carrying on college campus

I believe it says ANY knife. When I get home I will look it up again. I'm surfing my phone at the gym (not easy). And yes its an oversized purse. Lol ther mr bought it for me birthday last year!

I agree that ppl are weird about guns when they have no exposure to them. My dad was a cop my whole life so we grew up with guns in the house. I think its strange to NOT have oine in the house.
 
Mrs.Shotgunner11 said:
I believe it says ANY knife. When I get home I will look it up again. I'm surfing my phone at the gym (not easy). And yes its an oversized purse. Lol ther mr bought it for me birthday last year!

I agree that ppl are weird about guns when they have no exposure to them. My dad was a cop my whole life so we grew up with guns in the house. I think its strange to NOT have oine in the house.
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Amen to that. :thumbup:
 
Jetblack said:
First, everything that my wife or myself carry is legal, What I said was that she doesnt leave without a way to protect herself , I never said that she was carrying a gun to school . Also, I never said that anyone should break the law, only that I personally feel the need to be armed, and because of that my family will not be helpless. And as for posting that on the internet, I stand by my statement.
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Thanks for clearing that up!:thumbup:

To me it came off as a "hint, hint" kind of way pf saying she carries there.
 
I'm all for protecting yourself & family. Since I had my permit, I have carried, concealed and discrete. Remember Bernard Goetz, the subway vigilante, he was riding a NY subway and shot 4 scumbags that tried to rob him, although a lengthy court case followed, he was acquitted of attempted murder and assault & was considered self defense, BUT he did not have a permit for his revolver and was convicted of criminal possession of an unlicensed weapon and spent 250 days in jail. Protect yourself, but make sure you have your permit. Before you shoot, keep in mind that a criminal AND civil case will ensue if you injure or kill someone.
 
onado2000 said:
I'm all for protecting yourself & family. Since I had my permit, I have carried, concealed and discrete. Remember Bernard Goetz, the subway vigilante, he was riding a NY subway and shot 4 scumbags that tried to rob him, although a lengthy court case followed, he was acquitted of attempted murder and assault & was considered self defense, BUT he did not have a permit for his revolver and was convicted of criminal possession of an unlicensed weapon and spent 250 days in jail. Protect yourself, but make sure you have your permit. Before you shoot, keep in mind that a criminal AND civil case will ensue if you injure or kill someone.
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+1 on everything you said.:thumbup:
 
rmc85 said:
Here's the part that KILLS me. The next day in class our Prof made us talk about "what happened". When it was all said and done he says "If this every happens again we will lock the door and wait for police".
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I can't say that I'm surprised to hear something moronic things coming from a professor's mouth but I've got to ask anyway. What was the "logic" being employed? Did he bother to say? Further what subject did he teach?

I wouldn't have bothered to argue with him however. I would have just known that he was an idiot and that I wouldn't expect any help from him in an emergency.
 
Unless you live in a state where they can't be a criminal case in the event of a defensive shooting, nor can there be a civil case.

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rmc85 said:
I can understand why you feel that way, but I'll take my chances as a moving target. Are you against students carrying?
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I don't like the idea of open carry on a college campus, and I don't even like the idea of students being able to carry firearms being officially endorsed. Overall, colleges are very safe places to be, and I think officially allowing people to carry firearms would have a detrimental effect on the overall climate that would outweigh, given the remote chance of an event ever happening, any potential increase in security. However, if a student has a concealed carry permit (which, from what I've heard, is next to impossible to obtain in my county), I would be OK with it. Most everyone would be oblivious to it, and it's not a bad thing to have some sane, rational people on campus carrying. At the same time, I don't want to facilitate carrying for people/students who aren't that stable/rational.

I would not physically restrain a student from leaving the classroom during an incident, either. I would discourage it, but if someone insists on going, I'm not going to stop him. What am I going to do, sit on him?
 
History repeats itsellf, there is nothing new under the sun. College shootings happen all the time, and if a law abiding student has a CC permit and has it on their person on campus or in class... so be it. I think we should be allowed to bring rifles to class if we wanted to, and it used to be that way.
 
Triton said:
I can't say that I'm surprised to hear something moronic things coming from a professor's mouth but I've got to ask anyway. What was the "logic" being employed? Did he bother to say? Further what subject did he teach?

I wouldn't have bothered to argue with him however. I would have just known that he was an idiot and that I wouldn't expect any help from him in an emergency.
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I think the logic was more of "this is what I have been told to do" and it was American History 1877-Present.
 
