Cold Steels new stuff put up on the website

From their latest update (the "GI Tanto")- "Please don’t throw away hundreds and hundreds of dollars on similar knives sold by convicted felons and rip off artists posing as elite “military operators”. Get the real G.I. Tanto from Cold Steel and get more than your money’s worth."
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Oh that is Hilarious.

I love it, we have an extremely generic tanto like thing with cord wrapped handles here and automatically the Strider panties reach an all time high.


That is the cheapest looking piece of crap I've ever seen Cold Steel put out and for some reason the Strider folks get all wet over it. Are the Strider guys supposed to be threatened by this thing? You guys don't actually take this seriously do you? Come on. Are you intimidated by Frost cutlery? Some how I don't see Mick and Duane sweating this knife.

"OMG they're on to us, No body's gonna buy our knives again ever...Weeeeeeeooooooeeee...whaddawegonnadooooooooo?!?!?!?!"

*ROTF*

Priceless. Someone call Lynn up and tell him it worked...

:D :D
 
I'm not a "Strider folk" but when CS obviously "digs up the dirt" on a single person who may not even be competing with them for the same buyer demographic it just seems mean and pointless.
I believe the intended target for the second part of the statement, about "rip off artists posing as elite military operators", is probably that Basil dude from Dark Ops. But I think around here its more acceptable to make fun of him anyway.
 
I just LOVE how ever single item CS sells is the best choper & cutter & stabber in the history of knifedom.
 
If that Strider rip off was in carbon V and a spear point I would buy it for twice the price. CS makes tons of stuff and keeps the stuff that sells. I am glad they made stuff like the shovel , kukuri machette and the baseball bat.
It seems like a cheap shot at Strider though as those guys have inovated alot that made CS money.
 
Had a old (bought in 1986) Cold Steel Recon Tanto that I held onto for sentimental reasons only. After this I plan on selling it.

I use to like Cold Steel knives. Now over the years I have watched them go to a lesser steel while the prices stayed the same or went up. I have gotten poor customer service trying to get my old Kuhkri re-profiled. Gave up trying and Tom Krein graciously did it for me. Then I have watched as Cold Steel started hacking on Strider Knives. Now we got this little jab here in advertising. :thumbdn:

Seems to me they should be worried on who will make their new batch of "Carbon V" steel and not worry about someone who makes their own knives.
 
That CS GI Tanto is listed as 4mm thick. That's about 5/32". For a 12" long knife with a 7" blade, that's thin. I'd prefer to see a knife that size at 3/16"-1/4". I guess they can get away with it since it has a low saber grind, but I sure wouldn't try to pry with it.
 
Halfneck said:
Had a old (bought in 1986) Cold Steel Recon Tanto that I held onto for sentimental reasons only. After this I plan on selling it.
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Don't understand that at all. Whether it was a user or a collector piece, why is it now suddenly no good? If it's a user, the quality of that particular knife didn't change because a new catalog came out. If it's a collector, don'tcha know that first-generation model will be worth more now because of the controversy and hype? ;)

Enough with the "Cold Steel's marketing sucks!" nonsense. We all know their claims are redonkulous, and there's pages upon pages of blah-blah-blah about it on this forum and, I'm sure, many others. Including of course, "Lynn Thompson stole the tanto design from ME...." :yawn: If you wanna talk smack, go to the next trade show or rich-guy-boar-stabbing-safari-convention and confront Lynn in person. Which will do about as much good as whining online, I'm sure. Heck, while you're at it, see if you can set up a LT vs. MS no-holds-barred cage match.

I'm just waiting to hear if this SK-5 stuff is any good the way they're having it made. Y'know, are the knives any good? I do not give a rat's patootie who thinks CS is "Cool" or not. When's the last time you all dug into the business ethics of GM, Ford, or your local power company? Not to mention the oil companies, you burn gas every day I bet. Gimme a break.

I admit, I'm somewhat less enthused about CS's new line, than I was about seeing Janet Jackson's wardrobe malfunction for the millionth time. But it IS possible that they'll put out good knives at a fair price, and if they do, I'll buy one.
 
Amen to that GibsonFan.

I have a few Cold Steel items that I use a lot. I really like the tools, and they have never let me down.

I also use other brands, among them being Grohmann and Frosts Mora knives. When I saw that Cold Steel had introduced their Canadian Belt Knife, I thought, "Cool! A Grohmann #1 at a Mora price!" For the price, I had to try one.
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I'm not too familiar with the steel. Time will tell how it holds up.
 
I got the CS AK47. It has real "tactical" look, wicked sharp blade - but the "wave" works only 50% at a time (I cut once my fingers bcoz it stuck open in my pocket :().
The Ultra lock's edges abuse my fingers - and sometimes I can't close the knife, because it jammed the lock. (I have to use a little screwdriver to loose the locking pin... :()
Interesting design, but I never trust my life on it.
 
