Cold Steels Blade Weaknesses

KyleTuck

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All Cold Steel does is talk about how tough their knives are and then I buy one and this happens. I was cutting an electrical wire with my Cold Steel Voyager, with a VG-1 Stainless blade. It was free hanging and I made several quick chops on it and it cut it every time. It was a thin electrical wire but it chipped a piece out of the blade every time. I didnt notice it until I took a good look at the blade. Would Cold Steel fix it since it was not caused by grosse abuse.
 
that shouldn't have happened. I have cut thick electrical wire with my Spyderco Endura, and had zero edge damage.
 
Why would you cut wire with a knife when wire cutters are the PROPER tool? My Cold Steel knives are the sharpest out of the box, sharper than my Benchmade and have never failed to slice through anything that a knife was INTENDED for.
 
Tanto Fiend said:
Why would you cut wire with a knife when wire cutters are the PROPER tool? My Cold Steel knives are the sharpest out of the box, sharper than my Benchmade and have never failed to slice through anything that a knife was INTENDED for.

Probably because the Cold Steel DVDs imply that cutting mere electrical wire is a trifle of a task for their mighty knives. :rolleyes: But seriously, there are often times where I don't have the right tool for the job and have to improvise. Traveling outside the house makes this a frequent problem. Sometimes my knives(folders) do get used for prying and cutting nasty stuff like wiring and zip ties.
 
KyleTuck said:
I was cutting an electrical wire with my Cold Steel Voyager, with a VG-1 Satinless blade.
The Voyagers are still made with AUS 8. Are you sure about the knife? Waas it plain edge or Serrated?
KyleTuck said:
It was free hanging and I made several quick chops on it and it cut it every time. It was a thin electrical wire but it chipped a piece out of the blade every time.
Why were you cutting "free hanging wire"? was it job related or were you doing a mini "proof" on your own? :)
KyleTuck said:
Would Cold Steel fix it since it was not caused by grosse abuse.
Send in back with a short note in 2-3 weeks thay should send you a new one. They were real good about replacing my voyager after I beat the living hell out of it. (note: now that I am older and wiser I wouldn't have sent it back as it wasn't really damaged. I was just afraid I pushed the knife too far and my fellow Marine all damaged or destoryed their knives that day..)
 
my voyager never had vg1 on it, , that was only about 2 months ago. most of the serrations snapped cutting soft wood and cardboard!!! i then hammered it by throwing it at a tree(poem......"'PROOF' of the voyager")

then when day was young and the blade play high

i phoned those flecklers up

to send it back (or at least try)

but they must have known what was contained in my most devious plan

as when i dialled the number.....

they gave no reply(apparently by no fault of thyre own!)
 
Dantheman13, you must have got a lemon. The serrations on my vaquero have held up great and i've used them from evrything like cutting tree branches, cardboard, and rubber. They are still sharp as anything....
 
KyleTuck said:
It was free hanging and I made several quick chops on it and it cut it every time.

Generally, wires and such tend to want to be cut under tension and on a hard backing material if possible. If they are cut dynamically the copper core can twist and this puts a lot of lateral strain across the edge of the knife. It isn't unusual to have chipping in such situations. How much would be expected would depend on the gauge of the wire. If it is a plain edge blade and you have not sharpened it before, sometimes the initial edges on knives are fairly weak for various reasons and you might see better performance after honing.

-Cliff
 
Send it in, I've had good luck w/sending stuff in to cold steel, the blade snapped on my TI Ti-lite, it came back repaired about 3 weeks later.
 
shark tooth said:
Send it in, I've had good luck w/sending stuff in to cold steel, the blade snapped on my TI Ti-lite, it came back repaired about 3 weeks later.
How do you reapair a broke blade? Did they just put a new one on?
 
Clint Simpson said:
The Voyagers are still made with AUS 8. Are you sure about the knife? Waas it plain edge or Serrated?

It was a plain edge

Why were you cutting "free hanging wire"? was it job related or were you doing a mini "proof" on your own? :)

It was job related

Send in back with a short note in 2-3 weeks thay should send you a new one. They were real good about replacing my voyager after I beat the living hell out of it. (note: now that I am older and wiser I wouldn't have sent it back as it wasn't really damaged. I was just afraid I pushed the knife too far and my fellow Marine all damaged or destoryed their knives that day..)

