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George Hill

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I can understand the reason for doing this... but I am still not really happy to see that happen. It had its use...
Especially since I wanted to post my used Emerson Raven for trade for a used SIFU...

[This message has been edited by George Hill (edited 06-07-2000).]
 
I agree. I hate sounding like a whiner since I do not have a problem with the forum making some needed $$ but I HATEthe new set up. It is all work and absolutely no fun to browse around. I enjoyed the old forum so much......

As Garth said...."I hate change"

I really dislike the new classifieds. I wish we could keep the old one and pay the fee for posting.
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Half the reason for visiting has gone and the new format suck massively. The inhumanity
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Eric, yeah.. was wondering about that, too. I guess we also have to pay to do some swapping/trading.
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Dan
 
It would seem to me that since Trades don't generally include money as the major factor, you could just post what you want in the "Wanted" section for free, and post what you have as an offer for the trade?

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Brandon

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I've got the schizophrenic blues
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Viva La " Knives For Sale/Trade: Individual "

It's been great, it's been fun and I will miss all of the great folks that I have met here. The wife loves it, less money spent on the credit card and nasty old knives.

Take Care All and Stay Safe

sarge
 
Sarge, I can already hear most of the wives doing a chorus on that issue.. lol...

Dan
 
Well guys, I don't see what there is to complain about... I opened the free trade section, so you traders can trade all your knives for free right now, without charges. Selling items still has a charge, but trading is free....

Spark

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Kevin Jon Schlossberg
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Sorry Spark but the layout of the new site just sucks.Hard to get around, slow.I dont mind having to pay a little for my ads, but the new system just aint going to work out.This is a knife site get rid of the other junk catagories.You dont need to seperate all the different knives into their own catagories.Thanks for the free trade section, but I dont think thats enough.
Matt (Pontiaker)
 
This aint the only Knife swap and sell site on the net ,I believe Rade Hawkin's has a section for this as well as Knifeforums and a couple of others ,Just my .02

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TbarK Custom Knives
http://vip.hpnc.com/~tbark Therefore I erge you brother's in view of God's Mercy to offer your body's as living sacrifices holy and pleasing to God-this is your spiritual act of worship Romans 12-1
 
Well guys, I don't know what to tell you.

We've already hashed out the arguments about price and all the rest. Layout is pretty easy to use, and offers a lot more user friendly features than the UBB software - it's just different, which is something everyone has to get used to.

If you don't want to use it, don't. I'm not going to twist your arm about it. If you want to go elsewhere - go. I can't force you to stay here.

I've done everything in my power to make this site work - and the auctions and classifieds are the latest in a long series of attempts to get this site to pay for itself. Sorry if it inconveniences anyone, but thems the breaks - I can't afford to keep throwing money away for nothing in return.

You guys want to continue using this site? Then we have to change how things work here, because we can't keep it open with how things are now. The Suggestion Box is always open.

Spark

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Kevin Jon Schlossberg
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Wow ! You guys must be doing pretty good to be talking to your potential customers like that. Sounds a lot like " don't let the sun set on ya, @#$$%& !!

No arguement here, but sheesh !
 
If it came to a choice between losing this great site and getting used to the new format, well, I could get used to it
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. I'd even pay a dreaded subscription if you'd accept my credit card
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Spark, after reading some of the replies about the new classified section, I think it is mostly an issue of the new format being so different from all the other forums. Not a question of money, but the ease of navigating the new clasified section. Some people seem to be having trouble adjusting to the new format. Just my IMHO.
 
I can see where you're coming from, Cumberland, but on the other hand ... are we really customers?

Every time I make a post on Bladeforums it costs Mike money. Not much for one post, of course, but it costs him money; he doesn't make any money from it. If it's a good post and attracts more people to read this site -- that means it'll cost him more money. I've never given him a cent ... I've never even bought anything from www.1stopknifeshop.com (yet). How can I consider myself a customer when I've never bought anything? If I take offense at something Mike says or Spark says and stop hanging out at Bladeforums ... Mike won't be losing a customer, losing profits -- he'll be losing an expense -- not much of an expense for one member, I grant you, but still, he'll be losing an expense, not a profit.

