Collecting Knife In The Uk, Pointless.

pogo said:
The Bad guys in the USA don't bother much with knives as the Auto Pistol is their weapon of choice! I can assume your gun control laws are working fine in the UK otherwise why carry a large knife? A hammer can do a lot of damage so, have they outlawed hammers yet in the UK? If not EDC a stout hammer! Nobody will bother you much when they see that sucker!
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This is absurd. The person starting the thread was referring to "collecting", not self defense, so what are you talking about?
 
tarmix101 said:
This is absurd. The person starting the thread was referring to "collecting", not self defense, so what are you talking about?
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i agree his post was a little off base, but it seems even collecting is a problem in the uk because of availability.
 
I hope and pray that Canada doesn't go nuts and outlaw knives."Sighs"then I'd have to become an outlaw.:D
 
I'm in the U.K. lived here all my life, i really don't see what all the fuss is about.
The knife laws at first glance seem absurd, but in reality it's not too bad. Granted, some knives i.e bali's, push daggers , knuckle knives are illegal to own, but practically eveything else is O.K it's just not legal to carry them unless you have a good reason to do so. The six year penalty would be the worst case scenario penalty, it's not an automatic sentence, as Maximus Otter pointed out the usual would be a caution. As for the availability of knives if you can find a knife shop in the U.K. that carries quality knives you'll find that they're priced way more than in the U.S. so for that reason all my purchases are made online from the U.S.A.

So really it's not that bad in the U.K. you just have to be careful where you carry. So from a collecting stand point i really don't see a problem...

Guns......we have them here as well, but that is controlled, you have to have a licence and be a member of a club. In a nutshell, no hand guns , no auto rifles, the shooting with firearms here is really more target oriented than combat oriented, but there is people here shooting with cool stuff i.e. .50 cal, straight pull AR's and all the bolt guns you can think of....not as much fun as in the U.S.but not too bad.....
 
Oh lord, another "Poor old UK, they can't own anything and I can't be bothered to do 5 minutes' research on Google to prove myself wrong" thread.

Currently, the absolute maximum penalty for merely carrying an illegal knife in public is 2 years' imprisonment. For all those who couldn't be bothered to read my earlier post, the vast majority of cases are dealt with by caution or minor fine.

Firearms are restricted more severely in the UK than in many US states. Handguns are effectively banned, as are semi-auto rifles. Bolt-action and lever-action rifles are widely used. Black powder and air rifle shooting are very popular. Shotguns are very common.

Shooting is, I believe, the most popular participation (as opposed to spectator) sport in the UK.

Here we have some advantages over US shooters. For instance: suppressors ("silencers") are not just legal, they are widely encouraged. There are no bag limits on game like deer.

A sub-3" slippie is the only legal EDC sure, but I have within 6' of me a Strider SMF, a Sebenza, a CS Trailmaster, a BM 710, a Spyderco Manix etc. I carry all of them regularly.

roundel said:
...some silly bobby with a baton...
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I am an ex-"silly bobby" Roundel, and I flatter myself that I did more for the public good than most keyboard commandos ever will.

maximus otter
 
It ISNT that bad! I own AND use a wide variety of big blades. Its all anbout being "appropriate". I wouldnt walk thru the centre of Manchester with a Kabar or Swamp Rat hanging from my belt without expecting to get hauled away by the cops, but then again Im sure NONE of my cousins in the US would walk thru a crowded, city centre like NYC, LA, Washington etc OPENLY carrying a fixed blade either!
When I go hiking/camping I DO take a large fixed blade (usually a Kabar, BK7 or SRKW Battle Rat) but I carry it strapped to the side of my Bergen & as Im generally in remote, high altitide areas the few people that I DO see are generally outdoorsy types, NOT sheeple & arent remotely alarmed by a knife.
I generally EDC a Buck/Strider 889, yeah its illegal but I cant say Im in any great fear of being randomly searched & arrested by a bobby as I dont walk about drawing attention to myself, causing trouble or behaving like a Twat!
 
Most urban cities in the world, with the population density of the UK, will not allow you to wear a knife in public.

