Case Bose: What would YOU do?

Would you send the knife in again?

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000Robert said:
Why collect something that doesn't look at least close to perfect? I always understood that people collect things that they love to show off. Who would want to show that off?
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Probably 95% of knife collectors would be tickled to death displaying that knife as is.... And probably 95% of knives people think are "perfect" aren't because most people don't have access to drawings, material specifications, assembly and processing specifications and testing and inspection criteria..... So just by giving a knife a visual look see, how much do you really know about it?
 
HEMI 49 said:
Probably 95% of knife collectors would be tickled to death displaying that knife as is.... And probably 95% of knives people think are "perfect" aren't because most people don't have access to drawings, material specifications, assembly and processing specifications and testing and inspection criteria..... So just by giving a knife a visual look see, how much do you really know about it?
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Looking at the photos we see everything that we need to see. The knife should at least look good.
 
Danke42 said:
This is merely "human error".

There is no malice involved; it's simply a case of the person assembling that knife felt it was good to go. The way to avoid this is to make every effort to replace humans with machines and make the materials and process much more clinical and sterile.

But then the knife looses its je neis sais quoi. Every user needs to decide for themselves where their personal line is.
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Appreciate your input but I must respectfully and strongly disagree. If I understand you correctly, the only true craftsmanship is replacing humans with machines? Or in other words, human errors should simply be given a pass since there was no ill intentions? I’m not sure if that follows manufacturing standards of care regardless of human made or machine made.

If the company advertises pictures of their products without these flaws, it is anticipated that your purchase will align what was shown to you, which in this case wasn’t. If I said please buy my knife at $500 but it will have uneven grinds and gaps in my covers, would you purchase it?

Halfneck said:
If the only thing wrong was the uneven edge grind, and all else was good, I'd be tempted to just send it for a professional sharpening/regrind.
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Yes, this would be the case for a knife that I don’t plan to collect. The fact is any aftermarket alteration of a collectible item will have consequences to its valuation. Unless I’m trying to deceive the public that my knife was received perfectly by ‘fixing’ the errors on my own.

Really appreciate everyone’s diverse inputs!!!
 
Railsplitter said:
I realize that mistakes can happen but these knives have Tony Bose’s name on them.

One would think that the person or persons in charge of the quality of these knives would demand the vey best for that reason alone.
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Personally, I'd rather people make things to a standard as if it was their name on it... Not Tonys. Then they'd have pride in what they do, to uphold their own craftsmanship, not his.

Its easy for most to not care what they do if some bigshots name is on it, who is then accountable, not them.
 
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Case can and does make very nice knives.

Customer feedback, returns, and sales numbers will dictate how they decide to manage QC.

Keep in mind the volumes they are producing. Product quality and value will affect sales. Vote with your wallet.
 
euroken said:
Appreciate your input but I must respectfully and strongly disagree. If I understand you correctly, the only true craftsmanship is replacing humans with machines? Or in other words, human errors should simply be given a pass since there was no ill intentions? I’m not sure if that follows manufacturing standards of care regardless of human made or machine made.

If the company advertises pictures of their products without these flaws, it is anticipated that your purchase will align what was shown to you, which in this case wasn’t. If I said please buy my knife at $500 but it will have uneven grinds and gaps in my covers, would you purchase it?



Yes, this would be the case for a knife that I don’t plan to collect. The fact is any aftermarket alteration of a collectible item will have consequences to its valuation. Unless I’m trying to deceive the public that my knife was received perfectly by ‘fixing’ the errors on my own.

Really appreciate everyone’s diverse inputs!!!
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I'm glad you post has received a lot of opinions, it's what a forum should be :thumbsup:

I would differ with you over the 'collectability' aspect though, if it were resharpened by a pro most people would be unable to tell unless you told them, even then it's not going to really detract from its value either-unlike heavy constant use. The Collabs are produced in relatively large numbers and if anything, their value tends to drop with time, they appear much less sought after or discussed than at the beginning of the century when they were more novel or 'hot' .

I own two Collabs a Norfolk and a Pruner and enjoy both. The Norfolk certainly had its issues, totally mismatched scales in both colour & jigging, it had gaps and the spring was not entirely flush when open or closed. Yes, I was disappointed but then I took it into regular use and it has 'improved' a lot, the carry marks and real use have eclipsed the flaws. The other one a Pruner is all a Collab could be, superb finish and look and I enjoy playing with it an occasional carry.

If I were you, I would get it sharpened by a pro. It's that or a refund frankly.

Regards, Will
 
why would a case cost $500? why would anyone think case is capable of making a "perfect" knife? every case I have ever owned has had QC issues...that's part of the charm of case knives.
 
