Cold steel cpm 3v chipped

[craytab]

We are not random anonymous people. Many folks here know each other. We all have post histories. The word of different people carries different weight. Getting worked up or defending a random Amazon review is ridiculous.

 

[RX-79G]

FYI, the 3V version of the Master Hunter is thinner with more distal taper than other versions. Where the reviewer's knife chipped the spine looks to be 1/8". With a FFG, that does not put a lot of steel thickness where the chip is.

And that is probably a good thing, since this is a hunting knife, not a survival or bushcraft knife. I'll bet it slices great:

 

[RX-79G]

We are not random anonymous people. Many folks here know each other. We all have post histories. The word of different people carries different weight. Getting worked up or defending a random Amazon review is ridiculous.

Pictures or it didn't happen.



The fact that a few of you think you "know" each other doesn't mean that everyone else needs to be called liars until you have decided they aren't.

Hey, maybe we're all in the Matrix, and none of this is happening.

 

[PURPLEDC]

The owner posted an explanation - in his Amazon review. Whether it was posted on BF or a different website hardly matters, because you can post lies anywhere you like on the internet.


If you would prefer to start with the belief that most people are lying, then why read anything on this anonymous website? Every time someone posts that they find their knife is hard to sharpen or they got some rust spots - call them a liar and be done with it.


It isn't like the reviewer made some sort of crazy claim. He HAMMERED his knife into a block of wood, and it chipped while doing so. This happens all the time, and 3V steel is not automatically immune to abuse damage.


This whole thread is, of course, unimportant speculation because it is only one knife. No manufacturer reputations are at risk, no matter what the cause. Which makes me wonder why you even have to go down the road of impugning the source of the story at all.


Calling everyone a liar all the time is bad manners.

What kind of manners allows someone to derail every thread they participate in with some holier than thou preaching over a non issue they insist on making an issue? There is no dragon in this thread put your sword away. Manners......... Thats rich.

Pictures or it didn't happen.

Yeah, very rich.

 

[marcinek]

The owner posted an explanation - in his Amazon review. Whether it was posted on BF or a different website hardly matters, because you can post lies anywhere you like on the internet.


If you would prefer to start with the belief that most people are lying, then why read anything on this anonymous website? Every time someone posts that they find their knife is hard to sharpen or they got some rust spots - call them a liar and be done with it.


It isn't like the reviewer made some sort of crazy claim. He HAMMERED his knife into a block of wood, and it chipped while doing so. This happens all the time, and 3V steel is not automatically immune to abuse damage.


This whole thread is, of course, unimportant speculation because it is only one knife. No manufacturer reputations are at risk, no matter what the cause. Which makes me wonder why you even have to go down the road of impugning the source of the story at all.


Calling everyone a liar all the time is bad manners.

They roll when batonning, they don't ping out half moon chips. Half moon chips come from twisting a knife while in wood while chopping. Just letting the "story" go without comment on our doubts does no one any good. Sticking ones head in the sand doesn't advance anybody's knowledge. It only hurts people considering buying the knife.

And who is calling everyone a liar all the time? Hyperbole.

 

[RX-79G]

What kind of manners allows someone to derail every thread they participate in with some holier than thou preaching over a non issue they insist on making an issue? There is no dragon in this thread put your sword away. Manners......... Thats rich.




Yeah, very rich.

As if I was the one who derailed a thread about a chipped knife by insisting that it never happened.

 

[RX-79G]

They roll when batonning, they don't ping out half moon chips. Half moon chips come from twisting a knife while in wood while chopping. Just letting the "story" go without comment on our doubts does no one any good. Sticking ones head in the sand doesn't advance anybody's knowledge. It only hurts people considering buying the knife.

And who is calling everyone a liar all the time? Hyperbole.

The section that chipped looks to be less than 3/64" thick. Why wouldn't it break out if the spine was wacked at an angle? This is a pretty thin blade.

 

[marcinek]

Yup. Could be they put out a lemon, could be user error. Given that the 3V Master Hunter has now been out for some time and this is the one instance of damage I consistently see being brought up, I'm going out on a limb and saying it's probably not a huge production issue but, if it was a lemon, rather a singular incident.

I've put a decent amount of use on my 3V Master Hunter and haven't experienced any edge damage. That said, it's a slicer much more than a rough and tough sharpened prybar. So battoning and then torqueing the knife, particularly if it was cross grain battoning, could easily produce damage like that.

Exactly. And this random user from Amazon is claiming that it is a HT problem, and people, including Knife Chop are taking that claim as fact, and considering not buying the knife.

The point many are making, including me, is that, based on seeing that same half moon chip countless times, that a manufacturing error does not appear to be the cause, and that it looks like user error.

The review is dubious, and and ingnring our doubts does a disservice to anyone reading the thread and trying to get info about the knife.

But, if one wants to just assume its a systematic CS manufacturing error, one is free too.

