Cold Steel tests the Sebenza against their Cold Steel Code 4

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Here are my thoughts:

Firstly this is a classic case of trial without jury. This test is only valid if Chris Reeve or someone from their company is part of the test and can sign-off on the knife first. Having the maker and designer of a competitive knife being the jury of another person's design is not an impartial test.

Secondly, I would say for starters the impact test should come after the weight-hang test, or the weight hang test is invalid. Any person can see the second weight hang test will be compromised by spine whacking the heck out of the knife first.

Thirdly, some words about being a positive member of a community: Having a offshore knifemaker like Cold Steel pit itself against another respected knifemaker's product, in a test contrived to disparage the hardworking USA knifemaker is just poor taste, regardless of the subject of the attack. No amount of back-tracking, apologizing , or justifications, or stupid "we didn't want to do this, but the fans made us" type idiotspeak in the video can make up for the fact that it was done. All of the people involved in these sorts of one-sided videos, if directly representing their own designs or employed by a specific maker, are 1st rate douche-bags. I don't really care if it's Spyderco, or Benchmade, or anyone else under attack. The competing maker should be invited to the test session out of respect. You would not see Chris Reeve doing this sort of test of some Andrew Demko design, because he isn't a douche.

Coldsteel has lost any future business I might have sent their way, but I tend not to gravitate towards junk made in sweatshops anyways.
 
Ankerson said:
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You are taking things much too seriously.
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He really is.

I don't think anyone here is saying the Sebenza is junk or attacking the knife, it's a fine knife for sure. I think everyone is just a bit surprised and disappointed with the outcome to test.
 
Another year,..another troll post/ troll vid

Nothing new under the sun.
 
I'm a complete knife noob. But I don't think people are buying sebenzas versus cold steel because of lock strength.

Oh and here's a video of a cold steel being broken. http://youtu.be/PCTOiymTJSo

I just can't take those seriously when they're done by cold steel.
 
I didn't buy any of my Sebenzas based on lock strength, but on refinement and finish. Use your knife properly and it won't fail you no matter who makes it! (Barring a defect of course)
Silly test and a waste of money IMO, but to each their own.
 
Just another example of why I always carry a fixed blade alongside my folder(s). I have not and would never subject my folders to extreme use/abuse when my Strider DB begs to run roughshod over such tasks.
While I appreciate and use my Sebenzas I've never thought of them as 'hard use'. To be honest, my 21 sees little to no action these days while my PJ 25 rides side saddle to my FB knives.
 
Ankerson said:
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You are taking things much too seriously.
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Actually I don't think I am. I'm not the one who set up the test and uploaded it to my YouTube channel. That's quite a bit of effort on Cold Steel's part to smack CRK. They are clearly serious enough to have gone through those paces.

All it took me was a few minutes to write a comment on what a douche move it is on their part. Easy!
 
bhyde said:
Another year,..another troll post/ troll vid

Nothing new under the sun.
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I'm sorry if the post came across as "Trollish", it really wasn't meant to be.

I own close to a dozen CRK's and love every since one of them. Did this video make me think twice about using them in the future? Of course not.

Just thought some people would get amused as much as I did when I first watched the video.
 
Acadian said:
I'm sorry if the post came across as "Trollish", it really wasn't meant to be.

I own close to a dozen CRK's and love every since one of them. Did this video make me think twice about using them in the future? Of course not.

Just thought some people would get amused as much as I did when I first watched the video.
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You were not whom I was referencing...Not even in the slightest..It never occurred to me that my post could be taken out of context..My apologies

To be honest, I have been here for a very long time and have seen many of the vids such as this one. Really, what they boil down to is someone that is looking for attention. in this case,..It's Cold Steel
If I was going to relate this to something, it would be Chevrolet making a video about the bumper of a Ferrari or a Lamborghini not withstanding the same impacts in a crash that theirs would...Despite both, or all three having different market niche clients..they would like to point this out..even if it doesn't make sense to anyone who can see past the bullsh!t.

Here is the crux of it...If you are needing fixed blade strength..then get a fixed blade. If you believe this Cold Steel is as good as a fixed blade..don't be too upset when some internet warrior hands it back in pieces with a video attached. ;)

Popshots over the bow
 
Jethro: Hey, Chris, check out my new knife!!! It's a Cold Steel Code 4!

Chris: Nice, Jethro. I carry a CRK Sebenza myself.

