Cold Steel Secure-Ex nightmare! Sheath issues still not adressed! Beware!

I have a Kobun, a Mini Tac and a big ol' Magnum Tanto IX in 3V. All have the Securex sheath.

I like all three knives just fine, but I hate all three sheaths.

You are correct that their sheaths will dull your edge, and that sucks. But being dulled in one pull from the sheath seems fictional to me.
 
:) I can't doubt that the problem exists . There are just too many such complaints to deny or ignore .

I've not personally been troubled and I'm not sure why . o_O

I own and use quite a few Cold Steel fixed blades with this type sheath , but have never really noticed this phenomenon .

I do always draw carefully, to slide the blade out of the sheath with pressure against the spine rather than the blade .

I think also that the sheaths may vary from model to model . Even within the same model line , some individual sheaths may be better than others ?

But I never actually have tested this . I just use the knives and sharpen as needed . So maybe I'm missing something here . :confused:

If the sheath is really that effective at dulling a blade , even 3V , maybe it would also make a great sharpener ? :rolleyes:
 
I just bought a mini Pendleton about a month ago and took it rabbit hunting. Ill be honest, I thought the reports of dulling where overblown.

I took my knife out probably 20 times while finishing off rabbits and then skinning them and I didn't notice any dulling but I was trying to be easy when pulling it out as I had heard about this issue. I still bought a custom Kydex sheath so I dont have to worry about it.

Now the only issue I have with the knife now is the fact that there is a small gap between the rubber grip and the tang where Water can get in when cleaning it after a successful hunt.

This seems like a really bad design as there is no way to keep it from rusting over time. Im afraid to spray a lubricant in there as this knife is used for food. They should have sealed that grip.
 
EatingSarma said:
I carried 3V Mini Pendleton as EDC for the first time and when I pulled it out to cut a zip tie - it was as dull as a spoon. How did it happen? Because in the morning before I went to work it was razor sharp!

There's the answer:
Even CPM-3V steel is no match for dulling power of Cold Steel Secure-Ex sheath.
Secure-ex sheath will make your blade trully secure, you won't be able to cut yourself, or anyone for that matter even if you try!
Sheath itself is carefully executed in a way that you don't even need to press the blade against it while drawing to get the ultimate dulling effect!
Cold Steel master engineers have made sure to design it in a way that it will dull your blade while you're simply carrying it.

So, my 3V Mini Pendleton Butter is safe even for little children.


Jokes aside, I was lucky to still have my D2 Boker GoBag in my backpack. So I'm still using a knife this one should replace, that is until I get a proper sheath for this one. Because Cold Steel will give you a really crappy sheath and pretend it's all fine.

Cold Steel usually ignores threads about their sheaths and will not adress these issues so I thought that it should be posted here as beware to people.
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Then clearly we need a glass liner blade for infinite edge retention! :D

Kidding aside, you made the right choice getting a new sheath for your 3V knife.
 
Baggins said:
From razor sharp to butter knife in one pull?
Possibly a slight exaggeration there?


This video compared the fresh edge, after 10, after 30 and after 100 pulls out of the sheath - still cut paper at the end.

And that's on SK5 steel..

So while it will dull your knife...in one extraction is unlikely.
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I beg to differ from my experience with SK-5 Recon Tanto. Since one pull is enough to make it no longer razor sharp and 2 pulls are enough to make it no longer cut paper. But this only started to happend after I dropped the sheath with knife in it. Since then, it happens only time.

Video of one sheath being fine does not mean that every single one is.

However, he claimed his knife dulled from carrying, not being pulled out, so I guess the sheath is probably defective and blade bangs against it all the time as he's carrying it.

Secure-ex is such material that can dull your knife instantly, and if there's any defect on it and it comes in contact with your edge, there'll be way more dulling than from just leather or kydex.
 
To summarize - I did not claim it dulled the knife in just one pull.

I did claim it was dull when I pulled it out to use it, despite being careful to press the spine against it and not the blade.

It got dulled during the carry as my pants aren't very lose, I move a lot and you can move the knife a bit while it's in the sheath.

So sheath is defective and as it's not kydex but glass filled nylon - it dulls my knife.
 
DocJD said:
:) I can't doubt that the problem exists . There are just too many such complaints to deny or ignore .

I've not personally been troubled and I'm not sure why . o_O

I own and use quite a few Cold Steel fixed blades with this type sheath , but have never really noticed this phenomenon .

I do always draw carefully, to slide the blade out of the sheath with pressure against the spine rather than the blade .