Brodie002 said:
I don't like the idea of open carry on a college campus, and I don't even like the idea of students being able to carry firearms being officially endorsed. Overall, colleges are very safe places to be, and I think officially allowing people to carry firearms would have a detrimental effect on the overall climate that would outweigh, given the remote chance of an event ever happening, any potential increase in security. However, if a student has a concealed carry permit (which, from what I've heard, is next to impossible to obtain in my county), I would be OK with it. Most everyone would be oblivious to it, and it's not a bad thing to have some sane, rational people on campus carrying. At the same time, I don't want to facilitate carrying for people/students who aren't that stable/rational.

I would not physically restrain a student from leaving the classroom during an incident, either. I would discourage it, but if someone insists on going, I'm not going to stop him. What am I going to do, sit on him?
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I think were on the same page here!:thumbup:

I'm not really against or in favor of OC, but I cant understand why people think once I set foot on campus I'm gonna "go off".

I can carry concealed all day and be fine...but if I step on campus I'm going to go "postal"!?!?!:confused: I just dont get how people can think that way.
 
LOL, the idea of "I don't want someone unstable/prone to violence/whatever" to be "enabled" often comes up in concert with letting permit carriers carry in [pick a place they generally aren't able to carry].

Yet, people who are going to commit such crimes will not hesitate to break the law and bring a weapon wherever they are going to commit the crime.

All such rules do is disarm the people NOT prone to such.
 
Cpl Punishment said:
LOL, the idea of "I don't want someone unstable/prone to violence/whatever" to be "enabled" often comes up in concert with letting permit carriers carry in [pick a place they generally aren't able to carry].

Yet, people who are going to commit such crimes will not hesitate to break the law and bring a weapon wherever they are going to commit the crime.

All such rules do is disarm the people NOT prone to such.
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Yeah, I might not have said that right. I agree with that sentiment.

However, I don't think deciding to carry a weapon should be taken lightly. I worry that if carrying a firearm on campus were made legal, many students would decide to tote a weapon around without much thought to the pros and cons, and without attaining proper training. That's the facilitating I'm talking about. And I worry about what those students might do if they're carrying - not the raging lunatics, the good kids who haven't put enough thought into what they're doing (and are prone to errors in judgement 18 year-olds are so likely to make).

I want to have my cake and eat it to (did I say that right?). I only want people I trust to be allowed to carry. I don't know how you make that into official policy.:confused:
 
I'm a college student. Our knife laws are "no extraordinary knives allowed in the dorm rooms". Of course, what is extraordinary. Arkansas current knife law is "knives meant to be used as weapons are not permitted to be carried in public". Again another bland explanation of the rules.

I carry my Izula on my belt every day on campus. Also a Vic. Fieldmaster in my back pocket. I have carried my RC4 once, but it was too big and stuck out from under my shirt.

I'm more concerned with concealed carry on campus. There is a LARGE organization pushing for the rights of those who are CHL qualified to carry on campuses across the country (including teachers and students). They have a group on facebook for any of yall interested.

At my school, we have un armed security and about 6 armed old men security guards. I'm sorry, but if someone starts shooting in one of the buildings, there is NO WAY any of those armed guards or city PD will get there before a considerable ammount of students/teachers/staff members are dead. The only effective way to stop these kind of attacks are to let those (qualified) in the classroom take action. It's just that simple.
 
5.56 said:
They also say no drugs or alcohol on campus
College rules were meant to be broken.:p:D
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You preach the truth!

I carry a Spyderco UKPK on my campus. We don't have bullshit security though, we just have a division of the local police department and to be honest, they could care less. The campus rules specifically state "No Weapons" are allowed, nothing about tools :)
 
Brodie002 said:
However, I don't think deciding to carry a weapon should be taken lightly. I worry that if carrying a firearm on campus were made legal, many students would decide to tote a weapon around without much thought to the pros and cons, and without attaining proper training. That's the facilitating I'm talking about. And I worry about what those students might do if they're carrying - not the raging lunatics, the good kids who haven't put enough thought into what they're doing (and are prone to errors in judgement 18 year-olds are so likely to make).
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I'm sorry, but. . .versus all those of the same description in general society that do the same thing?

When CWL permits become a shall issue item, violent crime always goes DOWN. Always. Despite cries that the streets will run with blood due to untrained people shooting it out without thinking.

Not related to anyone's posting in the thread, but I've noticed the same ones in the media that argue against untrained people getting CWLs also argue against private citizens getting professional training.
 
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