What was the results of you beating the hell out of your Voyager?
 
Chipped edges in a new knife are pretty common, particularly with higher grade premium steels. Japanese White Steel and Blue steel knives for example are sometimes accompanied by a statement preparing you for this upon initial use of the blade and even with instructions on how to 'micro bevel' the edge for strength on your first sharpening. I would sharpen it out and see if it happens again. Chances are it will not recurr. If it does then I'd contact them about warranty work.

STR
 
Hey Kyle...

Since no one asked...

What was the thickness of the electrical cable ??

Was it like Ear Bud wire, like on an IPOD or electrical cable like the Edmund Fitzgerald mooring lines ?

ttyle

Eric...
 
I agree with Cliff Stamp's post completely, however, that said, any knife that cannot even cut light (soft)copper wire just plain sucks:thumbdn: my friends! Any decent knife worth its salt should take a good & fair amount of abuse. The only application I do not put my knives through is use as a crow bar, anything else is fair game.. ie, I have an old Ruana smokejumper that I use to cut in rounded door hinge hardware impressions into door frames when I hang doors on my side jobs. Its the perfect shape for the job. I just put it through a few licks on my Arkansas stones to get it razor sharp and grab my 32 oz eastwing hammer and make short work of this.. I have a favorite old Marbles woodcraft knife that I always take camping with me that I have been opening cans of pork & beans with(along with countess other cans of goodies) for decades. Directly after that chore she will slice up tomatos and such without ever missing a beat.

My .02 worth of advice:

(1) Take it back or send it back with a note for a full refund.

(2) Then take that money and spend a little extra $$ for a decent custom (like a Bob Dozier) or at least a higher end production knife (like maybe a swamp rat).

(3) Chalk it up as a life lesson and don't get sucked into anymore Cold Steals..:D
 
we told you not to bother with them.......it will probbly go straight over your head but really do trust 75% of what you hear here.

i spent £250+180+80+30+60+290+250 (+25 on a cs thrower i lost not broke which was actually good) all on cs stuff in about 2 months and then £50 on a spyderco penknife.

the only piece, and easily the best piece i own now out of all is the spyderco.

it dids me in that the best, nicest and most quality knife i had was nearly(except the spike-which broke) was the cheapest.

it would be nice if cs was worth buying but its not. at the end of the day-there is much better, much cheaper.+ why buy things from a dick head who lies to sell things. cs r a joke. the cheap stuffs ok (not-good) and the expensive stuffs a joke.

why buy from a company who most of theyre stuff blows but somes 'ok' . you setting yourself up for a fall like that. once you know what you like then you can be free to buy cs stuff without any danger of dissapointment. cs do not do what they say on the tin.

cs r better than stuff from the supermarket but it seems that if your really into knives they are a joke not worth hearing.
 
DANTHEMAN123 said:
we told you not to bother with them.......it will probbly go straight over your head but really do trust 75% of what you hear here.

i spent £250+180+80+30+60+290+250 (+25 on a cs thrower i lost not broke which was actually good) all on cs stuff in about 2 months and then £50 on a spyderco penknife.

the only piece, and easily the best piece i own now out of all is the spyderco.

it dids me in that the best, nicest and most quality knife i had was nearly(except the spike-which broke) was the cheapest.

it would be nice if cs was worth buying but its not. at the end of the day-there is much better, much cheaper.+ why buy things from a dick head who lies to sell things. cs r a joke. the cheap stuffs ok (not-good) and the expensive stuffs a joke.

why buy from a company who most of theyre stuff blows but somes 'ok' . you setting yourself up for a fall like that. once you know what you like then you can be free to buy cs stuff without any danger of dissapointment. cs do not do what they say on the tin.

cs r better than stuff from the supermarket but it seems that if your really into knives they are a joke not worth hearing.

W - T - F was allllll that about :eek: ?
 
I've had a medium clip point voyager for about 5 years that is my beater. I also own cutting pliers, funny concept.
 
KT,
Sorry to hear about blade chipping issues.:thumbdn:

Just read there Trail Master San Mai easily:eek: :rolleyes: cuts 4"+ manila ropes.I recieved the DVD but I chucked it.Do they include this footage in the DVD? :confused:
 
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