Close For Sale or Trade by InDuhviduals

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Spark - Sorry about this... this was just one way of mentioning:
"Especially since I wanted to post my used Emerson Raven for trade for a used SIFU..."

See?

I didnt see the free trade section at the time I posted that.
I have since posted this there...
I wasnt biotching or anything... just bein a bastage...

You can close this... please...
 
George, I saw that, and I hope you are able to trade your knives for something you want.

I wasn't directing it towards you, but just in the general direction of those who are willing to complain, but unwilling to help me find a solution. Everyone has an opinion, right?

Spark

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Kevin Jon Schlossberg
SysOp and Administrator for BladeForums.com

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Spark,
Do you see every post as a complaint? These are just formites conversing and wishing out loud for old times sake. I guess it goes to the old saying "Is the water glass half full or half empty? I see the photo of you in the Tutu and on one hand think, he's probably ok, then I read one of your acid replies to a hapless member venting frustration and I just don't know.

You only see the Individual for Sale Forum as a method for selling knives for free. We saw it as a vehicle to buy knives and comment on various knives and items for sale. I like others found this particular forum along with Tactics & Training, the Good, Bad, and Ugly to be my personal favorites. That does not make me wrong or you right. Just personal preferences. Your looking for a monetary solution (rightly so) and I'm looking at a social solution.

WE KNOW THAT IT ONLY COSTS $1.49 TO POST A CLASSIFIED AD. I THINK THE PRICE IS MORE THAN REASONABLE. IF THAT IS TOO HIGH, LET THEM SELL ELSEWHERE.

When I had a problem with the new BladeAuction site. I rectified it myself after automatic notification failure, e-mails and telephone calls went unanswered.

Yes, I know that you were partying hardy at the BladeShow, but it's been made very clear that this is a for profit business not a hobby. I'd thought that somebody would have been minding the store checking e-mails, telephone messages or even monitoring the site.

I did also note that you stated "Trades were free, for now". Is that also planned to go by the wayside?

I have only bought here, from you (WOW), BladeForums Auction, from individuals and from dealers, I take that back, I did make one trade.

I love the site, but not all that goes on here. Sometimes, it feels like there is an evil twisted enigma that must escape and attempt to reek verbal vengeance on the members.

Yes, I know that I can go elsewhere, and Maybe I will but I'm staying for now. Will I continue to purchase here? Only if there is much needed improvement in the automated software. I know that the software is still new and bugs must be worked out as is the nature of the beast. I did not find it slow or apprehensible just not as appealing or as sociable as the old format.

We like the site, most people are resistant to change, we are not whining only stating personal opinions about our preferences. 24 years as a cop has toughened me beyond belief, so my feelings are not easily hurt.

sarge
 
YeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeHaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!
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Give 'em hell Hoosier!!
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Your wasting your typing skills.....

"Like I dun gone an said a hunderd tymes bafour, da jest don't git it"
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It never did, and never will mean to them what it has meant to the user's. I'm NOT trying to start another FLAMER here, just stating the simple facts...... And anyone that points that out is likely to get a good dose of Napalm tossed in their shorts .....

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***Nomex Alert***
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Danger Danger Will Robinson.....Hazardous flame area ahead!! Please adjust shorts for fire hazard
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Look guys, I'm just an average schmoe, just like the rest of you. Put yourself in my shoes for a sec -

You bust your ass for almost 2 years to provide something that no one else on the net has done. You go out of your way to help newbies, gather the veterans, and bring in manufacturers. You spend enough to pay for half of a house in the interest of bettering the industry as a whole.

Then, when you realize that "hey, this isn't working, I can't afford to continue this" you get a bunch of people bitching and moaning about how things "used to be" and how something "great has died" and how "mercenary" you are, and how you are just "in it for a buck", and all the rest. I guess it's the entitlement generation like some others said.

Now, maybe I am a bit too close to this, but IMHO, this is pretty ****ed up. I don't see anyone else out there doing what we are, at anywhere near the levels we are. But, we're here taking all the crap for trying to do the right thing, and maybe get a fraction back of what we've put into it. Heck, we even go out of our way to solicit input and opinions before we do anything major, and catch grief for it.

So, if you were me, would you be getting a bit tired and frustrated with the bitching? Most likely so.

So we went to the Blade Show and no one was here to monitor the site for a few days. I guess all the times I'm up at 0400 fixing problems for you guys don't count then. Or all the weekends I spend fixing things behind the scenes. Excuse us for putting the long term goals of the site and how we can help the industry ahead of the short term of staying back and plodding along.

Heck, I almost had to drive 7 hours back on Monday when the server was down and I was in South Carolina. But, I got it back up and running remotely. Am I complaining? No, it's my job. Did the phones go unanswered? Sure. Did the emails get ignored? No, we're still working through them (remember, we get 3-500 a day). You just have to be patient.

So, do me a favor and cut us a little slack. Give us some credit for the fact that we do a lot of things right indeed. But before you get all offended that I'm sick and tired of non-productive complaining, put yourself in my shoes for a second.

This isn't BitchAndMoanForums.com. It's about knives. Do I see every post as a complaint? No - but don't tell me an obvious complaint is really just sugary kisses, because I'm not buying it.

You mention that the site is "For Profit" - guess what? This is exactly the sort of erroneous assumption that get's my ire up. Of course, how could I be so blind - $1 per classified ad is just going to rake in all the dollars! Excuse the sarcasm, but damn guys, how many different ways do I have to explain it? Heck, Sarge, every time you hear that all cops are racist nazi's who's only job is to bully people, harrass minorities, and take money on the side, I'm sure you just feel all sunshine and roses, right?

That's why I'm done arguing. It's useless. I'm not going to convince all of you, so I'm just going to go about doing the best job I can in making this site the best it is.
We've taken all the shots before, and have consitently done the right thing. Nothing's changed. Take a hard look and you'll see that for yourself.

