Cold Steel Canadian Belt Knife

Keeping in mind that I'm a fan of Cold Steel knives, tomahawks, etc., consider this. If you are not familiar with the design in question, maybe getting the lower cost (?) copy by Cold Steel would let you try this knife out, and then, if you still feel feel the need or have the desire, save your money and order the real McCoy later on.
 
Dr. Mudd said:
Keeping in mind that I'm a fan of Cold Steel knives, tomahawks, etc., consider this. If you are not familiar with the design in question, maybe getting the lower cost (?) copy by Cold Steel would let you try this knife out, and then, if you still feel feel the need or have the desire, save your money and order the real McCoy later on.
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That was my original idea, but if I can get one of those "assemble it yourself" kits for just a few dollars more I'd rather go that route. I have a feeling I'll eventually end up with 2 or 3 of the variants once my budget allows. . . I like the looks of the larger version too, and I'll probably want one of the carbon steel ones.
 
"Or check out the new Canadian Special from Bark River. It uses A2 (carbon), and is of excellent quality."

Is that a Grohman knock off too, or another design?
 
Dr. Mudd said:
Keeping in mind that I'm a fan of Cold Steel knives, tomahawks, etc., consider this. If you are not familiar with the design in question, maybe getting the lower cost (?) copy by Cold Steel would let you try this knife out, and then, if you still feel feel the need or have the desire, save your money and order the real McCoy later on.
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I sort of went the opposite way. I love my Grohmann #1 very much, but I don't want to beat it up too much because it came to me under special circumstances. I really like the shape and how it handles, so when CS introduced theirs, I figured I'd give it a whirl. Aside from the shape, you can't really compare it to the original #1. As far as the durability of the steel, I will find out more as the camping season progresses. I am confident the CS CBK will live up to the expectations I hold for a $13 knife.

Original Design and CS CBK
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#4, #1 CS CBK, Frosts 780
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Horse said:
"Or check out the new Canadian Special from Bark River. It uses A2 (carbon), and is of excellent quality."

Is that a Grohman knock off too, or another design?
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It has a somewhat similar blade (the edge near the handle is straighter - not so curved), and the handle is at a straight angle to the blade, and also has finger grooves.

It follows the lines of the BRKT Mikro- and Mini-Canadians.
 
I really can't make up my mind about the Grohmann style. Does anyone have one that loves it for a primary woods knife? I can't decided if it's worth the money to gamble on likeing one or not. I've not used a blade style like that before...

I'll have to go abuse the search function for a while...
 
This is what was said at the bottom of the page.

NO WAY! I’m not going to be seen in public carrying an M2K in the factory sheath.

The Grohmann sheath is not a fair representation of the sheath that you will get with a new Model 1, somewhere along the line, the original leather was wet formed and dressed up with a bit of beadwork and some paracord. A flap style sheath is also available if you choose.

On/Scene Tactical has developed a Kydex sheath for the M2K, my Mora 2000 will be riding in style as soon as I can get one.

Both of these knives earned their reputations as great knives. The Grohmann #1 is also referred to as the “Design Award” knife and I can see why. It is a classic that would serve well as a camp knife on anyone’s belt. The $90 retail price is easily found deeply discounted making this a wonderful value for the outdoorsman seeking a classical addition to his kit.

However, the Mora 2000 outshines the Grohmann in actual hand friendliness. The Scandi design, hand filling handle and well shaped blade make this one a knife that will be lashed on to my pack, as soon as I can find a sheath for it. At $30 from Ragweed Forge, this must be one of the best values in the knife world.

The Grohmann; I’ll keep it, maybe it’ll become a "Loaner" for when I go camping with someone who doesn’t yet own a good knife. The #1s performance should be enough to convince anyone that a good knife is imperative.
 
Thanks much for the link! That was helpful. I think I'm almost convincing myself that I need one, haha. I'll just have to wait on it a bit and do more research. The #4 looks to be more up my alley than the #1, I would prefer the more full girp.

Thanks-
 
you know, its extremly comfy, good blade desgin, and if you can get on with a over flap sheath do it, or go for a custom from eric at onscene tactial.
 
I've been messin' around with a CBK for about a week. I wanted to try the design before I plunked down the cash for a Grohmann.

I do say I like the style and found the CS version surprisingly up to the tasks for an inexpensive knife. The sheath, though not fancy is utilitarian and the whole deal is very lightweight.