(But its user error...and I am not a big CS fan.)

 

[PURPLEDC]

As if I was the one who derailed a thread about a chipped knife by insisting that it never happened.

Keep swinging for the fences

 

[marcinek]

Such a disappointment. This can't be real 3V or they are using some fancy marketing to burn people. Maybe they just have the very edge as 3V but the rest isn't. Who the hell knows...but I have some cheap rat tail $15 Mora which was stainless steel and not even carbon steel that I used to baton through the same wood and had zero problems.

Such a HUGE disappointment.

And, in fact, the reviewer is claiming that the cause is not some isolated HT error, but in fact part of a deliberate scam by Cold Steel.

That unsubstantiated claim is unacceptable, and should not be allowed to stand, here, unquestioned, if we are having an intelligent discussion about knives.

 

[RX-79G]

And, in fact, the reviewer is claiming that the cause is not some isolated HT error, but in fact part of a deliberate scam by Cold Steel.

That unsubstantiated claim is unacceptable, and should not be allowed to stand, here, unquestioned, if we are having an intelligent discussion about knives.

No one is taking the reviewer's claim as to the cause of the failure at face value. Even Knife Chop believes it is something other than the reviewer's speculation (not claim) that it is not real 3V.

 

[rustyrazor]

FYI, the 3V version of the Master Hunter is thinner with more distal taper than other versions. Where the reviewer's knife chipped the spine looks to be 1/8". With a FFG, that does not put a lot of steel thickness where the chip is.

And that is probably a good thing, since this is a hunting knife, not a survival or bushcraft knife. I'll bet it slices great:

...I bed it slices great up to the 3/8" chip at least, lol. I 100% agree though, this knife wasn't designed for abuse, it was designed as a very capable hunting knife and looking at the taper on it i wouldn't expect it to be used that way for very long without some sort of damage, 3v or not. of all the cold steel knives i've ever owned, each one was pretty capable for the tasks they were designed for and this is most likely a case of "misuse" that led to faiure, rather than a problem with the tool itself.

 

[craytab]

Pictures or it didn't happen.



The fact that a few of you think you "know" each other doesn't mean that everyone else needs to be called liars until you have decided they aren't.

Hey, maybe we're all in the Matrix, and none of this is happening.

What are you talking about? I never called anyone a liar in this thread. Nor do I "think" I know some people around here. I do. I however do not know this amazon reviewer. I can't even ask him a question. Pure speculation. This thread has a familiar ton to it now. I'll step out. Go on and discuss amazon reviews if it pleases you......

 

[philllll]

As if I was the one who derailed a thread about a chipped knife by insisting that it never happened.

It's clear that they're just here to troll you and couldn't care less about the content of this thread. They're even co-ordinating their efforts in another thread in W&C:

The plot thickens...

Way to step it up, everyone. I was totally blindsided by the amazon approach, well done indeed.

My suggestion is report them for trolling and then ignore them. These obvious trolls aren't worth your effort.

 

[marcinek]

No one is taking the reviewer's claim as to the cause of the failure at face value. Even Knife Chop believes it is something other than the reviewer's speculation (not claim) that it is not real 3V.

Then there seems to be no reason to defend the reviewer's claim so strongly, like you have been doing, unless one is just interested in bickering for bickering's sake.

I will not be caught up in that.

I'm out.

 

[shinyedges]

Your post contributes ZERO to the thread.


On topic that crescent chip is indicative of twisting AND perhaps improper HT or temper.

It's clear that they're just here to troll you and couldn't care less about the content of this thread. They're even co-ordinating their efforts in another thread in W&C:



My suggestion is report them for trolling and then ignore them. These obvious trolls aren't worth your effort.

 

[craytab]

It's clear that they're just here to troll you and couldn't care less about the content of this thread. They're even co-ordinating their efforts in another thread in W&C:



My suggestion is report them for trolling and then ignore them. These obvious trolls aren't worth your effort.

So you are in favor of discussing random, unsubstantiated amazon reviews? Then why not discuss them instead of other people?

 

[philllll]

You both have a history of following RX around the forums for the sole purpose of starting arguments, then running back to whine & cheese to laugh about it.

This is the last post I'll make on the matter.

 

[PURPLEDC]

It's clear that they're just here to troll you and couldn't care less about the content of this thread. They're even co-ordinating their efforts in another thread in W&C:



My suggestion is report them for trolling and then ignore them. These obvious trolls aren't worth your effort.

really. Double check who was participating in the discussion in the first place. He didn't show up until after me and Cray posted. So who is trolling who?

 

[shinyedges]

I think he referred to me, too bad all my posts contributed to the topic unlike his.

On topic, anyone can find a broken knife pic of just about any knife and start a thread which is exactly what knifechop did.

really. Double check who was participating in the discussion in the first place. He didn't show up until after me and Cray posted. So who is trolling who?