code 3 is out of control......

mycroftt said:
Shouldn't this be posted in the Service and Support forum?
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I agree with Mycroft. This needs to be in the Service and Support forum. This is not the place to discuss this issue. Complaints about a Mod should not be discussed here.

Take it to Service and Support and ask for clarification from Code 3, and if you need Spark's input, that would be the place for it.

I don't think you should be dissing a Mod in Community. Just my opinion.
 
I'll agree with VTW: the infraction was completely uncalled for.
I thought that the purpose of the "no chatter" rule was to keep thread sizes down?
So what is smaller? One thread offering a knife for sale, and allowing multiple people to offer to buy it, in case the first sale falls through, or creating new threads every time a sale falls through?

It seems to me that 1 thread with 4 responses takes up less room than 4 different threads . . .
Heck, how much room are we taking up by complaining about what happened to VTW?

Additionally, a post of "second in line" is hardly chatter. VTW saw that the knife was sold, but expressed his interest in buying the knife if the first deal fell through.
He did NOT post anything lamenting the lost opportunity to purchase the knife and he did not comment about the quality of the knife.
Where is the chatter?

The infraction point should be removed from VTW's account.
 
An addition to the rules is needed if this is going to be how it is moderated.

ie No "Next in Line" posts...

Then all would be clear. Would be easy enough to say "I'm next" via e-mail or pm but to enforce a rule that has not been posted causes confusion.
 
Bastid said:
Yup.

And the thread starter should actually get dinged for posting it here.
I have a feeling this was just a mistake. They happen.

Moving to S&S for now.
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I think that VTW's post was ok in the exchange - he was stating his willingness to purchase the knife - I don't know why CODE3 hasn't replied, yet. I too want to believe it was a mistake.

And a 'ding' for starting the thread in the wrong forum is just proof of 'dingy' moderating, in my opinion.
 
Bastid said:
Yup.

And the thread starter should actually get dinged for posting it here.
I have a feeling this was just a mistake. They happen.

Moving to S&S for now.
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actually i didnt want it in the service area and dont like that its been moved..... service and making the community aware are two very different things.
 
I do not know if it "should have" been moved. Not my call of course - but the "community" should be awair of what is going on and be able to discuss it.

And perhpas I should get dinged for daring to comment - but hey thats not my call either - is it? :rolleyes:
 
No it is neither of your calls. :rolleyes:


Like or not when you have a problem with the site or how it is moderated.

Post it here not in community.

Sheesh.
 
Rat,

He did not get a ding, but you just did.

Check your facts.

Regards,
Dingy Mod.
 
valleytinworks said:
actually i didnt want it in the service area and dont like that its been moved..... service and making the community aware are two very different things.
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Pretty weak argument as I see it.

Your thread has a moved sign in community and it is also here. By normal logic that means it has more exposure than it would by being in community and more people would be made "aware".

As far as the incident that brought this on I think it was a mistake, but I could easily be mistaken.
 
Seems to me that post number three in the original thread was clearly a violation of the rules. Was a "nice snag" post.

But a "next in line" post by VTW seems ok. Unless like I said before there is to be a new rule. Which of course is up to the powers that be. Let's not forget that we are visitors here...this is the house that Spark built.
 
Bastid said:
Rat,

He did not get a ding, but you just did.

Check your facts.
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Thanks - But which facts do you speak of? I was referring to the post he made in the exchange, and his posting in the community about it.

Which is incorrect?

And, am I not allowed to express my opinion about the moderation of the board in the Service and Support? Or just in this thread?

Please advise,

John

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Dear Rat-30,

You have received an infraction at BladeForums.com.

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4543996

Reason: Sassin' the Mods
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But you have one now.
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This infraction is worth 40 point(s) and may result in restricted access until it expires. Serious infractions will never expire.

All the best,
BladeForums.com
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g_moutafis said:
I got a similar message for the same thread: http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/private.php?do=showpm&pmid=207648 .

