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In another post, Mick Strider implied that he believes Mr. Thompson was speaking of his company. That's good enough for me. In my book, anyone who wears military clothing to sell equipment but is not active milatary is trying to pull a fast one. Anyone here at Blade and see Strider people in gear?

It's great that the Cold Steel haters are doing just what Mr. Thompson wants, generating buzz which will affect sales. Despite what the rarified knife knuts think, most articles I've read on the knives that fighting men buy and use include Cold Steel in the top 3. That's because it's a fair product at a fair price.
 
Actually I think the food vendors are going to be giving him a rough time in NY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You no come back here fat man, last time you eat whole store!

Seriously as was stated above the knife community is very small stories travel fast and bashing makers and the Kerambit users/makers/designers hurt LT's business

He also insults Ernie Emerson and the other guys who were there at Blade West.

Some of you are saying if you don't like Cold Steel don't buy the knives go buy a Strider Knife well I have done just that but I never once bashed or came on the forum and dragged Cold Steels knives down.

Why is Lynn Thompson justified in doing so. Maybe some people like them BDU's and them cord wrapped handles.

I agree cheap chinese knock offs should be made fun of but I do believe LT is taking a shot at THE TOP DOGS thats Strider Knives right now.

Face it this whole thing is stupid.
 
I like Cold Steel knives.I just received a Culloden neck knife and plan on getting an ODA next.;)
 
Ultrasteele, I speak from my own experience I have an old Voyager that I found in my truck console that cannot hold an edge,
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As my sainted father used to say, "A sample of one doth make fools of us all."


IMO the kerambit (in either forward grip pinky in hole or reverse grip index finger in hole OR even in either grip with NO fingers in the hole) is going to be WAY more difficult to remove from someone's grip than that egg-handled Desperado
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Your opinion really doesn't matter. What matters is practical experience. Grab a partner, get out on the floor, and give it a try. Apparently, Mr. Thompson has.


Mick Strider implied that he believes
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An implication of a belief?

We could start a rumor about that!

Mr. Thompson mentions nobody by name. He rails on people who use deceptive marketing to sell cheap, shoddy knives. If you think that Strider knives are cheap and shoddy and that Strider uses deceptive marketing practices, then you might conclude that he is referring to Strider.

Mr. Thompson does not refer to all people who wear BDU clothing nor does he refer to all cord-wrapped knives. The exact quote is, "dressed in pseudo-military costume selling two-tone, spray-painted battle blades with 'de rigeur' para cord wrapped handles."

Were Mike Strider or his associates dressed in pseudo-military costume? Are their blades spray-painted?
 
Wow!
Thanks for the support you guys....

The problem isn’t that any company was named. That isn’t a deal at all.

The problem is the blatant negative bullshit. If its not a CS product it SUCKS. If your not a CS customer you’re a lame ass wanna-be…

This is not something that was said…this was put into print!

Its not bashing a company…but a group, both manufacturing and customer based.

Okay so no more people allowed at shows in para-military clothing….those guys bug me….
Oh and no Mexicans either….everyone knows they cant be trusted with a knife.
For sure no fags…lesbos are of course fine.

You know who I really don’t want are those people with tattoos and piercings….those guys really bother me….what a bunch of charlatans……

And oh the Karambit….those are dumb…if you like those your lame....
Oh yes im a grand master you know, a guro-gimungus in both Inosanto and Lameco edged weapon heritages……
But karambits are just really really dumb…..and your really really dumb if you like them…..



Its just blatantly wrong and there needs to be an open apology to every single attendee of Blade 2003.

I of course don’t require any apology. Im a total ass. I just make sure its always to a person and not a group….its a lot easier for a group to kick my ass!

Hope your all well over here at BF
Talk to you soon

m
 
Chuck, I get from that article a meaning a lot different from the one that you do. You think he was taking a shot at cheap knives and pseudo-warriors. I think the article tried to paint all companies who's employees wore BDUs and had camouflaged blades with the same brush. If not, the writer of the article should have qualified his statements. Matbe he just figured people should be smart enough to figure out what is meant by the comments he made. One should never make assumptions like that. From the replies to this thread I can see that many people are having trouble discerning the meaning of that article. You should be very clear in what you put to print. It is very ease to misunderstand something that is not clearly stated.
 
I think the article tried to paint all companies who's employees wore BDUs and had camouflaged blades with the same brush.
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You're right. Mr. Thompson used an unfortunately-broad brush and left considerable room for interpretation. A clarification on his part would be helpful. Also helpful would be for others to refrain from jumping immediately to the worst possible interpretation.
 
"Your opinion really doesn't matter. What matters is practical experience. Grab a partner, get out on the floor, and give it a try. Apparently, Mr. Thompson has."

Actually, my comment was directed towards the kerambit vs desperado discussion In This Thread - not towards anything that Mr Thompson claimed or stated (AFAIK, he hasn't made any comparisons).

Wrto my "opinion", well, I haven't been shot yet, but I AM of the OPINION that it hurts. Do I still need "practical experience"? Some "truths" (or at least, reasonable beliefs) CAN be extrapolated from similar or analagous experiences.

BTW, every now and then, I DO "get out on the floor and give it a try."
 
I haven't been shot yet, but I AM of the OPINION that it hurts. Do I still need "practical experience"?
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That's a bit of an extreme case, but even in this case I would consider the experience of someone who has actually been shot as more authoratative than someone who has simply sat around and thought about it.
 
So who here was at Blade and saw manufacturer's reps in gear? Was Mr. Thompson correct or is it a blatant lie.
 