Spark

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Kevin Jon Schlossberg
SysOp and Administrator for BladeForums.com

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Yup, give it some time guys.
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And let me tell you that Spark does deserve credit. A great site administrator is the one you don't realy see working BECAUSE EVERYTHING APPEARS TO BE MAGICALLY RUNNING all the time. I say that as I know a thing or two about computers
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Spark, things people complain about indicate that you definitely got the most important stuff right! Forgive people "missing the old form" though. I'll miss it for a while too
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Cheer up everybody,
Kris
 
Well Spark you have done it again, another masterpiece.

I read your latest post with complete dismay. I copied the following quote from it:

>Then, when you realize that "hey, this isn't working, I can't afford to continue this" you get a bunch of people bitching and moaning about how things "used to be" and how something "great has died" and how "mercenary" you are, and how you are just "in it for a buck", and all the rest. I guess it's the entitlement generation like some others said.>

The bitching about how things used to be is called "nostalgia". It is perfectly normal for humans to think about the past with these kind feelings. Something great has died, and the sad thing is, your to obtuse to see it. You are "in it for a buck" and every post concerning that issue, that I have written always said that you were entitled to it. I have always complimented you and Mike on what a great site this is and how hard the both of you have worked to make it that way. If anyone is from the "entitlement generation", it is you.

The soliciting ideas comment is a joke. Why ask, you never take a suggestion, just implement the plan. That is not wrong, just quit asking us and tell us what your about to do.

More from your post:

>This isn't BitchAndMoanForums.com. It's about knives. Do I see every post as a complaint? No - but don't tell me an obvious >complaint is really just sugary kisses, because I'm not buying it.>

At least you named it correctly, it is BitchAndMoanForums.com but you made it that way. Just read your replies and posts over the last 2 years. "I'm so overworked, I'm so poor, I just spent all my money, I had to leave the party early to fix the server, You just don't understand me. Did you ever think that the rest of us have stress and problems in our lives? Did you ever think that maybe we were working 80 hours a week, we needed more money, we had illness or we had spousal problems. No Spark, I don't think you have, because it is all about you. But the big difference is "We are your customers".

Another quote from you:

>Sarge, every time you hear that all cops are racist nazi's who's only job is to bully people, harass minorities, and take money on the side, I'm sure you just feel all sunshine and roses, right?>

Your right, that makes me very angry, NOT at the person who said that, but at the cops who are racist, who are bullies and who are on the take. They, give the rest of us a bad name. Yes, it does happen and I do not have my head in the sand and deny it. You are always wanting to shoot the messenger because you do not like to hear the news.

Now a comment from my earlier post:

>When I had a problem with the new BladeAuction site last week. I rectified it myself after automatic >notification failure, e-mails and telephone calls went unanswered.>

>Yes, I know that you were partying hardy at the BladeShow, but it's been made very clear that this is a for profit business not a >hobby. I'd thought that somebody would have been minding the store checking e-mails, telephone messages or even monitoring >the site.

Sorry it is a business not a hobby, and that does not excuse you from poor service. There was no posting at the BladeAuction site that you were gone and that the e-mails and telephones would go unanswered while you were gone. Was that the same at 1SKS? When someone posts in the Good, Bad and Ugly about 1SKS's poor service or missed communication, you are right on it about "how they should have waited or handled it differently". Well defending your own is ok, but there are problems with 1SKS and BladeAuctions, just like any other normal business. How many times is Brian at Discount Knives raked over the coals for miscommunication, not answering the phone or not answering e-mails? That is the nature of a mail order or E-Business. Successful businesses work to end those problems or minimize them to continue on as a viable business.

Another quote from my post, since you did not address this in your reply:

>I did also note that you stated "Trades were free, for now". Is that also planned to go by the wayside?>

It doesn't bother me because I'm not a big trader, just curious.

Another quote from your reply:

>You mention that the site is "For Profit" - guess what? This is exactly the sort of erroneous >assumption that get's my ire up. Of course, how could I be so blind - $1 per classified ad is just >going to rake in all the dollars! Excuse the sarcasm, but damn guys, how many different ways do I >have to explain it?

Well explain it again, Not a Hobby, a for profit Business. If $1.49 is not going to bring you a profit or at least allow you to break even, then why do it at all?

Now I agree Spark, I'm tired of beating my head against the wall and writing posts that are not read or understood. It is a waste of my time.

But, I will restate my points from my posts.

I liked this site.

I really liked the "Knives for Sale, Trade, Individual Forum". Not for the sales, but for the people that I met there.

I have bought from this site, WOW, BladeForums Store, BladeForumsAuction, dealers and individuals.

Mike and Spark deserve a profit because it is a business not a hobby.

Now, a final quote from your last reply:

>That's why I'm done arguing. It's useless. I'm not going to convince all of you, so I'm just going to go about doing the best job I can >in making this site the best it is. We've taken all the shots before, and have consistently done the right thing. Nothing's changed. >Take a hard look and you'll see that for yourself.

I feel like that I'm at a Buy Here, Pay Here lot and they just wheeled out a 1985 Pinto with 300,000 miles on it and the salesman says"It was owned by a little old lady who only drove it to church on Sundays".

And Spark you need to follow your own advice, "Take a hard look and you'll see that for yourself".

sarge,
 
Now this is turning into personal attacks on Spark which are totally inappropriate and too stupid to be worth refuting so I'm locking this thread.

I don't know, maybe Spark will be annoyed with me for locking the thread before he gets a chance to respond to the personal attacks, but I think it would be pointless for you to answer any of this nonsense, Spark. It answers itself ... it doesn't need to be refuted.


-Cougar :{)
 
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