I tried shaving fuzz sticks, boned out a few chickens in the kitchen and cut some 1" dried maple branches with good results. The edge holds up and touches up quickly on a Sharpmaker.

I plan to get the real deal soon and keep the CS for yard chores and quick trips into the woods and river near home.
 
I used to buy a lot of junk, just a plain cheapskate I was. Now I like quality and it gives me a lot less stress over the long run. Lifes too short for Stress! I used to buy crappy copies of my golf equipment too, not anymore, that garbage just ends up in a landfill.
Anyway, the original is the way to go, the carbon does sharpen up quicker than the stainless but the stainless still holds an edge, and is great if you want to take it fishing etc, no worries. Anywho, just my two cents:thumbup:
 
Does anybody have any info on the Frosts (of Sweeden) model of the Grohman?? Years ago I bought one with laminated steel (I'll try to get some pics up later this weekend if I can) that only has minor differences. The Frosts is about 1/2" shorter and the handle is slightly beefier, as well the grind is lower on the blade. I bought it because it was laminated steel (says so on the blade and the center core is darkened). Sorry for the hijack.
 
CUTS LIKE A KRIS said:
Does anybody have any info on the Frosts (of Sweeden) model of the Grohman?? Years ago I bought one with laminated steel (I'll try to get some pics up later this weekend if I can) that only has minor differences. The Frosts is about 1/2" shorter and the handle is slightly beefier, as well the grind is lower on the blade. I bought it because it was laminated steel (says so on the blade and the center core is darkened). Sorry for the hijack.
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I honestly cant think of that knife, it woulde be nice to see a picture of it.
 
I have 3 or 4 grohmans one in carbon. I actually had better luck with the SS, though I generally prefer carbon. Either way they are all good knives. These aren't super knives, they are good edge holding knives for people sho use a knife for a living and know how to sharpen them.

A number of folks have mentioned the handle size, it works better than perhaps it looks since it has quite a flat cross-section. It's comfortable in a minimalist way. I guess you can batton it, though that seems a little ruthless. Its the kind of knife for the knife part of your work. I also carry an axe when I'm over the horizon for several weeks or months, if I'm in a canoe. i don't want to carry it on my back though. It's a good modern Nessmuk kind of deal.

These knives have been around for a long time, are worn by our army, I don't really see how they can be protected at this point any more than the knives in similar use in the US. It's an american design I believe.

I saw one recently on TV there was a reality show of sorts in which various Can. and US vets from Iraq and Af. got together to recreate Devil's brigade training etc... Their hand to hand guy was a Canadian, and he kicked his way through the balls of everyone no mater how "real" their previous deployments. The knife he was carrying was presumably the CF version of the Grohman, though it almost looked smaller, they also carried/studied a version of FS. Anyway, it was fun to see this little knife, not a modern macho knife, while this guy ripped everyone a new one.
 
CUTS LIKE A KRIS, that is really cool. A Canadian Belt Knife in Mora steel. . . Kind of a hybrid of what seem to be two of the most liked knives on this forum. I bet there are some folks that would LOVE to get their hands on one of those!
 
Knowing the way Cold Steel does things (all of the Carbon-V blades, aka 0170-6C tool steel, were actually made by Camillus), and due to the fact that they are reportedly using the same Krupp steel as Grohmann, and the shape and size of the blades are practically the same, I wouldn't be surprised if those CS knives were in fact a mass produced, low end version actually made by Grohmann for CS.

CS has a LOT more retail exposure than Grohmann, and CS selling an el-cheapo version of their knife gives Grohmann a lot of exposure to a market and to customers that might never have seen their knife styles before.
 
I have the #1,2,3, and 4, all in stainless - I've always wanted to get the carbon version to check out. Edge retention has never been a problem, but I find the flat grind far outperforms the saber grind for general use. The #1 is wonderfully balanced, but the handle is a little small for extended use (causes hot spots). The #2 is a great little neck knife. The #3 and 4 are my overall favorites for general use, and make a great pair. I'm surprised more people don't give the #3 a try, as it's a very lightweight carry with good geometry and balance. As an old school axe user, I've never had a need for or wanted a bigger knife than the #4 (or Buck 119).
I also have the 300 folder, which follows the lines of the #1, but with a thicker handle (more comfortable for me). While I like it a great deal, it's not really superior to my Buck 110/112's.
My last couple of purchases were from China Cupboard. Nice folks, good prices, and my last order made it from NS to California in about a week - not bad.
 
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