The title of the thread asks "What Would YOU Do?"
So what would I do? I'd fix the edge, then display it proudly, and even use it from time to time.
What should YOU do? Return it and walk away from the brand. I don't think you'll ever be happy with hand crafted production knives.
Seriously, even Great Eastern Cutlery, which is the top of the game right now, comes with flaws in them. Decide if this is acceptable to you.
 
euroken said:
Appreciate your input but I must respectfully and strongly disagree. If I understand you correctly, the only true craftsmanship is replacing humans with machines? Or in other words, human errors should simply be given a pass since there was no ill intentions? I’m not sure if that follows manufacturing standards of care regardless of human made or machine made.

If the company advertises pictures of their products without these flaws, it is anticipated that your purchase will align what was shown to you, which in this case wasn’t. If I said please buy my knife at $500 but it will have uneven grinds and gaps in my covers, would you purchase it?



Yes, this would be the case for a knife that I don’t plan to collect. The fact is any aftermarket alteration of a collectible item will have consequences to its valuation. Unless I’m trying to deceive the public that my knife was received perfectly by ‘fixing’ the errors on my own.

Really appreciate everyone’s diverse inputs!!!
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If you checked my vote you would have seen send it in. No it's OK and it should be made right.

Mechanically reproducing exact copies is not craftsmanship and is not something humans are good at. See Xerox machine as an example.

There's a posse of folks around here who flood into discussions like this because threads like this come up fairly often when talking about an authentic example of a rustic knife. The posse concentrates on brands they don't like and would never buy and they each pour scorn on that Case or GEC or Boker knife that's got a flaw. Akin to if you'd bought a Ford instead of that Dodge you'd have never had a flat tire or a loose headlight.

But anytime a brand that is part of their identity shows up with a problem they're immediately ready to award a mulligan.
 
Danke42 said:
If you checked my vote you would have seen send it in. No it's OK and it should be made right.

Mechanically reproducing exact copies is not craftsmanship and is not something humans are good at. See Xerox machine as an example.

There's a posse of folks around here who flood into discussions like this because threads like this come up fairly often when talking about an authentic example of a rustic knife. The posse concentrates on brands they don't like and would never buy and they each pour scorn on that Case or GEC or Boker knife that's got a flaw. Akin to if you'd bought a Ford instead of that Dodge you'd have never had a flat tire or a loose headlight.

But anytime a brand that is part of their identity shows up with a problem they're immediately ready to award a mulligan.
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Quoted for truth. ^^
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Personally, I'd get it repaired by Case. I have 5 of the Case - Bose collaborations now. I've parted with a few that weren't my cup of tea. In general they are as good a knife as you'll find without getting one made by a traditional knife maker craftsman.
Are they perfect? Not really, but I'm a pretty discriminating consumer and I haven't had to send one back yet.
 
colubrid said:
Why would both of you say that?
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I have been there, done that...with several limited edition production knives(not Case). I returned them to the dealer/manufacturer asking for them to exchange and inspect the replacement for grind, gaps and centering, etc. When I get it back, it is just as bad or worse, or, there is something else I don't like. I returned them and found something else.

He has already returned it once and is not happy with the replacement. He really has to decide how much he wants that model and if it's worth it to him to continue on this path. This path being sight unseen not being able to have the knife for his visual inspection. Not sure if he is close to a dealer in Washington state and could find one that he can visual inspect for himself.
This is just what I would do and have done...as he requested.
I have the Bose/Case Tribal Spear and it is like Mary Poppins, practically perfect...
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pjsjr said:
I have been there, done that...with several limited edition production knives(not Case). I returned them to the dealer/manufacturer asking for them to exchange and inspect the replacement for grind, gaps and centering, etc. When I get it back, it is just as bad or worse, or, there is something else I don't like. I returned them and found something else.

He has already returned it once and is not happy with the replacement. He really has to decide how much he wants that model and if it's worth it to him to continue on this path. This path being sight unseen not being able to have the knife for his visual inspection. Not sure if he is close to a dealer in Washington state and could find one that he can visual inspect for himself.
This is just what I would do and have done...as he requested.
I have the Bose/Case Tribal Spear and it is like Mary Poppins, practically perfect...
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I have had Case Bose knives as well and they were perfect in my book. Worth every penny. The one the OP posted is just one that slipped by.
 
Aww. for pete's sake! It's just a stinkin' knife, not a personal affront to your dignity and manhood. If you don't like it, return it. Case is used to dealing with collectors. It's the bed they've made.

We see so many of these posts these days, people equating expense with perfection. Flaws diminish the right to brag on material things. An uneven grind line means you can't hold your head up in the exalted circles in which you travel. Oh, the humanity! The immorality of turning out a product that's less than perfect! Don't they know how discriminating we are? Prolls.

Geeze guys, get a grip.

So there.
 
Not acceptable for 500$ knife. It should have a custom quality which it doesn't have. I wouldn't try to sharpen it even though I can. It should be in best quality out of the box. Having said that, this is not uncommon for Case Collab knives to have low F&F.
 
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