 
It looks similar to this http://www.kohls.com/upgrade/webstore/product_page.jsp?PRODUCT<>prd_id=845524892370425&prtID=pfxbizrate&cm_mmc=Performics-_-DataFeed-_-BizRate.com-_-DDI%20Link&CustomerMemberID=10010000
And mind you I think the damn algebra book I have to carry weighs 1/2 as much as I do! Its huge!
 
rmc85 said:
This is a very hard situation for me to take sides on.

Being a LEO you should ENFORCE the law and not encourage others to be lawbreaker's. I can only assume its illegal for her to carry since you said "I (being a LEO) understand why the laws are in place, but I will not allow myself or my family to be helpless victims". I wouldnt be saying that on the internet if I were you.

On the other hand I would give almost anything to be able to carry my G23, P2000, or S&W 442 to class. I'm not going to risk being caught and becoming a felon though...:rolleyes:

As gay as I think the are I have also been looking at those stupid "tactical pens".
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First, everything that my wife or myself carry is legal, What I said was that she doesnt leave without a way to protect herself , I never said that she was carrying a gun to school . Also, I never said that anyone should break the law, only that I personally feel the need to be armed, and because of that my family will not be helpless. And as for posting that on the internet, I stand by my statement.
 
Mrs.Shotgunner11 said:
It looks similar to this
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And mind you I think the damn algebra book I have to carry weighs 1/2 as much as I do! Its huge!
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LOL, an oversized purse.
Should still be able to slide a C-Cell down the side. If anyone gives you crap just act like they're the dumbest a**hole on the earth for asking why you have a FLASHLIGHT.

Or get a different bag. :D
 
In Oregon, state law preempts the ability of political subdivisions to pass their own gun regulations, but the Oregon University System did so anyway.

So, having a valid carry permit, I violated the rule for seven years with a Colt Officer's Model.

Never got made. However, this past year a Western Oregon student with a valid carry permit did. The Marine veteran is now suing the state's University system for violating the law and his campus for false imprisonment for having security call the local police to have him arrested. My belief is that he will win that case.
 
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