I think also that the sheaths may vary from model to model . Even within the same model line , some individual sheaths may be better than others ?

But I never actually have tested this . I just use the knives and sharpen as needed . So maybe I'm missing something here . :confused:

If the sheath is really that effective at dulling a blade , even 3V , maybe it would also make a great sharpener ? :rolleyes:
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Came across my mind too. I might even give it a shot. But I have my doubts as I think there'd be lots of polymer shavings getting in the way.
 
Smiling said:
I beg to differ from my experience with SK-5 Recon Tanto. Since one pull is enough to make it no longer razor sharp and 2 pulls are enough to make it no longer cut paper. But this only started to happend after I dropped the sheath with knife in it. Since then, it happens only time.

Video of one sheath being fine does not mean that every single one is.

However, he claimed his knife dulled from carrying, not being pulled out, so I guess the sheath is probably defective and blade bangs against it all the time as he's carrying it.

Secure-ex is such material that can dull your knife instantly, and if there's any defect on it and it comes in contact with your edge, there'll be way more dulling than from just leather or kydex.
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Looks like the drop warped the interior to press against the edge. That’s awful.
 
It might still be the knives. If they are damaging the edge during heat treatment, you may have to sharpen it a few times before it stabalizes.

There has to be more going on than just a glass reinforced polymer sheath, or the sheath would wear very quickly, and no one has mentioned that.

n2s
 
Judas530 said:
I just bought a mini Pendleton about a month ago and took it rabbit hunting. Ill be honest, I thought the reports of dulling where overblown.

I took my knife out probably 20 times while finishing off rabbits and then skinning them and I didn't notice any dulling but I was trying to be easy when pulling it out as I had heard about this issue. I still bought a custom Kydex sheath so I dont have to worry about it.

Now the only issue I have with the knife now is the fact that there is a small gap between the rubber grip and the tang where Water can get in when cleaning it after a successful hunt.

This seems like a really bad design as there is no way to keep it from rusting over time. Im afraid to spray a lubricant in there as this knife is used for food. They should have sealed that grip.
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Could try sealing the gap with some silicone?
 
EatingSarma said:
To summarize - I did not claim it dulled the knife in just one pull.

I did claim it was dull when I pulled it out to use it, despite being careful to press the spine against it and not the blade.
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Didn't say you did. But you did claim that just walking around with the knife in the sheath was dulling the knife.

So you could sharpen it, put it in the sheath, then have it dull the next time you pull the knife... aka "one pull dull" I mentioned.
 
Velitrius said:
Didn't say you did. But you did claim that just walking around with the knife in the sheath was dulling the knife.

So you could sharpen it, put it in the sheath, then have it dull the next time you pull the knife... aka "one pull dull" I mentioned.
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Oh, I see your point.

Sadly, that's how it was.
I really wish it was different and this here ended up being a good review tho. From all I see there might be more factors to all this.
 
not2sharp said:
It might still be the knives. If they are damaging the edge during heat treatment, you may have to sharpen it a few times before it stabalizes.
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This is a possibility.
Judas530 said:
Now the only issue I have with the knife now is the fact that there is a small gap between the rubber grip and the tang where Water can get in when cleaning it after a successful hunt.
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This is not relevat to my issue, but it does make me question their QC of newer models.


Now, I have 3V Warcraft Tanto and it's just a beast in every way, and I love it.
But I did notice that my Warcraft Tanto came in older box with tiger on it.
My Mini Pendleton was in much newer box indicating it's newer date of production.


So, to summarize, I think there is more factors here:
1. Poor sheath material choice
2. Poor execution/faulty sheath
3. Poorly heat treated steel or it was ground in a way it effected the heat treat in negative way

I cannot know if this knife is heat treated well since I didn't use it yet.
It is possible that steel was "burnt" or overheated during sharpening so it had effect on heat treat so I need to "sharpen out" the edge of it.

But I do know that secure-ex has glass inside of it. And I also know there's no click when I put the knife in the sheath. It won't fall out unless you turn it upside down and shake, but it has some movement in the sheath.

And last, I cannot be 100% sure what it is, I can only hope the new sheath will solve the problem.
But I what I do know for sure is that QC should not let a product like this to go out of their factory.
 
At some point I'd like to get a custom sheath made for my Magnum Tanto. It's not a big deal at the moment, because I don't carry it.

The Mini Tac Bowie was being used as a mushroom knife, so razor sharpness really wasn't necessary and it wasn't carried a whole lot.

These sheaths is part of the reason I don't own more of their stuff. Bummer really.
 
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