I really wasn't aware that my comment constitutes an infraction of the Bladeforums guidelines. Is this considered a "chatter":confused: ?
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Yes, your post was chatter for sure. Anything not directly related to saying "I'll take it", putting it in for the item if the deal falls through, asking for more info or pics and the like is chatter. I hope that helps clarify it.

In CODE3's defense, I have given an infraction to the wrong person for whatever reason. It happens, I apologized and tried to be more sure of who I had on the hook. If it was a mistake it will shake down. Piling on CODE3 before he responds doesn't do anything but increase the temperature in here.
 
Bastid said:
Rat,

He did not get a ding, but you just did.

Check your facts.
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:confused: :confused: :confused:

What did Rat do... and why does he get a ding??? Check what facts??? :confused: :confused:

I agree that what VTW posted was OK... I have seen it several times in the exchange. I do hope it was a mistake and not some kind of grudge finding it's way into what should be an unbiased perspective.

I also agree that this should be allowed in the community area... what's the deal??? Can't discuss mod behavior where everybody typically visits??? Sounds a bit "big Brother-ish" to me. :(

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Rat-30 said:
And a 'ding' for starting the thread in the wrong forum is just proof of 'dingy' moderating, in my opinion.
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Rat-30 got a 40 point infraction for stating an opinion? I am sorry moderators- I know that sassing or insulting the moderators is simply not allowed and understand the reasons why- but Rat-30 stated his opinion of the level of apparent moderation (in his opinion) and did not, strictly in MY opinion, in any way insult any moderator personally or specifically.


Does that really warrant a 40 point infraction? Had he called a moderator a name I would not be posting this- but he did not. Are we not allowed to publicly disagree with moderator action? Rat-30 could have done so with less agressive wording but I truly believe that this was his only intent.

And an aside. Rat-30 is not my friend. We are not buddies. To my knowledge, we have never exchanged so much as a hello before; this is just how I feel about one thing that has occured in this thread.
 
Thanks PG - Clairfication in a polite,respectful, consistant manner is always helpfull - on the other hand dings for discussing issues are something else..............
 
Rat-30 said:
And a 'ding' for starting the thread in the wrong forum is just proof of 'dingy' moderating, in my opinion.
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That is why. He was not dinged for starting a thread in the wrong forum. Like I said check your facts.

Regards,

Your dingy mod.
 
Rat-30 said:
I think that VTW's post was ok in the exchange - he was stating his willingness to purchase the knife - I don't know why CODE3 hasn't replied, yet. I too want to believe it was a mistake.

And a 'ding' for starting the thread in the wrong forum is just proof of 'dingy' moderating, in my opinion.
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Rat got a ding for "sassing" the mods for this post? Aren't we all adults here? Really, it's a forum and he posted an opinion, so he gets a ding? He's a paying member here and in my eyes this is getting a little ridiculous. We're supposed to be here to enjoy the forum and talk knives, or whatever else is on our minds. Why get everyone up in arms and ticked off for petty stuff, there's been enough more serious things going on in our country and the world then dinging each other here, watch the news and lets get back to having fun here, even if it's only for a brief moment to get away from the stresses in life!
 
:( I see nothing wrong with this. I do it to lock a possible sale if original buyer backs out. I have got a lot of knives being second in line!! Not only does it get you a knife you want but ensures the seller of definate sale.
Geeze????Pretty soon we will have to PM the seller and not even put a post on the for sale post
Horse Poo!!
 
In my opinion, if moderators are disallowing "second in line" type comments in the sales forum:

1) This needs to be clearly stated as a rule, since it is counter-intuitive;

2) This significantly lowers the value of the sales forum for paying members;

3) This creates an oppressive atmosphere that is likely to drive off even the members who try to follow the rules.

This looks to me like bad policy for all involved. I hope the decision is reconsidered.
 
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