Plus, if we list all our rights, we will all pity each other in some areas, but I love where I live... warts and all.
 
maximus otter said:
I am an ex-"silly bobby" Roundel, and I flatter myself that I did more for the public good than most keyboard commandos ever will.

maximus otter
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Maximus, I did not intent to insult the individual bobby such as yourself, but rather the practice of having most officers not carrying more than a baton. Were you able to carry a firearm while on duty, and if not, did you ever wish that you did? The funny fellows with the red coats and black fuzzy hats guarding doors and gates get to carry rifles, shouldn't the bobby walking the beat in a real neighborhood be nearly as well protected?
 
roundel said:
The funny fellows with the red coats and black fuzzy hats guarding doors and gates get to carry rifles
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Blimey!!! "Funny Fellows!!!"
Those guys are Guardsmen from some of the oldest, most decorated, most experienced & highly-trained Infantry regiments around who'll have seen action in Ulster, Falkland Islands, Iraq, Afghanistan, the Balkans etc! They might look "pretty" but they dont wear those red coats ALL the time ya know, in much the same way as US Embassy Marine guards are Im sure battle-experienced Sea Marines!!
 
To hell with England move to Texas. Thats why we had the American Revolution to get out from under their oppression. Now they are doing it again to their citizens. Stand up and fight for your rights or move to a better location.
 
:cool: If these are the laws now being enforced in the UK, you can bet the bleeding hearts here in America will try to import the same crap over here!:barf:
 
Sadly, it probably wont be long before more states try to adopt some of these laws. But in honesty, its not that bad. As I said before, I carry large fixed-blades quite openly hiking/camping and have had no problems. I dont see a need to carry a Kabar on my belt in Manchester city centre anyway. Im quite happy carrying my Buck/Strider anyway.
As for moving somewhere better, Id love to! Thanks for the offer!
Can I come & stay in your spare room until I find someplace of my own, Ashtxsniper? LOL
 
ashtxsniper said:
To hell with england move to Texas. That's why we had the American Revolution, to get out from under there oppression. Now they are doing it again to there citizens. Stand up and fight for your rights or move to a better location.
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The education is excellent too, I see :D
 
I like to carry fixed blades, folders or whatever I chose to. There is absolutely nothing positive about laws restricting knives and guns. Those of you who say it "isn't that bad", etc, have simply been indoctrinated into that way of thinking. Just because you can rationalize something to yourselves doesn't make it a reasonable or acceptable thing, It is still idiotic.
 
Rat Finkenstein said:
I like to carry fixed blades, folders or whatever I chose to. There is absolutely nothing positive about laws restricting knives and guns. Those of you who say it "isn't that bad", etc, have simply been indoctrinated into that way of thinking. Just because you can rationalize something to yourselves doesn't make it a reasonable or acceptable thing, It is still idiotic.
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I'm certainly not saying that I disagree with your contention that individuals should be able to carry what they'd like. Among other things, I feel I should be able to CCW a handgun here in NJ, as civilians in many other states can. However, I sometimes think about where lines can and should be drawn, and rarely do I arrive at any concrete conclusion. I'd honestly love to be able to EDC a katana, but is that really practical, or something that should be allowed by law? My point is that there clearly must be some regulations in place, it's just a matter of striking an acceptable balance.
 
Im certainly not indoctrinated. But I think TOO many British forum members give the US members the idea that we live in some sort of police state where people are just randomly stopped & searched and thrown in the clink for carrying a SAK, that just isnt the case.
Our laws are different, good or bad. I find it frankly ludicrous that you can legally buy & own all manner of firearms but you cant LEGALLY buy a £10 Tritium glowring!!!! Clearly our laws are different!!
Obviously, lines DO need to be drawn. YES, I would like to carry my Buck Strider legally (but I carry it anyway!) but I really wouldnt want people to be able to carry ANYTHING they want & though you like to carry whatever YOU choose to, I feel sure that IF you walked thru a busy city centre with WHATEVER YOU CHOOSE TO (a machete? a spear? a machine gun?) I think it would be reasonable or acceptable to arrest you.
I dont like the laws particularly but recognize their need to be there to stop people who dont have limits or any idea of whats reasonable, acceptable OR idiotic. I know you dont wanna carry a machete, spear or MG! That WOULD be idiotic!!
 
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