Cold Steel tests the Sebenza against their Cold Steel Code 4

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I'd have to see some party like BladeHQ test it, or someone from the forum I just refuse to believe my Sebenza can't hold 45 pounds.
 
The next time someone posts a pic of their 85-90% lock up on a seb and then asks "is this okay?" "is this too late?" Refer back to video. Round and round we go
I no longer dig holes in the earth or need to open man hole covers with a knife (some do) nor do I feel like I am a blind consumer.
I'll stick with my sebs.

I will say that I am a bit surprised and butt hurt.
Cold steel will no longer get any of my business (haha)
 
Someone else really needs to test a Sebenza, because if a 30 dollar Chinese Spyderco can hold 380....
 
bhyde said:
You were not whom I was referencing...Not even in the slightest..It never occurred to me that my post could be taken out of context..My apologies

To be honest, I have been here for a very long time and have seen many of the vids such as this one. Really, what they boil down to is someone that is looking for attention. in this case,..It's Cold Steel
If I was going to relate this to something, it would be Chevrolet making a video about the bumper of a Ferrari or a Lamborghini not withstanding the same impacts in a crash that theirs would...Despite both, or all three having different market niche clients..they would like to point this out..even if it doesn't make sense to anyone who can see past the bullsh!t.

Here is the crux of it...If you are needing fixed blade strength..then get a fixed blade. If you believe this Cold Steel is as good as a fixed blade..don't be too upset when some internet warrior hands it back in pieces with a video attached. ;)

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All good my friend

The way I see it - good knives sell themselves.

There are no need for videos glorificating their 'advertised" superiority over other knives.
 
My dad can curl 150 pounds on a straight bar and he can't make a Sebenza fold with one hand on the handle and the other on the blade. Wearing gloves of course. So I'm not going to hang weights on it, or spine whack it but until someone else makes a Sebenza fail with 45 pounds hung on the blade, I'm just going to not believe Cold Steel.
 
jill jackson said:
There's something strange about it, because watch what happens when BladeHQ tests cheap Frame locks. They max out at 380 pounds! Even the Buck 110 does and a Chinese liner lock Spyderco. Same for a Chinese Kershaw. And a Sebenza won't hold 45 pounds?
[video=youtube;4KmHfbG7z7g]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KmHfbG7z7g...video]
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They're hanging the weight maybe an inch from the pivot. A lot different then nearly 4" from the pivot. 180lbs at 1 inch is only 45lbs at 4".
 
Ernie1980 said:
I didn't buy any of my Sebenzas based on lock strength, but on refinement and finish. Use your knife properly and it won't fail you no matter who makes it! (Barring a defect of course)
Silly test and a waste of money IMO, but to each their own.
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My thought exactly.
 
Here's a hard test in Russian and I didn't watch it, but from the comments (in English) the Umnumzaan was amazing. I'd think the Sebenza's lock would be as strong.

[video=youtube;iI5k2J73LAs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iI5k2J73LAs[/video]
 
I am surprised it failed, but not at 45, it could have been less, 30-35, at 45 it just failed fast, how about starting from 10? I see everyone talking 45 but the knife failed at 45 in the first try, so it could be less, I love my CRK, isn't the Zaan supposed to be the "tactical built tough".?
 
jill jackson said:
I'd have to see some party like BladeHQ test it, or someone from the forum I just refuse to believe my Sebenza can't hold 45 pounds.
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That's what I said I would test one if I had expendable funds. Or if someone wants to send me one.

I also believe they it can handle more.
 
jill jackson said:
Here's a hard test in Russian and I didn't watch it, but from the comments (in English) the Umnumzaan was amazing. I'd think the Sebenza's lock would be as strong.

[video=youtube;iI5k2J73LAs]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iI5k2J73LAs[/video]
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You need to watch it!! It's very impressive. I've seen it before.
 
Maybe Tosh.0 should test a Sebenza. I recall when they bought a Cold Steel sword because of the goofy "Proof" marketing videos. The sword broke and damn near killed his cameraman when they were slicing things and doing the same thing as Cold Steel did in the "proof" video.


This "test" is also stupid and worthless. Almost as stupid and worthless as Cold Steel's lawsuit against CRKT for "false claims".


Why anyone would ever take the word of such a douchebag company, I will never know.
 
I feel like this video should be a wake up call to everyone that desires an "early lock up". For the longest time, I never understood why someone would want 10-15% lock up. At one point while selling a few Sebenzas, that was the only question I was getting. I think the Sebenza failed because the lock never had a chance to settle in. But in all honestly, it was right out of the box and tested quite fairly and should have passed. Disappointed..yes. But I'll keep buying Sebenzas just as long as I don't apply more than 400 lb of force to it while in use.
 
DngrRuss1 said:
So, when the ad copy for the Sebenza 21 states:
"The folding knife that has become the yardstick against which others are compared, the Sebenza has earned a worldwide reputation for rock solid performance and a “bank vault” feel."
Are you saying that they are not inviting "others to compare"? Are such comparisons unfair? Doesn't saying "bank vault feel" imply a very solid lock-up?

If you want to take this test as a personal affront, go ahead, but calling Andrew Demko a "1st rate douche bag" is not only hyperbole, but out of line. I know Andrew, and he is the furthest thing from a 1st rate douche bag.
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It sure is an invitation for comparison. I'd like to see Cold Steel compare all the important aspects of a folder, not just a relatively pointless spine whack test they know they'll win because they built them to withstand that type of force. Unfortunately, we probably won't ever see legitimate use tests from CS because their product is likely inferior to the competitor knives they've spine whacked.

I really think these tests are cheesy and a sad attempt to gain a fan base that doesn't know any better. It's been said numerous times already and I'll repeat it, virtually nobody will ever put that kind of force on a folding knife in real world use. The triad lock that can withstand spine whacks is the only thing CS has going for them and they've been trying to make their products "seem" superior to the competition because of it.
 
If CRK were doing these same tests, successfully, and indeed showing their lock was rock solid and the standard against which all others were compared I dare say many of you would praise CRK for standing behind their claims...

I see a double standard at work here. If the test had different results and showed the Sebenza was as strong as the CS knife many would be singing its praises.
 
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