Cold Steel VS Zero Tolerance

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asdf12345 said:
I like how you assumed first that I never owned any bearing knives and next that I have never experienced what I'm talking about. I'm not going to go through the entire list of bearing pivot knives I have owned because I have owned many in the past. Some with loose bearings, some with KVT and other caged bearings. I have no "suspicion" of bearings, I don't think they will fail when made well. But they are more annoying than washer pivots even in light EDC use because of dust and lint. After a few days to a week of clipping my knife to my bag, my pocket, IWB, and the drawer, there was usually enough junk in the trunk to make a noticeable difference.

I have never taken my bearing pivot knives outdoors where sand, dirt, and other assorted particles are around and on the materials I was cutting. But in this case I think it's logical to expect that with even more junk getting in the pivot area that it would be worse than the small amounts of dust & lint encountered through every day carry.

So far as bearings are unnecessary to good mechanical function of the knife, and that they cause greater inconvenience when used in dirty environments, and cost more money to have as a feature on a knife, I say that they detract from the 'hard-use' nature of any knife that they're on.
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so the answer is no. Thanks.
 
bodog said:
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Thank you for your level headed approach.

It is simple to say that more innovations would occur to improve liner locks should folks stop defending it to the death. But rather they should examine it with purposes towards improving it, making it stronger enough to stand on it's own merits despite environmental events such as valid negative pressures (e.g. getting stuck inside a branch if it cut in too deeply).

But nope, they still currently believe there is absolutely nothing wrong with it. That all real life events that actually occurred to disengage the liner lock were made up and/or a fluke. That is not respect, that is calling knife lovers who pointed those events out to be liars or delusional. That is rather sad seeing such polarizing behaviors on this forum.
 
Does anyone else notice that the folks who are so vehemently defending Cold Steel beyond rationality are super low post-count folks who joined years ago? Just an interesting observation. I mean, I guess that's one mark in the Win Column for Cold Steel: getting non-contributing members to come in and defend their brand to the death....by comb knife!!!!
 
Since this thread has devolved into childish pokes at CS's products and president. I want to point out that though ZT's are marketed as professional tools for soldiers and cops, I have yet to meet a soldier or cop who carries one. Pretty sure the bulk of ZT buyers hang out right here. Judging by the looks of these knives when members post pics, the knives are stroked like kitty cats while watching TV late at night.
 
LadyEarth said:
I've owned both Cold Steel and ZT knives and I would choose ZT knives (depending on which one, like ZT 550) any day of the week.

Why I like ZT over Cold steel like Crom asked:

~ ZT has better smoother handle design as opposed to Cold steel rough plastic feeling handles
~ Cold steel's handle will cut into my palm due to the plastic edges while ZT will ride though all tasks I subject it to with ease
~ ZT is made in America and I rather support American workers
~ ZT has more appealing visual designs from blades to handle that Cold Steel does not attempt to do much of.
~ ZT's customer service and willingness to provide us free materials is a huge plus
~ And more that I am forgetting

Does that answer your question, Crom?
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LadyEarth, super cool of you to lay this out, thanks!
 
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