Cold Steel Statement

Mr. Thompson exercised his right to free speech, and in response, so are many others with different opinions.

The knife community is very small and it is never good to burn bridges.
 
NIB,

Thank you for making me eat my own foot. I realize now what I posted. Don't ask what I was thinking. Thanks for setting me straight. Although I still stand by CS even if LT is an ass, and needs lessons in Inter Personal Communication.

As stated before all that is going to happen with the current controversy is that current supporters of CS will close ranks and some of the potential owners will shy away from CS. Besides as any politian will probably tell you there is no such thing as bad press.
 
I think I'll design a knife with some traits of the kabar, the mk2 navy issue, an m1 bayonet, etc and call it "the VNUSMCUSNWW2".

"Designed for infantry troops, the knife has the best features of all those before it, forged from actual combat experiences in three wars of fighting."

That nowhere says it is a military knife or used by the military, or even sanctioned by the military.

But mall ninjas will buy it. Thats the idea behind advertising, to entice the ones who don't know better to buy something they think is something else.

A fool and his money, as the saying goes.

Caveat emptor, or spend your money on something thats not what you think it is.

Brownie
 
Sorry Chambers,

But LT fired the first shot over the bow and were all firing back. He deserves 0 respect from me. He berates other knife makers for the same stuff he's doing. He insults the BDU wearing boots and all crowd at Blade show as "wannabes" when in fact they are the real service man who've been there done that. He steals the name "American Tomahawk Company" for his crappy made in Taiwan stuff.

Heck he puts down cord wrapped knives but then what is this!

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That would be a true flight thrower, and I don't remember reading about it being the preferred choice of SEALs.
 
Did I say anywhere that it was a SEAL issue???
No No no nowhere.

LT takes shots at cord wrapped knives yet he sells a cord wrapped knife.
 
I don't really care for Cold Steel in general, but I do agree with Lynn Thompson about the knife companies that say their products are being issued to Special Forces/DeltaForce/SEALS or any other groups, when in fact they are not. A good example is SOG Knives and Emerson Knives. Sog ads in catalogs say that the SEAL 2000 is issued to the Navy SEALS. It is not. Emerson Knives say that many GOV agencies use their knives???? What does that supposed to mean? That one person bought a Specwar and now the "Agency" uses it? I belive that many of these companies use quite a bit of hype in their marketing. Just like Cold Steel.;)
 
Chill out!

I get the Cold Steel catalog- I read the (two) articles in question. No where does Cold Steel NAME Strider Knives as on of those shady crappy dealer.

IMHO- That areticle was referring to the charletans hawking "Seal" knives of 420 stainless for $200 to the uninitiated/unsuspecting. There are TONS of manufacturers who trade on those images (Special Forces, Seals, Police, Etc.) to boost interest in thier products. There is no need to link the article with a know quality manufacturer like Strider.

I'm a knife fan. Do I KNOW all the manufacturers who ACTUALLY make special forces knives? No. (well, Chris Reeve) But I can tell you it only takes one Navy SEAL to buy a knife for that manufacturer to want to say "As used by Navy SEALS."

The article was IMO chastising those jerks who make crap knives and con people (us) into thinking that they're something they're not. It wasn't poking at legitimate manufacturers who sell top quality product.
 
I've discovered where the Cold Steel name came from..... It stems from the fact that Thompson has yet to figure out a way to decently heat treat his sh!t blades to hold an edge. Until he does he needs to shut his little mealy mouth and go about his own business in the minor league of knife manufacturing.

His pathetic cry for attention is kinda like McDonald's advertising about how finer steak houses have it all wrong.
 
The line of thinking of a couple of posts above are right on. Many knife companies sll knives by saying they are "in use" by (name your favorite secret organization here). Many of the customers also use the line to say why they own nothing but the best and blah blah blah.

Using that line of thinking, then the Victorinox and Wenger SAKs, most models of Buck, some Schrade and so on are "In use" by military and secret agent types.

When Desert Storm was gearing up way back when, the knife store I worked at (was just a customer at the time) sold tons of knives to Marines that were getting ready to ship out...Cold Steel, SAKs, SOG and even some of the United and Explorer junk...so hey, even those are "In use" by members of the military.
 
Originally posted by Big Bad Wolf
I've discovered where the Cold Steel name came from..... It stems from the fact that Thompson has yet to figure out a way to decently heat treat his sh!t blades to hold an edge.
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Dude. Cold Steel's AUS8 is/was considered by MOST in the industry to be the FINEST available- still is. And while many believe Carbon V has changed its composition over the years, most reviewers have found it to be a great non-stainless steel. They are known for having made great steel and solid, well-made knives.


Its fine if you don't like thier knives, ads, media tactics, president... but I gotta call someone who sweeps reality under the rug like so many inconvenient crumbs...

Don't go criticizing Thompson for what you see as false claims or badmouthing legit people, then spew out all this venom.

I'm just sayin'-
 
Ultrasteele, I speak from my own experience I have an old Voyager that I found in my truck console that cannot hold an edge, does not matter who tries to sharpen it. At best it will get to a mediocre sharpness and as soon as you cut anything with it *poof* it's dull again. I had 2 Voyagers and 1 fixed blade (I do not remember the model) about 5 years ago and all of them had this problem. I do not think it's AUS-8 as the one remaining Cold Steel knife I own since it does not have any markings other than the rust it's magically gotten all over it from sitting in my dry truck console for the last few years.

