CFK Knife update and company history

wesmanthetiger said:
Why? People continue to add to the discussion with their experiences. It hasn't degraded into an angry brawl so I say keep it going. ;)
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Thanks . I absolutely agree and think that Murindo "Gold Member" or not is still rude and insulting and the "just joking" smiley face does not diminish the insult !
 
Showing up at all the CFK threads to support them, are you, stranger?

By the way, in English it's "grasping at straws."
 
Ok, so lets talk about the Tracker knife. It is a very distinctive design. It isn't a bolo, it isn't straight, it isn't a kukri. It is it's own distinctive design. If you make a knife like it, you copied it. It is a design that could easily have been trademarked due to it's distinctiveness. In any case, after looking at both knives, there is no doubt that CFK did a ripoff of the TOPS Tracker. And they did a poor job of it to boot. But what is even funnier is that there are morons out there who will gladly pay the $95 for the cheap pakistani looking rip off on amazon when they can buy the REAL THING on Amazon for $195. So you are going to pay almost $100 for a copy made of unknown quality steel and unknown heat treat made in an unknown place, instead of paying for the real thing made with nice micarta scales and heat treated but a known entity in the USA. Well, I have some swamp land for you, give me a call.

TOPS
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Cheap CFK copy
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I don't know nor do I care to know CFK, and I fully agree with Thomas Linton.
 
crufflers said:
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They seem to copy stuff but not exactly know how to replicate transitions, etc... the tracker copies are not done well. Here's an example with the Prather ripoff. Look at the sharpening choil on the Prather and then on the CFK. They cut the choil but then ground it short of the choil... seems like a lack of understanding of basic knife design.

Realistically it is probably someone in OR sending pics and dimensions to Someone in Pakistan with a note to copy this one.
 
I can't fault the logic that CFK iPak copies shamelessly and definitely demonstrates dubious quality control , however I fail to see that they are really in direct competition with Tops or any other well established , high quality maker . I see their market to be more the fantasy blade and bargain hunting collector. Many blade consumers just want to collect and maybe play around with interesting designs, but just don't have the money for anything better than bottom-end clones and fantasy blades . All that being said , I've noticed a glaring absence of objective product reviews that show failures or flaws of functional consequence of their products .
 
DocJD said:
I've noticed a glaring absence of objective product reviews that show failures or flaws of functional consequence of their products .
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I've been chopping some logs with my Chop House and just got one of those 3 pound dead blows. I will grab the "Prather" iPAK from the kitchen drawer next time and see if it chips or rolls doing the same stuff the SYKCO laughs at. I already commented that it got dull fast not doing much of anything but has a new convex edge from the Work Sharp.

It isn't going to be the chopper that the CH is just based on shape, but at least they are both .25" or close. I won't compare directly but will report any blade damage or lack of it. If I can damage it, I'll beat up my RTAKII or a 12" 5160 MMHW to compare.
 
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But they so love this forum...updated post of mine from another thread regarding eBay feedback of CFK. First the neutral:

DISAPPOINTED IN WORKMANSHIP HANDLE HAS GRIND MARKS ON IT Buyer: o***0 ( 243Teal star icon for feedback score in between 100 to 499)
During past 6 months Feedback conversation


Reply by cfk-cutlery-company (Jan-18-16 10:55):
BOTTOM FEEDER - comments are baloney. Probably a Bladeforums.com joker. BLOCKED

http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=cfk-cutlery-company&iid=161983437869&de=off&items=25&which=neutral&interval=365&_trkparms=neutral_365

Now the meat from their negative feedbacks:

A lot better places to buy a knife than here. Cheap, low quality, unfinished kni Buyer: s***i (private)
During past month Feedback conversation


Reply by cfk-cutlery-company (Jan-30-16 14:55):
Buyer is a paid spokesman for a compeitor from terrorist group "Bladeforums.com"
Follow-up by s***i (Feb-23-16 15:16):
A paranoid delutional rant. Paid by who? Makes No sense. Just a bad review

http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewFeedback2&userid=cfk-cutlery-company&iid=161983437869&de=off&items=25&which=negative&interval=365&_trkparms=negative_365

Terrorists, I hate the way people use that term now days...everyone is a terrorist :barf:
 
crufflers said:
I've been chopping some logs with my Chop House and just got one of those 3 pound dead blows. I will grab the "Prather" iPAK from the kitchen drawer next time and see if it chips or rolls doing the same stuff the SYKCO laughs at. I already commented that it got dull fast not doing much of anything but has a new convex edge from the Work Sharp.

It isn't going to be the chopper that the CH is just based on shape, but at least they are both .25" or close. I won't compare directly but will report any blade damage or lack of it. If I can damage it, I'll beat up my RTAKII or a 12" 5160 MMHW to compare.
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I'm looking forward to your results of actual knife testing ! That means so much more than the unsupported carping of some others .
 
I have bought a few knives from CFK and IPAK over the past year and I liked the knives I received. I have read all the threads in here on CFK and IPAK and see an on going pattern...

