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Classified Rant, I can't hold back any longer...
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In addition to bad descriptors are the scumbags who charge a higher percentage fee for Paypal than Paypal actually charges. Some clown in the Folders section is demanding Paypal Gift or 5.9%(!!?) right now. I can't stand people sometimes.
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Ill chime in now..
you can ask anyone ive bought knives from here (although no one will) that I ask a lot of questions. Even if some of the questions have been answered in the description of said knife. That usually covers any areas that might be well, not covered in the description. Being a member of the auction site for 14 years where I sold and bought mainly guitars ive learned to ask any and all questions.
And when im selling a knife here on BF I always put in my terms if you have any questions please ask,im happy to answere any and all of them.
That pretty much covers all areas that could be a potential hazard in the buying/selling process.
out of 80+ positives here i haven't had a bad deal. Although I had one member tell me I ask too many questions and he would rather me not buy from him,(you know who you are) that sounded like they were being deceptive so...........
you can ask anyone ive bought knives from here (although no one will) that I ask a lot of questions. Even if some of the questions have been answered in the description of said knife. That usually covers any areas that might be well, not covered in the description. Being a member of the auction site for 14 years where I sold and bought mainly guitars ive learned to ask any and all questions.
And when im selling a knife here on BF I always put in my terms if you have any questions please ask,im happy to answere any and all of them.
That pretty much covers all areas that could be a potential hazard in the buying/selling process.
out of 80+ positives here i haven't had a bad deal. Although I had one member tell me I ask too many questions and he would rather me not buy from him,(you know who you are) that sounded like they were being deceptive so...........
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+1
How about the member, who just recently got called out here in the GBU, for selling what he described as a "LNIB Spyderco PM2"? Turns out, his PM2 looked like a big time user with a myriad of issues! FYI: the member (buyer) forwarded me the communication between the two, & that was what was most bothersome...his indignant attitude regarding his blatant deceit, was beyond pathetic!
Now- he just listed a new sales thread, & instead of coming back on here with an improved, humble, possibly more contrite, attitude; this is what HIS, terms of sale are now:
- Payment through Paypal , prices are net to me either via gift or add 4% for goods.
- Shipping within the United States only, Will ship within 2 days, will send tracking to your email.
- I reserve the right to refuse to sell to anyone.
-18 years and older only
- All sales final. Refunds are completely at my discretion.
"ALL SALES FINAL. REFUND ARE COMPLETELY AT MY DISCRETION"
Really?
"Gift or add 4% for Goods"
You need to squeeze an extra 1.1% into your pocket- & impose YOUR fees, onto the member's you are hoping will buy your knives???
Here's one for you: Refund's, are not at YOUR discretion! When you lie, & inaccurately describe an item...it becomes, PayPal's discretion...as long as member's are prudent, & pay seller's like you, via PayPal Goods...
Until BFC gets in to the market of being a knife broker and setting specific standards for listing, ^this right here is what's up. It is on the buyer to take the risks when buying a knife not from the dealer.
You are talking about awooga142. How some people are allowed to continue to be part of our community after such disasters is boggling. On of them has a stick dedicated to him at the top of the GB&U. Still posting and still selling.
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If you pay GIFT... YOU BE DA FOOL...........
I have made my corrections in the recent past for the most part
in my selling practices--NO one is perfect..
THE price is the price unless otherwise stated..
FOR example ..A Big Box-- I might add a fee--NORMALLY I end up waiving it.
I have sent a COURTESY PM too new folks
Informing them regarding paying with GIFT OPTION..
And too steer clear of GIFT option only sellers.
JUST a trying to give them a HEADS UP THING..Newbies..Ya Know..
AND I Still see sellers using gift option only and BUYERS using GIFT??
Puzzled too say the least..NOT everyone in here is that trustworthy..THE very very
small amount idiots take advantage and THIEVE-LURK-PREY on the 95% of the GOOD
folks in here..