Yes, it was an extreme example. But let me suggest that, in this case, firearms training, will to survive lectures, viewing of videos and even the news, personal observation of gun shot wounds (from .22 to shotgun) to victims, personal observation of firearm projectile damage to inanimate objects (including vests), discussions with numerous people who have been shot (poking gang bangers in their wounds and asking if it hurts :D), etal. would be adequate enough to form a reasonably credible belief.

If I think about it too much, I might quit my job... :p
 
I haven't recieved the Latest Cold Steel catalog yet, but I find it hard to believe that they had the "Most used knives in the Gulf War". I was in the Gulf War. I did not see one Cold Steel knife anywhere. I wonder how and where he got this info from?:confused:
 
Originally posted by RL
Thank GOD that HE doesn't put out any videos of knives doing unbelievable things (nor any training videos)! BTW, how did his "Special Forces" shovel get the name "Special Forces" shovel??? Is it used by the special forces???
RL
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Once upon a time (for the younger readers) there was something called the USSR. They had their own equivalent of our Special Forces called Spetznaz. They had similar shovels with sharpened edges which they (in theory) sometimes used in hand to hand fighting. Actually the variety (not sold by Cold Steel) with a mattock pick on the end is much more practical for that purpose.
 
My first thought when I started to read that article was Lynn Thompson ever in the United States Armed forces? If so what capacity?

I am pretty sure if he was we would all have heard about it several times, but I could be wrong.

After that I lost interest rapidly, and patted myselfon the back for not buying any CS products since 1986.


HoG
 
Originally posted by Gollnick
You're right. Mr. Thompson used an unfortunately-broad brush and left considerable room for interpretation. A clarification on his part would be helpful. Also helpful would be for others to refrain from jumping immediately to the worst possible interpretation.
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Chuck, this is exactly the problem with Lynn's article. He painted his story with a wide brush, and so included the Strider guys and the Extrema Ration guys and Steve Tarani and many many others in it. Yes, a clarification would be helpful. But an apology would also not only be helpful, but looks to be the right thing to do here, if Mr. Thompson did not mean to include Strider et al. in his story. It is kind-of like folks who may complain about Canadians and the Iraq invasion, and then some will pipe up and say that their brother is serving in an American unit as an exchange officer, and then the original person says "well, I didn't mean to complaina bout you then". We'd expect the original guy to apologize too. So hopefully Lynn Thompson decides to clarify what he meant and apolologizes to those whom he wrongly included in his criticisms. But if Lynn meant to say that all cargo pant wearers and all karambit owners and all tiger stripe knife owners and all cord wrapped knife loving folks are loosers, then screw him.
 
I don't get much time here, so I don't post often. The "LT/coldsteel marketing strategy conversation has been on and off on these forums since before I started lurkin'. I've probably not read 99% of them. I remember first getting the catalogs and buying a couple of Cold Steel's seconds....cheap, you know, but maybe decent utility. Still, I am a bit disturbed that I actually bought into the hype by spending a hundred bucks or so. The catalogs got weirder and basically turned me off. Once I got here and really started learning about knives{my god! what a treasure of information this place is}, I discovered the myriad alternatives to coldsteelknives.

ColoradoDave....if your listening....I never connected LT to the slaughter south of the border...weren't there goats involved as well? 'bout all you need to know...

yabbos1...I was wondering if the poem was yours?

blah...blah...blah....
 
But if Lynn meant to say that all cargo pant wearers and all karambit owners and all tiger stripe knife owners and all cord wrapped knife loving folks are loosers, then screw him.
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That's not quite what he said. Again, it would be helpful for others to refrain from jumping immediately to the worst possible interpretation.



But if Lynn meant to say that all cargo pant wearers ... are loosers, then screw him.
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It would not surprise me if I wore cargo pants at Bladeshow. I have several pairs (though none that I would characterize as BDUs or even really "military") and like them very much. Cargo pants are perfect for knife shows. You can't have enough pockets at a knife show.

You see? Mr. Thompson's article does NOT mention cargo pants. And yet somehow now you are accusing him of saying that anyone who wears cargo pants is a looser. Where did that come from?

I'll tell you where it came from: you made it up. That's where it came from.

So, while you accuse Mr. Thompson of making broad accusations, look what you are, yourself, now doing.

Guess what, Mr. Crayola? You now owe Mr. Thompson an apology.
 
Originally posted by TheBadGuy

Any notice the product on the bottom of page 48???

"The Tri-Angle SHARPMAKER" This thing is identical to the Spyderco Sharpmaker except for the plastic cover with Spyderco on it. Whats your take on this?? :barf:
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One take might be... that Cold Steel sells the Spyderco Sharpmaker? Because its a great product AND they don't have anything to compete with it?

Originally posted by Mick Strider
Wow!
The problem is the blatant negative bullshit. If its not a CS product it SUCKS. If your not a CS customer you’re a lame ass wanna-be…
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I just realised that I'd rather that people didn't denigrate other manufacturers to get my dollar. I do like CS, and have written in this forum many times of that. And I was never comfortable with some of those attitudes they presented.

Thank you, Mick Strider. After re-reading this thread, I also realised that most reputable companies, while confident in and proud of thier products, simply don't need to insult those who don't buy them or those who make competing products.

And while a part of me admires the CS 'tude in doing things like this, ultimately what gets me to buy a knife is my informed sense of VALUE in the product.

So yeah. I think Mr. Thompson et al owes the knife community in general, and the folks at the Blade show in particular, an apology.

Cheers all.
 
One take might be... that Cold Steel sells the Spyderco Sharpmaker? Because its a great product AND they don't have anything to compete with it?
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They may call it the Sharpmaker, but its not from Spyderco. I guess Sal doesn't have a patent on the exact sharpening system or name?
 
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