When you look at the bloggers INITIATING the negativity or the covert “for your own good” comments on the different threads on “CFK Knife” or “CFK Knives”, they are always the same 15-20 bloggers, most have hundreds or even thousands of blogs to give them their “credibility”. These bloggers use carefully worded statements to attract attention to their campaigns and entice other members into the threads by using catchy-threads to attain “group-negative-agreement”.

These bloggers use Ghost-Member accounts (accounts that appear to post 1-3 threads, claim to have incriminating photos, emails, proof of deception, etc and then disappear or are locked) as well as their own member account to spread false data, in hopes of scaring people away from CFK. It is all done with an apparent “for your own good” basis, but is actually done to harm. When a CFK fan shows up to tell his account with a CFK knife, these bloggers quickly attack this member and work to destroy his credibility.

What these bloggers are actually doing is BLACK PROPAGANDA. This is a real, covert media-operation, also known as Black PR or (BPR) and it is done intentionally by the blogger who is really a competitor or on the payroll of a competitor, pretending to be an information source that tells lies and falsehoods in media channels that are all invented out of thin air, but are relayed as FACT, and in reality the competitor is trying to harm it’s competition and hides behind the bloggers, to reduce and suppress the company or person being covertly attacked.
 
Charlie Rollie said:
What these bloggers are actually doing is BLACK PROPAGANDA. This is a real, covert media-operation, also known as Black PR or (BPR) and it is done intentionally by the blogger who is really a competitor or on the payroll of a competitor, pretending to be an information source that tells lies and falsehoods in media channels that are all invented out of thin air, but are relayed as FACT, and in reality the competitor is trying to harm it’s competition and hides behind the bloggers, to reduce and suppress the company or person being covertly attacked.
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Who are these bloggers and blogs you are referring to?

I can only speak for myself. I found CFK on Ebay where I was buying Kershaws mostly. I was not even into fixed blades at the time really. I wish I could say the same today.

I am a normal collector who bought a bunch of CFK's and I give honest opinions on how I see the Company and how I find the knives I own. I've given away quite a few but still have some. The ones I use are in a kitchen drawer that also contains a few Moras and a SYKCO 511. If I test them out of curiosity and post anything it is my own opinion and not propaganda, lies, or misinformation, etc... the facts are the facts. I like the 8" Prather bowie copy. I thought it was pretty unique until I saw that it was a total rip-off of that Prather collab. I have had the Tracker style iPaks and the transition grinds do SUCK. The fact they don't know what a sharpening choil is for SUCKS.

The fact is, my opinion is these are not made in the USA and are 100% from Pakistan. That's fine and good if they are presented that way.

Honestly before posting about CFK here, I didn't know if I wanted to admit to owning any. If I put some CFK's through hard use and they shine, I will post that too. It still doesn't mean they are forged and vaccuum hardened to amazing levels in the UK with a super-secret custom special D2 formulation and then shipped over to the USA for more polish and handmade scales, camel bone handles, and stacked leather, plus italian leather sheaths from shoe factory scraps, then sold at a loss for $40 or $50 and the sheer joy of sharing these handmade beauties with the world. I've never seen one hardness test divot on mine. They must be hiding under the handles? Maybe the terrorists on BF are CFK employees in iPak land?

Anything negative I posted is true to the best of my knowledge and a lot of it is just my opinion. It is also true I posted some positive comments. You hold these knives in your hand they are beefy and feel solid. Quite a few of them are great looking knives. Also true that I have no idea what this steel is - though I feel like I know where it is from.

That series of posts where the guy was supposedly from Pakistan and afraid for his safety was EFFING strange. Dunno what that was all about but seemed unlikely it as from competition. What do you guys think?
 
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Thomas Linton said:
WOW! Eights posts. Six defending CFK and one attacking a competitor in the import-from-Paki industry. Couldn't be another CFK flack, could ya'? :)
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Hey Tom, at least they don't attack a person on the basis of their English language skills or take other cheap shots in less than a complete sentence . And what , pray tell , is a "CFK flack " ?

Really Thomas , you might possibly have been taught English -but apparently the MANNERS lessons never made an impression .
 
Bearing in mind that this is the bunch that refers to Bladeforums as a "terrorist group," a mild grammar correction is nothing.

As you have asked, a "flack" is someone whose function is to make people like or be interested in someone or something. A number have joined here to flack for CFK. Strange they would want to join a "terrorist group.
 
Thomas Linton said:
Bearing in mind that this is the bunch that refers to Bladeforums as a "terrorist group," a mild grammar correction is nothing.

As you have asked, a "flack" is someone whose function is to make people like or be interested in someone or something. A number have joined here to flack for CFK. Strange they would want to join a "terrorist group.
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Thanks for the reply . I only knew about the word "Flak" which derived from the German : Fl(leger) a(bwehr) k(anone) = flyer defense cannon !

Yes, and speaking of Nazis - it probably is best not to call people that name unless truly justified or to use the term "terrorist" too lightly either . People do get excited and sling around words inappropriately .
 
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