Obviously Mike doesn't look at it that way ... he's trying to attract more members, not drive us away ... but if you look at it from a narrow viewpoint of real-world dollars and cents -- he should try to drive us away. He'd save only a tiny amount of money for each member he drove off, but if he drove off all of us then he could close Bladeforums and save himself a very substantial monthly expense.

I'm not trying to lay a guilt trip on anybody ... obviously Mike doesn't see this place only in terms of dollars and cents; we are welcome here and we don't have to feel guilty about being here ... but next time I buy a knife online I'm going to see if www.1stopknifeshop.com has the knife I want, and if I want to sell a knife ... I won't complain if I have to pay a dollar for the ad. Of course that's just me ... others can complain if they want to ... complaints are welcome on this forum.
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-Cougar :{)
 
No Cougar, that's not what I mean. They have this new classified section that charges anyone posting a knife for sale. That makes anyone posting a knife for sale a customer. As do the auctions. Surely you can see the trend. Some things that were free (not a customer), are now being charged for( a customer). I don't mind the changes myself, and have already taken use of the auction section. But, more and more of the forum members are bound to become customers under the new system. And isn't everyone on here, prodded a little to become a customer of 1sks, to help support the forum ? And Mike and Spark are 1sks, so...

P.S. I have already been spoken to this way, in relation to me, as a paid banner advertizer, so yeah, its potential customer.

No complaints, but we must call it like it is.

[This message has been edited by Cumberland Knives (edited 06-09-2000).]
 
Cumberland, sarge - if my response sounds like "don't let the door hit you in the ass", I apologize, but at this point, I'm finished arguing about the classifieds. They are there, They are not going anywhere, and they solve the majority of the problems we had.

When people make statements like "It's hard! It's Slow! This isn't the only place out there!" I don't have a lot of room for response. You can either learn how to use it, or don't, it's your choice. Arguing that it's not hard, it's not slow, and all the rest doesn't do anything to solve any problems - especially since there aren't any specifics being argued about! Point to a problem and I'll work on it - it's called constructive criticism. It's how problems are solved.

The classifieds software isn't exactly hard to use. It's extremely feature rich. It's got lots of neat things. Trades and want ads are still free. You can browse by category, or section, or search for keywords, or do any of the other things that the UBB *can't* and *doesn't* offer.

Past that guys, I can't see a reason for complaining. I can't solve problems or make unhappy people happy without having something to work with.

Some people aren't going to be happy no matter what we do, and no matter how much we explain - and so, instead of arguing further I'm going to have to say "Do what you have to do." By now, you guys should more than understand our reasons for doing this and how it helps everyone in the long run.

If you feel that you must leave because you just *can't* get used to the new format, I guess it's goodbye, Vaya con Dios, and best of luck to you, because things change and sometimes you just have to get used to the changes. You had to get used to the UBB when you first started using it, after all.

I'm through arguing about it, because it's not worth it to me anymore. I'm not seeing any new arguments, or any new complaints. If you have something specific - I'll be more than happy to work it out with you. Otherwise, I'm all out of options.

So, guys, it's up to you now. Either you can use this neat software we got and help keep this site open, or you can not use it. Your choice. The Discussion Forums haven't changed... just the For Sale. If you only came for the For Sale posts, then this should be great for you, because it's going to be even easier than before - after you get used to it.

Spark

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[This message has been edited by Spark (edited 06-09-2000).]
 
You're certainly a customer, Cumberland -- one of the people who are helping to keep this place going. And while I'm here I want to say to everybody else: buying from Cumberland Knives and the other paying advertisers is supporting this site, too -- maybe not as directly as buying from 1sks, but it's still doing your bit.

Okay, okay, I'm noodging....
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-Cougar :{)
 
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