Jethro: Yes, I know, but why?

Chris: It's just a personal choice.

Jethro: That's fine. Just know that my new Code 4 sports a badass Tri-ad lock.

Chris: Cool. Mine has a locking method too; it's known as a “framelock”. See here how this works?

Jethro: Yeah, but mine is better, way better.

Chris: What do you mean?

Jethro: My Tri-ad lock is nearly indestructable. In any case, it is more indestructable than your locking method, which will fail long before the lock on my knife will fail.

Chris: Well, I didn't buy this knife because it had a tougher locking method than a Cold Steel Code 4. I bought it because it is a nice knife, a very good knife in fact, and I like it.

Jethro: Well if you can sleep well at night knowing you that you have a knife with an inferior locking method…

Chris: What??? I buy knives I like, and which I use to cut, not because I can pound on the spine like an out-of-control monkey. I am happy with my knife as you should be with yours.

Jethro: Ok, well, if you ever need a real knife—a man's knife—you know where to find me.

Chris: Ooooooooookay then! ***heavy sigh***

And so it goes...:rolleyes:
 
kidcongo said:
Actually I don't think I am. I'm not the one who set up the test and uploaded it to my YouTube channel. That's quite a bit of effort on Cold Steel's part to smack CRK. They are clearly serious enough to have gone through those paces.

All it took me was a few minutes to write a comment on what a douche move it is on their part. Easy!
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So, when the ad copy for the Sebenza 21 states:
"The folding knife that has become the yardstick against which others are compared, the Sebenza has earned a worldwide reputation for rock solid performance and a “bank vault” feel."
Are you saying that they are not inviting "others to compare"? Are such comparisons unfair? Doesn't saying "bank vault feel" imply a very solid lock-up?

If you want to take this test as a personal affront, go ahead, but calling Andrew Demko a "1st rate douche bag" is not only hyperbole, but out of line. I know Andrew, and he is the furthest thing from a 1st rate douche bag.
 
DngrRuss1 said:
So, when the ad copy for the Sebenza 21 states:
"The folding knife that has become the yardstick against which others are compared, the Sebenza has earned a worldwide reputation for rock solid performance and a “bank vault” feel."
Are you saying that they are not inviting "others to compare"? Are such comparisons unfair? Doesn't saying "bank vault feel" imply a very solid lock-up?

If you want to take this test as a personal affront, go ahead, but calling Andrew Demko a "1st rate douche bag" is not only hyperbole, but out of line. I know Andrew, and he is the furthest thing from a 1st rate douche bag.
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You are right. He's a second-rate douche bag.
 
There's something strange about it, because watch what happens when BladeHQ tests cheap Frame locks. They max out at 380 pounds! Even the Buck 110 does and a Chinese liner lock Spyderco. Same for a Chinese Kershaw. And a Sebenza won't hold 45 pounds?
[video=youtube;4KmHfbG7z7g]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KmHfbG7z7g[/video]
 
jill jackson said:
There's something strange about it, because watch what happens when BladeHQ tests cheap Frame locks. They max out at 380 pounds! Even the Buck 110 does and a Chinese liner lock Spyderco. Same for a Chinese Kershaw. And a Sebenza won't hold 45 pounds?
[video=youtube;4KmHfbG7z7g]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KmHfbG7z7g[/video]
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Interesting.......
 
I don't believe it. My friend has a 60 dollar Chinese clone of a 25 and you can't even make that lock fail. I've seen him spine whack it so hard against metal and nothing. I'm not going to abuse my Sebenzas, but come on lock gives at 45 pounds on two different Sebenzas? While a 30 dollar Chinese Kershaw and Spyderco hold 380. And a 30 dollar Buck 110. If a Sebenza gives at 45 pounds then a strong man should be able to defeat the lock by hand and it can't be done.
 
jill jackson said:
I don't believe it. My friend has a 60 dollar Chinese clone of a 25 and you can't even make that lock fail. I've seen him spine whack it so hard against metal and nothing. I'm not going to abuse my Sebenzas, but come on lock gives at 45 pounds on two different Sebenzas? While a 30 dollar Chinese Kershaw and Spyderco hold 380. And a 30 dollar Buck 110.
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Very valid point. I'm going to have to agree.

I wish I had 400$ Laying around. I would do some tests of my own.


I would also be willing to do some tests if someone wanted to send me a Seb. I would video it and see what it can really do.
 
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