There is protection for the person you paid.They have your $CASH$..
You have squat..
I have used GIFT for close buddies in here..WHOM I have a very tight trusting
friendship with.. NEW folks..NEVER Pay with the GIFT..Option..
Returns..Here it is to the LETTER..
YOU DO NOT spend the money you received for the item..UNTIL it is approved
and the deal is DONE on both ends. NO BRAINER I would think..NOT so much..
THAT means PEOPLE.. YOU wait until the knife is received by the buyer...
Also..IF IT is not what the buyer expected and or YOUR DESCRIPTION is not
what they bought..YOU OWE THEM THEIR cash back.. NO QUESTIONS.. DONE-DEAL..
Thats how we ROLL IN HERE.......Not in the liking mood of how we all handle ourselves in
this BF Community--MOVE ALONG.. Other fine forums too get involved with..
Thank you all for having me..It is a pleasure to be apart of BF..NOT a right....
==Keith==
I have made my corrections in the recent past for the most part
in my selling practices--NO one is perfect..
THE price is the price unless otherwise stated..
FOR example ..A Big Box-- I might add a fee--NORMALLY I end up waiving it.
I have sent a COURTESY PM too new folks
Informing them regarding paying with GIFT OPTION..
And too steer clear of GIFT option only sellers.
JUST a trying to give them a HEADS UP THING..Newbies..Ya Know..
AND I Still see sellers using gift option only and BUYERS using GIFT??
Puzzled too say the least..NOT everyone in here is that trustworthy..THE very very
small amount idiots take advantage and THIEVE-LURK-PREY on the 95% of the GOOD
folks in here..
There is protection for the person you paid.They have your $CASH$..
You have squat..
I have used GIFT for close buddies in here..WHOM I have a very tight trusting
friendship with.. NEW folks..NEVER Pay with the GIFT..Option..
Returns..Here it is to the LETTER..
YOU DO NOT spend the money you received for the item..UNTIL it is approved
and the deal is DONE on both ends. NO BRAINER I would think..NOT so much..
THAT means PEOPLE.. YOU wait until the knife is received by the buyer...
Also..IF IT is not what the buyer expected and or YOUR DESCRIPTION is not
what they bought..YOU OWE THEM THEIR cash back.. NO QUESTIONS.. DONE-DEAL..
Thats how we ROLL IN HERE.......Not in the liking mood of how we all handle ourselves in
this BF Community--MOVE ALONG.. Other fine forums too get involved with..
Thank you all for having me..It is a pleasure to be apart of BF..NOT a right....
==Keith==
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Coins and stamps have far fewer condition points to consider, at least from the little I know about grading stamps and coins.
The post below makes a case for how difficult it would be to grade the condition of the knife.
I think common sense and honesty are the only real ways to grade knives. The sticky guidelines are a good resource for new sellers, buyers and knuckleheads.
wolfmann601
Gone, but not forgotton. RIP Ira.
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How about just allowing for a three day inspection period from the date of delivery?
Not happy, not as described, just return it with no questions asked
Might work, yes?
Not happy, not as described, just return it with no questions asked
Might work, yes?
^^^ A lot of what Keith said here is really key.
Just to keep this short, my interactions on this forum well beyond the exchange have helped me to get to know many members either directly or indirectly.
You get a good feel for who certain people are through reading their posts and interacting with them in threads.
The ideologies, morals, beliefs (etc) that we display on other parts of this forum over a period of time is who we are.
That is transferable to who we are as sellers and buyers as well.....
Going to refer to this post when I decide to "thin the herd" since I have only been a buyer and not a seller. I have bought most of my knives here on the exchange and only had one issue. I have received some super clean knives have dealt with some professional members. The problem with asking for more photos and a million questions is that someone could snatch it up in the meantime. I always trip out on the number scale system to describe the condition if the knife and the LNIB but stropped or sharpened. I think its important to visit the GBU to get up to speed on dirtbag sellers. I have seen sellers post if you are not happy you can send it back for a refund or put on the first sentence that if you are a collector not to look further since the knives are used. This is off topic but what's up with sellers trying to save a buck and send you the knife in an envelope and people who don't leave feedback.
