Charging for paypal fees?

PorcupineMtns66 said:
I think it is pretty lame to say that folks who request an extra fee should be reported.
That's pretty low. If you don't like it, move on to another buyer who doesn't ask for it.

Most everybody here are just working stiffs with a private knife collection or are gear junkies and are not dealers. Some things are bought and kept, others are passed along for whatever reason.

My guess is that the first person here that gets reported to Paypal and has their account frozen for "up to 180 days", will surely make it known and we will see a great convenient way to pay for stuff, rapidly removed from the majority of listings because of one guy with a grudge.
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I agree:thumbup:
People need to mind there own buisness, and just move along if they don't like what the seller is doing.
Pretty simple acually.
 
al3xd4gr34t said:
I can see where you would think that. But to me, that is taking it to a bit of an extreme, sending a knife in the mail vs. hand delivering it. Honestly, if the buyer is in my area, I will want to set up a time and place to meet and do the exchange (I've done this before). But the cost of flying to deliver a package vs. sending it in the mail is so much more than charging someone 3% to save yourself some money.

Also, normally in my FS posts, I will have the price that someone will pay. No paypal fees, no shipping fees. In my earlier days in buying and selling, I may have put "plus shipping" but I've grown out of it and find it better just to put the price someone pays.

In the end, most of use on here are not dealers, and are just trying to move some things that we may not want or need anymore, or just want to try something new, so I don't think that paypal fees is a big thing to us.
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Oh absolutely, I was using an extreme example to illustrate the point but I think the parallels are pretty good. The point of course being that sales costs go to the customer whether it's wrapped up in the sales price or is itemized for the customer's perusal. Based upon this new found knowledge on my part I'll be doing the former rather then the latter which means that the customer will actually have less transparency into my pricing structure. (It should be noted that I am referring to a sideline business that I have not that I am selling mass quantities of knives here or elsewhere I'm not.)
 
Karda said:
I never said i would report someone, kharma has a way of working all on it's own.
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You didn't suggest you would report them but you did say "IMHO they should be reported".

Karma goes both ways.

Why incite anything like this is the first place?
If you don't like the terms, don't buy from the seller and don't turn a GB&U thread into a sewing circle about it.

Focus on helping others in need in some way and not crying over something so trivial.
 
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PorcupineMtns66 said:
You didn't suggest you would report them but you did say "IMHO they should be reported".

Karma goes both ways.

Why incite anything like this is the first place?
If you don't like the terms, don't buy from the seller and don't turn a GB&U thread into a sewing circle about it.

Focus on helping others in need in some way and not crying over something so trivial.
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I'm not inciting anything. I'm stating my opinion, just as anyone else. My exact words were "IMHO they should possibly be reported". The possibility was mentioned earlier in the thread and i don't see you throwing a fit at that poster. If one feels that their dishonesty could catch up with them, maybe they shouldnt practice dishonesty. I don't buy from sellers who charge the extra fee or gouge. There are too many honest people out there i'd rather buy from.
 
I bought a knife here not long ago. Someone PM'd me and said, " I was late seeing that thread. If you end up not liking it, I'll buy it for what it cost you and i'll pay your fee's."
Is it dishonest to take the offer? Who is being dishonest about it?
 
PorcupineMtns66 said:
I bought a knife here not long ago. Someone PM'd me and said, " I was late seeing that thread. If you end up not liking it, I'll buy it for what it cost you and i'll pay your fee's."
Is it dishonest to take the offer? Who is being dishonest about it?
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that is very different from advertising a price difference to accomodate paypal fees.
 
Karda said:
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You think it's low that someone should think someone who is breaking the rules should possibly get reported. Some people think it's low that these people should think that they are so privileged that they don't have to follow any rules but their own. Some people think it's low that the fee should be put upon the buyer, especially when its is against written policy for that PAID service. Especially when some of the people are charging over and above Paypal's listed percentage. If a person won't use Paypal because they can't follow simple rules, then they shouldn't be using that service, should they? Maybe they should find a better way. If a person gets their account locked for abusing the system and breaking the rules, they took their chances and will have to live with the consequences of their own actions. It would be their fault and no one else.
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IMNSHO......... well stated. :thumbup:

Karda said:
I'm not inciting anything. I'm stating my opinion, just as anyone else. My exact words were "IMHO they should possibly be reported". The possibility was mentioned earlier in the thread and i don't see you throwing a fit at that poster. If one feels that their dishonesty could catch up with them, maybe they shouldn't practice dishonesty.
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+1


Karda said:
I don't buy from sellers who charge the extra fee or gouge. There are too many honest people out there I'd rather buy
from.
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As of very recently, I have been reevaluating my purchasing and have come to this same conclusion.

There are a lot of excellent makers out there who shoot straight ...... no BS and excuses.... and they "play by the rules".

If one is going to use/accept PayPal...... play by the rules PayPal has set. Simple as that. Don't advertise on your web-site or in a sale thread something that is in direct violation of PayPal guidelines.
To me.... that is arrogance gone to seed. :thumbup:
As well as illegal.

So, if someone chooses to do it anyway... and gets their account locked.... "tough titty". They did it to themselves.

That......... should be crystal clear to anyone. ;)

[As a side note, my biggest pet peeve is the person who downright gouges big time on shipping.
It took me a while to figure this out, as I am kinda old and feeble minded...... ;)

I'll give one example, no names mentioned so as to protect the guilty:

Two knives, $15 shipping for each = $30.
Shipped to me in one box that cost $8.95 to ship.
No insurance, no tracking,no delivery confirmation.
That leaves $21.05 as addition profit to the shipper.

Knives were wrapped up in USPS Priority boxes that had been sliced up to make a "cover" for them, closed by a couple of pieces of duct tape.
All chunked in a box and stuffed with a few wads of newspaper.

I'll be the first to admit that it is that persons "right" to do that.....
......... but, now that I have figured out what the person is doing and just how much they are actually making off of shipping alone.....
.........it is my "right" to never deal with them again and to never recommend them to anyone.
And if anyone asks... to tell them to go elsewhere.]

MORIMOTOM said:
that is very different from advertising a price difference to accommodate paypal fees.
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+1.... Very well said also. :thumbup:

IF a buyer offers to cover fees...... totally different story. The seller is not requiring or asking.
 
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