Collecting Knife In The Uk, Pointless.

savagesicslayer said:
I hope and pray that Canada doesn't go nuts and outlaw knives."Sighs"then I'd have to become an outlaw.:D
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As a Canadian myself EH. I can see the liberal, socialist types governing here
outlaw one hand openers, its looms over us. Try and get a pistol for target practise here, Paperwork, paperwork, red tape and more red tape. Many guys I know just gave theirs up, and I never even bothered to own one. Our government spent 2 Billion on a useless gun registry to which they even admit is flawed, go figure. They were even trying to get crossbows registered and licensing for users. Sad state of affairs when criminals will never register their firearms...sad sad sad! When I talk to elderly people here who had gun clubs in their high schools, summer camps back in their day and there was no gang banging issues back then (makes we wonder what really is wrong with today's society). I hope it makes my US bros think, slowly surely it can happen.:thumbdn:
 
Look at from the brighter side. You are a rich(er) man than all of us here :)

Hope that makes you feel better!
 
Tinderbox (UK) said:
pardon the pun.

but whats the point, you can`t take thme out of the house, if you caught carrying any thing with a blade longer than 3", you`l go down for six years.:eek:

I see all of the lovely knife for sale and am very tempted.:D

but why buy and have it sit on a shelf or in a draw forever.

what do other UK collector do.

regards.

John.
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i would move.
 
StuToffee said:
Im certainly not indoctrinated. But I think TOO many British forum members give the US members the idea that we live in some sort of police state where people are just randomly stopped & searched and thrown in the clink for carrying a SAK, that just isnt the case.
Our laws are different, good or bad. I find it frankly ludicrous that you can legally buy & own all manner of firearms but you cant LEGALLY buy a £10 Tritium glowring!!!! Clearly our laws are different!!
Obviously, lines DO need to be drawn. YES, I would like to carry my Buck Strider legally (but I carry it anyway!) but I really wouldnt want people to be able to carry ANYTHING they want & though you like to carry whatever YOU choose to, I feel sure that IF you walked thru a busy city centre with WHATEVER YOU CHOOSE TO (a machete? a spear? a machine gun?) I think it would be reasonable or acceptable to arrest you.
I dont like the laws particularly but recognize their need to be there to stop people who dont have limits or any idea of whats reasonable, acceptable OR idiotic. I know you dont wanna carry a machete, spear or MG! That WOULD be idiotic!!
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You clearly are indoctinated. You are under the impression that banning people from owning or carrying something will have positive results. The only positive goes to the criminals who don't obey the laws in the first place, and I am sure they appreciate having defenseless victims.
 
Specifically why I keep turning down the Office transfer offer to the UK.

Law is simple here. Abuse it aggressively, you go to Gaol (jail), deliberately kill some one they hang you. They have so many cameras in UK that they will be hard put not to catch some one abusing a knife.
 
roundel said:
Maximus, I did not intent to insult the individual bobby such as yourself, but rather the practice of having most officers not carrying more than a baton. Were you able to carry a firearm while on duty, and if not, did you ever wish that you did? The funny fellows with the red coats and black fuzzy hats guarding doors and gates get to carry rifles, shouldn't the bobby walking the beat in a real neighborhood be nearly as well protected?
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Roundel,

I came across as - how do you chaps from the colonies express it? - a bit snippy. I apologise for that.

In answer to your question, about 10% of UK officers are trained to carry firearms; I was not. There were occasions when a firearm would have felt nice, but they were very few and far between.

As an aside, I have owned and used handguns of all calibres from .22LR and .25 ACP up to and including the .44 magnum. That was before our laws became even more restrictive a few years ago.

If there had been an immediate threat - like the ones that the Guards are there to deal with - believe me, we were well equipped to deal with it. My force's standard rifle was the Steyr AUG, backed up with Glock pistols and Accuracy International 7.62mm rifles. Etc... ;)

I support the right to keep and bear arms. I am in favour of CCW. The flip side is that, for 30 years of police service, I was 99.9% confident that any incident I walked into would not involve a firearm in hostile hands. I know that "Freedom isn't free" yadda yadda, but that was nice...