You have to weigh losing a knife because you asked all the right questions vs getting something that is a headache.
I will take option #1!
There are great people on here that will give you that time as long as you are the first to make contact with them.
I never liked 'an unconditional I'll take it over rides everything'
The thing is, there are all kinds of sellers with every motivation you can imagine, positive and negative.
Feedback is optional, just have to live with that, but again, good sellers are usually also good members that take this all seriously.
They sell right with patience for questions. Describe knives accurately, and take the time to upload great pictures.
They also leave feedback.
I don't like this as a 'rule' because I am not a fan of 'test pilots' and that may encourage that.
PP takes care of any issues related to 'not as described' or worse very well as it is.
I am still waiting for a thread on how someone tried to return a knife using PP after having it for months, maybe over a year.
That should be an interesting one!!
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I saw an ad the other day with PAYPAL GIFT or add 5.9% for Goods. Oh and prices were FIRM.
Had to do a double take. Assumed it was a typo and they meant 2.9%. It's been edited since then so I suppose not. Oh well. They're still making money but its not coming from me.
As for the condition of knives for sale, I always try to be pessimistic and describe everything i see wrong as accurately as i can.
Sure some people will read the description and look at the pictures and pass on it. I take pride when the buyer lets me know they received their knife and it came as described or better than.
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I love the freedom of BFC and not being policed with unnecessary guidelines or rules. Is it really that hard to be a honest seller, practice due diligence as a buyer, and settle things amicably if needed??? I say no, and the overall success of the exchange in general proves that.
Let's face it..... some people will need their hands held, bottoms wiped, and face cleaned no matter how well you've taught them. Though for most of us, that level of services is not needed. Speaking metaphorically of course.
Let's face it..... some people will need their hands held, bottoms wiped, and face cleaned no matter how well you've taught them. Though for most of us, that level of services is not needed. Speaking metaphorically of course
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GBU has become required reading for me. I've learned as much or more than the stickys governing the various threads. That out of the way, I wanted to make a couple of comments. First, I feel grateful to posters who sell with "gift only." or "add 5.9%. I do get a little steamed, but silently thank them for making it easy to move on. I also remember them, and would never transact with them. A friend or family would never ask for 5.9% additional. So no transaction for you (thank you Soup Nazi).
Secondly, please ask as many questions as you want before hitting the PP Send. I really don't mind if you ask a ton of questions. If you don't ask a lot of questions, then I will. Clarity and being on the same page, more often than not, will lead to a successful transaction. Do what you need to do in order to settle your mind that you really want the item I'm selling. But... If after that, I get a strong vibe from you of doubt and uncertainty, then I will turn into the anti-salesman and will do whatever it takes to dissuade you from buying.
Secondly, please ask as many questions as you want before hitting the PP Send. I really don't mind if you ask a ton of questions. If you don't ask a lot of questions, then I will. Clarity and being on the same page, more often than not, will lead to a successful transaction. Do what you need to do in order to settle your mind that you really want the item I'm selling. But... If after that, I get a strong vibe from you of doubt and uncertainty, then I will turn into the anti-salesman and will do whatever it takes to dissuade you from buying.
I love the freedom of BFC and not being policed with unnecessary guidelines or rules. Is it really that hard to be a honest seller, practice due diligence as a buyer, and settle things amicably if needed??? I say no, and the overall success of the exchange in general proves that.
Let's face it..... some people will need their hands held, bottoms wiped, and face cleaned no matter how well you've taught them. Though for most of us, that level of services is not needed. Speaking metaphorically of course
^^^This
You can't make rules for common sense. Being a decent person and using your brain a little is all that is required to buy and sell on this site. Unfortunately there are no rules that can be created that can completely prevent people from doing other wise.
