Cold Steels Blade Weaknesses

Cold Steel recently switched from AUS-8A to VG-1 stainless. On the Solid Proff DVD Lynn Thompson said they did because it is a better stainless than AUS-8A.
 
leatherbird said:
KT,
Sorry to hear about blade chipping issues.:thumbdn:

Just read there Trail Master San Mai easily:eek: :rolleyes: cuts 4"+ manila ropes.I recieved the DVD but I chucked it.Do they include this footage in the DVD? :confused:
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Thanks for actually giving a crap.
 
after snapping a cold steal in half throwing it at a wooden target i use for throwing i swear i will never let a cold steal blde in my home.... even if it was free. i have thrown shit chinese knives harder than the recon that busted in half. busse or bust.
 
valleytinworks said:
after snapping a cold steal in half throwing it at a wooden target i use for throwing i swear i will never let a cold steal blde in my home.... even if it was free. i have thrown shit chinese knives harder than the recon that busted in half. busse or bust.
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So You had a recon 1 and broke the blade? How many throws did it take to break it?
 
KyleTuck said:
So You had a recon 1 and broke the blade? How many throws did it take to break it?
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i had it for a week before it broke.... so not that many times... maybe three sessions.... maybe ten throws each..... they offered to send me another one.... i gave them my brothers address and told them to send it to him... he likes it... but he cuts boxes with it.... not trees.
 
So it took 30 throws to break and they offered to replace it...sounds like excellent customer service IMO.
 
a recon 1, a recon tanto, or a recon scout? I can't imagine any knife company offering to replace a folder that was thrown 30 times. I can't imagine them replacing one thrown once.
 
KyleTuck said:
What was the results of you beating the hell out of your Voyager?
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What my service buddies and I did was tear up an old plywood panel heading for the trash can. One guy's knife tip broke, the second guy's tip bent 90 degrees, and IIRC a pivot pin/locking device was ruined. Only my voyager seemed OK the next day. But I was worried that it might be damaged. After all, EVERY other knife have something wrong with it. I did notice some lateral blade play. I didn't remember being there before but I never really looked for it before either (I was a knife noob then, I only found this sight a few days before). A few months later I sent it in. I had lost confidence in the knife so it wasn't doing me any good. A few weeks later I have a brand new 4" clip point voyager in the mail.

With the new knife I notice some blade play, after all it is no-liner zytel, and soon learned that the knife can flex a little when broken in. So in all likelihood there was nothing wrong with the lock of the first one. I also noticed that my many attempts at learning to sharpen the first knife had taken off a good portion of belly and the tip.

In short, basically there was never really anything wrong with the knife.

I made out pretty good although that was not my intention.
 
valleytinworks said:
this one
http://www.coldsteel.com/13rtk.html
its no folder.....
and i have thrown my busse knives endlessly and treated them far worse than you could imagine and never had any issue... cold steel sux, its simple.
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Very smart fellow!..:thumbup: That is because a Busse is a quality made knife. Quality that is proven time & time again..

Its like my old Grandad use to say when I was very young:

Cheap knives are not good!.. And good knives are not cheap!.:cool:
 
valleytinworks said:
this one
http://www.coldsteel.com/13rtk.html
its no folder.....
and i have thrown my busse knives endlessly and treated them far worse than you could imagine and never had any issue... cold steel sux, its simple.
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I am not disparaging your opinion, but I would like to ask how you can possibly compare a $40.00 knife to a $300.00-600.00 knife? I would imagine a Busse would hold up much better than just about anything you could find below it's price range. I don't own a Busse, but from what I have heard and seen, they are about the toughest thing out there...and you get to pay for it. I don't own a recon tanto, but I do own a pendleton hunter, an ultimate hunter, and a master hunter all of which have given me great service under pretty rough use. Do I agree with LT's marketing strategy? hell no Do I sing the praises of Cold Steel? hell no Do I think that some of their stuff is a good value and bang for the buck spent? hell yes
 
The Busse Combat pieces the size of the Recon Tanto are not $300-$600, they are in the range of $200-$250, though still significantly more expensive than Cold Steel. The new Scrap Yard line would likely be a much closer price comparison, though I doubt they will be that low - one could hope though.

-Cliff
 
I think Lynn Thopson would make an excellent Snake Oil Salesman! I only bought two of their products but, never again!:thumbdn:
 
pogo said:
I think Lynn Thopson would make an excellent Snake Oil Salesman! I only bought two of their products but, never again!:thumbdn:
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You said you bought two of their products. What products were they and what problems did you have with them?
 
Jeez that sucks for you guys. My vaquero and scimitar have been nothing but great. The scimitar is a great slicer and the vaquero just gets abused. I've had it for a year and i've cut branches, thrown it, cut cardboard, and numerous other things and have not had the need to sharpen it once.
 
my triple action pins fell out on the second day of 'flipping' it. its catch 22, hasto be loose to flip, when loose enough to do so it breaks from being too loose.

i threw my spike for a couple a days and the cord snapped, which was glued on and tyhe handle badly painted black.
 
Cliff Stamp said:
The Busse Combat pieces the size of the Recon Tanto are not $300-$600, they are in the range of $200-$250, though still significantly more expensive than Cold Steel. The new Scrap Yard line would likely be a much closer price comparison, though I doubt they will be that low - one could hope though.

-Cliff
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I was thinking of the hell razor ($287.00 or $322.00 with mag scales), satin jack at over $300, etc. If others feel that these are not comparable in size (even though they have the same or shorter blade length) then I am sorry, but it is my opinion that they are.
 
Some of the new the limited runs are fairly expensive, the Razor is really tooled up with the multi-hollow ground bevel. The satin finished models are also more expensive. The standard line had a number of blades of similar size to the Cold Steel blade for the price noted, though still significantly more expensive, but even the full Fusion Battle Mistress wasn't $600. I have no idea what is going on with the line currently, it would be nice to see a run of 3-4 standard models. Back to the CS breaking, I have seen inconsistent behavior with that steel. I had thrown a Trailmaster and Recon Scout for a while, dozens of thrown at long distances, 50+ feet with no ill effects. They are generally solid when done right. A lot of the issues with Cold Steel tend to stem from how Thompson grates on people and thus they are not overly forgiving when a problem does happen. Plus with the huge amount of promotion "we make the sharpest and strongest knives", when this turns out to not be the case it tends to upset people a little more obviously.

-Cliff
 
I am not familiar with the original std line. I see the satin Jack tac is 497.00, and I guess the only 600.00 busse is the ak-47 which is a lot larger. I know that one fault of the recon tanto is that the blade and tang meet at a 90 degree corner which makes for an inherrent weak spot. Fixing just that one problem would do wonders for the knife. As for Thompson grating on people, you are 100% correct that he comes across as sort of a lying ass. I like some of their knives, but I don't like his "mis-promotion". If Cold steel knives were the sharpest and strongest then they would sell for prices at or above the range of Busse, Randal, or Reeve.....and everybody would love them.
 
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