You say his AUS-8 is regarded by MOST as the finest available? Is that compared to the new Blackwood/Outdoor Edge Hybrid Hunter or Kershaw's Seagal Folder? Somehow I doubt it since I own both and they are light years past Cold Sh!t's offerings. I'd imagine that the comparison would be to the other sh!t knives that come out of Taiwan with AUS-8. :barf:
 
I've have several old Cold Steel Voyagers and I can get all of them sharp, the XL Clip Point I can get it sharper than any knife I own. I have a Recon Scout in Carbon V great camping knife. I think Cold Steel makes some great products,for the money. That being said I get really annoyed by all the hype garbadge. I think you should let your products speak for themselves.

Running down another company is unprofessional and turns a lot of buyers away. Companies like Spyderco, Benchmade, and Camillus to name just a few tend to let their knives do the talking, CS should just follow suite.

On a side note: I remember some time back in the catalog they (Cold Steel) wanted to challenge the Busse Battle Mistres. Then you never heard anything afterward. Just kinda curious how that turned out???????
 
Mike Turber did a comparison between a Trailmaster and a Busse Basic 9 I believe, you can find the interesting results on a search.;)
 
This whole thing makes me sick. After receiving and reading those articles, several things stuck out on the pages that followed.

Such as "Best selling Non-Issue combat knife of the Iraqi War" That sounds like they are using the military angle to sell there knives
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Any notice the product on the bottom of page 48???

"The Tri-Angle SHARPMAKER" This thing is identical to the Spyderco Sharpmaker except for the plastic cover with Spyderco on it. Whats your take on this?? :barf:
 
It's rather disgusting that Lynn Thompson is actively putting down other knife manufacturers.
For those of you CS fans, do you hear any other companies that bad mouth others? If you don't, then shut up about us bashing Lynn Thompson about what he said about "charlatans". And no, I don't own a Strider, in fact I do have an SRK.
I'm actually kind of intrigued about the Kerambit article, and I do agree with his legit skepticism (minus the bashing) on the Kerambit, especially the extended grip.
As for CS's knives, my SRK is an OK piece. Stock is too thick, grind doesn't thin enough. Handle is ok, but my Camillus CQB-1 is both more comfortable and cuts a lot better than the SRK.
And they started to replace their AUS-8 with those sub-zero 420 steel thing.
And stop saying that we get our "panties in a wad". I wear boxer-briefs!
 
Cold Steel makes some good knives, some ok knives and some not so ok knives. For the most part I have no problem with their knives. Their attitude is another thing all together. I wonder if they had any idea what the military background was of the people wearing the fatiques at Blade. Somehow this just comes off as sanctimonious, hollier than thou claptrap.
 
PS, I think what CS is doing with the 40% armed forces discount is great. This is a great way to support the troops - giving them access to decent quality tools at a good price.
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RH, do you have a web link to any further information about this? If it's true I have to at least give them credit for putting their money where their mouth is, in this instance at least. I just looked over their website and couldn't find any info, so I'm curious where you heard about this.
 
I thought I remembered reading a thread where someone pointed out that the prices after Cold Steel's military discount were about even with the best internet prices.

Back to the kerambit bashing, IMO the kerambit (in either forward grip pinky in hole or reverse grip index finger in hole OR even in either grip with NO fingers in the hole) is going to be WAY more difficult to remove from someone's grip than that egg-handled Desperado - all things being equal. The article makes it sound like the preferred grip of kerambit usage is the long extended position and that all kerambits are single edged. Yeah right :rolleyes: Yeah, the kerambit also sucks because, when you hold the blade and try to hit someone with the ring, you end up cutting your hand.

If the Desperado is "all that", how come I haven't seen any similar handle designs (before or after). Shoot, why not mount a blade into a tennis ball - ooh nice and comfy. One would think that, if the Desperado's handle design Was "all that", you would see more ovoid/oval shaped handles on kitchen/cooking cutlery (who uses knives more than cooks?).

I also happen to think that a lot of CS knives are cheap and fugly. No big deal, just one man's opinion. Got rid of an SRK (didn't like the balance/thickness/weight combo). Got rid of a SafeKeeper II (bent the tip on a coconut, lousy steel).

All that being said, I AM keeping my Peace Keeper II in carbon V. And I'm pretty sure that it will Not be my last CS purchase.

LT should either clarify his comments to alleviate any misunderstandings or misperceptions OR keep his big mouth shut and concentrate on innovating or improving his knives...
 
This swipe at Strider Knives and those associated with Strider floors me. Thompson is in for a very rough time at NY knife show!
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Oh? Who's going to give him a very rough time at NY knife show? You?

Or do think Strider knives, who you seem to be trying to speak for, are so insecure that they feel threatened by Cold Steel's remarks, that do not apply to them in any way?

Some in this thread are trying to make it a fact that Cold Steel was talking about Strider knives and nobody else, when they could not possibly have a clue if that is the case or not.
If Cold Steels comments do not apply to a certain company, then obviously Cold Steel was not referring to a certain company.
 
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