The Krupp stuff does look a lot like the 420HC stuff Buck uses, and it seems to work okay for Buck. At least, they are still in business and they sell reasonably well-performing knives for reasonable prices. These CS 4116 Krupp knives are priced really low. Can't tell yet if it means they get the goods cheap or if it's low quality. I suppose only time, consumer reviews and this forum will tell.

But in the meantime, I think I will stick with Buck for low-cost stainless stuff. I haven't seen them bash the competition to sell a knife and, for the price, their stuff does well.

I may try an SK5 Recon Scout, but as far as I understand, Camillus is starting to make the Becker line again. If it's the same steel (50100, which as far as I know is Carbon V or Carbon V with another heat treatment), I'll just go with a becker combat bowie when I wear out my trailmaster. It's a good knife, but I got it as a factory second for $100. Not worth the $200 unless it's a custom knife as far as I'm concerned.

But who knows? maybe CS will have an ethical/quality upswing in a few years.
 
According to a PDF on this Krupp 4116 steel, it is:

NIROSTA® 4116 is used for parts which
are subject to wear, e.g. for high-quality
table and kitchen knives, penknife blades
and meat knives. Adding vanadium
improves wear resistance. The addition
of Mo improves corrosion resistance
compared to standard martensitics.
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It is similar to 425 Modified, which is used in the "Gerber 06701 E-Z Out" , the Gerber Applegate Fairbairn® Combat Folder Single Edge etc.

A quote from internetarmory.com:

The 420 stainless steel series is very resistant to corrosion, quite ductile, and tough under extreme circumstances. It is found in less expensive production knives. This stainless steel series, however, doesn't hold an edge as well as other tactical or premium stainless knife steels. Other than for salt water use as a diving knife, 420 is too soft a steel to be suitable for utility knife blades. 425 stainless is an improved form of 420.
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Therefore, the very cheap CS Finn Bear looks like a good knife to have stashed for an emergency somewhere, but not as a beater.

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Thanks for the link et tu.

May I ask your source for the info that the EZ-out uses 425m? I always liked that design but hated their steel (also the execution of the design has become sloppy in recent years). Maybe it was poor heat treat. Buck used that steel in a blade I have and it holds up much better than the EZ-out. I was never able to determine what steel was used so that I could avoid it in other blades.
 
Thanks for the link. The only comment that identified the steel as 425M was from some reviewer with little credential. One wonders what makes him think he knows that the steel is 425M. Gerber has never been terribly forthcoming about the identity of their low end steels.

But thanks.
 
That's a better source. The EZ-Out is listed as 400 series stainless, which somewhat begs the question. But 425M is a 400 series steel and if they use that on the applegate Fairbairn blade, it is not too much of a stretch to project its use on the EZ-Out.

Thanks even more.
 
seth2915 said:
The Krupp stuff does look a lot like the 420HC stuff Buck uses, and it seems to work okay for Buck. At least, they are still in business and they sell reasonably well-performing knives for reasonable prices. These CS 4116 Krupp knives are priced really low. Can't tell yet if it means they get the goods cheap or if it's low quality. I suppose only time, consumer reviews and this forum will tell.

But in the meantime, I think I will stick with Buck for low-cost stainless stuff. I haven't seen them bash the competition to sell a knife and, for the price, their stuff does well.

I may try an SK5 Recon Scout, but as far as I understand, Camillus is starting to make the Becker line again. If it's the same steel (50100, which as far as I know is Carbon V or Carbon V with another heat treatment), I'll just go with a becker combat bowie when I wear out my trailmaster. It's a good knife, but I got it as a factory second for $100. Not worth the $200 unless it's a custom knife as far as I'm concerned.

But who knows? maybe CS will have an ethical/quality upswing in a few years.
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Where did you hear that Camillus was going to start making the Becker line again? If so when?
 
Chambers said:
That [Cold Steel GI Tanto]is the cheapest looking piece of crap I've ever seen Cold Steel put out and for some reason the Strider folks get all wet over it.
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That comment is a few months old, but I feel compelled to mention that noss4 did a destruction test on this knife over in the Knife Reviews & Testing forum, and it turns out to be a damn tough knife for the price. It's going in my bug-out bag:

http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php?t=475539

This knife is available for a lot less than the $29.99 on Cold Steel's site if you look on places like eBay.
 
I just got my Shanghai Shadow today and the Blade on my G.I. Tanto defenantly seems a lot stronger due to the fact that only one edge is ground. I am getting another Tanto for my bug out bag also since they are so cheap and still fairly tough. I will have some fun with my Shanghai Shadow though. I think for most uses that I would use a knife for the Tanto blade is thick enough but the Shadow could certainly use a thicker blade.
 
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