To everyone in America who choruses "Move to the USA" in response to our restrictive laws here in the UK, I say, "I'll just pop the kettle on while you get the National Firearms Act of 1934 and the Gun Control Act of 1968 repealed."

All the people who ribbed us about our laws didn't do too well in getting the "Assault Weapons Ban" of the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act of 1994 quashed, did they?

;)

maximus otter
 
Tinderbox (UK) said:
pardon the pun.

but whats the point, you can`t take thme out of the house, if you caught carrying any thing with a blade longer than 3", you`l go down for six years.:eek:

I see all of the lovely knife for sale and am very tempted.:D

but why buy and have it sit on a shelf or in a draw forever.

what do other UK collector do.

regards.

John.
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That is insanity! If someone who is traveling from the U.S. to Europe (and has a couple of knives in his luggage) decides to spend a few days in the U.K. before he continues his travel will he be harassed or, even worse, have his knives confiscated once either entering or leaving the U.K.?
 
pinetree said:
Pretty soon you'll have to line up to get a mircro-chip implanted so they can track every move you make. Brits are the most spyed on people in the woeld and it is getting worse. I loved when I was over there on business, great people. I thought about trying to tranfer there, but the rules, regs and big brother really bother me.

1984 appears to have only been off by a little over a decade.

Cheers,
tjg
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That is exactly what I have had on mind:thumbup: !
 
roundel said:
How is anyone to feel safe without any protection? Surely the criminals who intend to mug, rape, or murder you are carrying whatever weapon they choose. If they were concerned with obeying laws, they would not be interested in mugging, raping, or murdering you. So what is a person being attacked to do in the UK? Yell, "stop or i'll say stop again!" or do they hope that some silly bobby with a baton fumbles on to the scene.
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With this kind of mindset one tends to believe that the legislation is working in favor of the hoodlums. I think there is confusion: the right of a person to defend their lives and the lives of the beloved ones is either mistakenly or, alas, on purpose confused with private justice. To me, there is a clear distinction between these two; unfortunately though this is not the case with the legislators.
 
Wow my spelling and grammar was pretty bad. Sorry I had been up for 48 hrs and wasnt overly concerned about it.
 
Rat Finkenstein said:
You are under the impression that banning people from owning or carrying something will have positive results. The only positive goes to the criminals who don't obey the laws in the first place, and I am sure they appreciate having defenseless victims.
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I will agree with this. Guns or knives do not have the tendency to commit crimes by themselves. Ill willed people though, will commit crimes. Remember that Cain killed Abel not with a state of the art knife or gun but with a very primitive weapon. It was the intention that made Cain commit the murder of his brother and not the weapon. Many people like knives and guns; does it make them all killers? Of course not! If we want to see a decline in crimes we need to be taught how to respect and honor one other. Unless we approach the issue of violence from this perspective I don’t care how many laws referring to gun / knife restrictions the legislators pass, they WILL FAIL! Period! Knives, guns, hatchets, tomahawks, hammers and what have you, DO NOT kill people. People kill people! I don’t advocate carrying a Katana while going to the super market however, there is a substantial distance between this and not been able to carry anything at all.
 
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Take a look at the historic knives of Sheffield.

You could put together a collection of knives from that era and have a great time doing so. They are still some of the finest knives ever made. I use pictures from knives of that error for inspiration (so do a lot of makers) when thinking of the next knife I want to have made.
 
I'm a Brit who's been into good knives for 35 years. I use my Randall Model 8 in the kitchen daily, its now got a good patina on the blade. Wish it didn't have a leather handle though. Using knives in the kitchen is about all we can do in this country, but actually gives you a good feel for them. Try cutting everything from the turkey to tomatoes. I find the best all round kitchen knife is the River Traders 4 inch Roach Belly knife in 1095 steel. It is a copy of a design used by early fir traders and originated as far back as the late middle ages in England. Nice curly maple handle.
 
There are plenty of nice knives you can collect in the UK. I (legally) carry the Victorinox Spartan SAK mentioned above (though I wish it had scissors instead of a spike).
Maybe it's just me, but why would you want to carry and use a nice collection-piece? But then I like to keep things as 'mint' as possible.

If you're interested, check out my collection (but please don't open the big pictures unless you really have to - my bandwidth is limited)
 
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