College blows...

XiaolongJackson said:
I carry my ZT0801 with me on campus. Knives over 2.5" blades aren't allowed but I get around this by not starting/getting into any trouble. The cops see it clipped on my pocket (there's a police station on campus) but they don't say anything about it. Of course, I wouldn't try this if I were black or Latino because then the cops would be on it in an instant.
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Good thinking but you forgot an ethnicity or two. What in the holy hell are you saying?
 
I know "times have changed" but a pocket knife was required equipment in the forestry program at Washington State U back in the early 70's. I find it hard to believe that all knives are banned when and where they are need as tools.
 
amg137 said:
Actually, this only applies to those visiting a campus. There is an exemption for college students and employees.
I know, because I work on a college campus. I ran it past the administration and campus police for confirmation.
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Here is a link to California penal code 626.10 from California's official legislative website- http://leginfo.legislature.ca.gov/faces/codes_displaySection.xhtml?lawCode=PEN&sectionNum=626.10

Down in section c it explains the exceptions. School employees are exempted. As well as students who are carrying a knife at the direction of a faculty member for use in school sponsored activities. In other words, students can't carry whatever they want, they have to receive specific permission to carry a knife for a specific school-related purpose.

There is also an exemption for possessing knives in ones on-campus residence for "lawful use".

CA pc 626.10 doesn't say anything about people visiting a college campus.
 
XiaolongJackson said:
I carry my ZT0801 with me on campus. Knives over 2.5" blades aren't allowed but I get around this by not starting/getting into any trouble. The cops see it clipped on my pocket (there's a police station on campus) but they don't say anything about it. Of course, I wouldn't try this if I were black or Latino because then the cops would be on it in an instant.
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Will you please explain the context of "i wouldn't try this if I were black or latino because then the cops would be on it in an instant"
 
How about Chapman university (California)? Their own rules say that a student can have a blade that can be less than 3 inches for any daily school activities. If the student rules allow a larger blade, is that the same as being allowed "at the direction of a faculty member," since faculty members made the rules?
 
XiaolongJackson said:
I carry my ZT0801 with me on campus. Knives over 2.5" blades aren't allowed but I get around this by not starting/getting into any trouble. The cops see it clipped on my pocket (there's a police station on campus) but they don't say anything about it. Of course, I wouldn't try this if I were black or Latino because then the cops would be on it in an instant.
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I can't believe I missed this ignorant comment:mad:

Honestly, just saying something like that around my part of town would get you in trouble, and not with the cops!
I'm Latino and I EDC without any problems...

Maybe collect some brain cells before you collect another knife, punk...
 
Maybe i need to read up on the rules a little better. I took "weapons free" to mean blades of any length. I attend a tech school in ga, so yall've got me thinking that my mini grip, or others under 3") might not be coverd under their policy. Glad i started this. It never hurts to read the rules twice.
evil baby killing weapons of mass destruction
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Hahaha
 
I'll be a senior this year, so (hopefully) I'll be on my way to college next fall. I'm not too concerned about anything like that, since most colleges around here have the 2.5 inch law, and those that don't, say WEAPONS FREE ZONE. I can carry within the limit in the 2.5 inch zones, and I don't think anyone will consider my Dragonfly to be a weapon:D

I think that's the key. If you are stopped, you have to make sure you insist that it's a tool. You aren't violating a weapons free zone by having a tool on you. But it's a lot easier when it's a dragonfly;)
 
The Government said:
How about Chapman university (California)? Their own rules say that a student can have a blade that can be less than 3 inches for any daily school activities. If the student rules allow a larger blade, is that the same as being allowed "at the direction of a faculty member," since faculty members made the rules?
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For a definitive answer on that you should consult with a criminal defense attorney. That's what I do when I have a question about California's knife laws.

I can give you my opinion though (which is not legally binding in any court). If official school rules say that students may carry a knife with a blade longer than the states legal limit (2.5") for "daily school activities" or similar language, then in my opinion that school policy would constitute permission from faculty and would therefore make it legal under state law.

But like I said, that's my opinion. It's a good question. And if I were attending that university, I would ask my lawyer.
 
I never needed a knife while I was on the campus of my college. I carried a small knife, which was within school policy, but I can't remember ever needing it throughout my undergraduate and graduate programs. Carry whatever the policy allows. It's not worth getting expelled when you're paying a ridiculous sum of money to attend.
 
i didn't read this whole thread... but from what i can tell from the internet, all that carefree sex and parties more than makes up for the lack of cutlery. Just follow enough rules to stay out of trouble, enjoy the ride and worry about the knives when you're done.
 
There is a very simple solution to this. As has been mentioned, get a SAK (preferably Alox) with a bottle opener. If someone spots it, immediately state, "Bottle opener for the beers, bro."
 
Pennsylvania doesn't define a vast majority of knives as weapons. With that said, I don't carry fixed blades and I carry folders within reason. I don't need a Spyderco Military or Benchmade Contego a vast majority of time at school. Just be sensible and read the atmosphere.

If you want to carry a knife and never have trouble, get a SAK or a traditional. I use mine openly at school.
 
The only place I go where I really can't carry a knife is in courthouses. Fortunately, I don't go to court often (I practice employment law so my of my work is not litigation), but when I do I don't bring a knife. All of the courthouses around here have airport type security (magnetometers etc) so I'm pretty sure they would catch a knife coming in.
 
SadSappySucker said:
Maybe i need to read up on the rules a little better. I took "weapons free" to mean blades of any length. I attend a tech school in ga, so yall've got me thinking that my mini grip, or others under 3") might not be coverd under their policy. Glad i started this. It never hurts to read the rules twice.

Hahaha
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Believe it or not many states do make the distinction between a "tool" and a "weapon." Even though it tends to be a little vague, it mostly deals with the overall blade length and if you "intend" to use it as a "weapon"

Obviously if you're seen using the knife as a tool and not flipping it and shaving hairs in the computer lab nobody will see that as a problem. I took it one step further and carried my Leatherman (I often needed the extra tools) since I've never met anyone threatened my a pair of pliers...well outside of horror movies where someone is strapped to a chair.
 
Stoney26 said:
Will you please explain the context of "i wouldn't try this if I were black or latino because then the cops would be on it in an instant"
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Blues Bender said:
I can't believe I missed this ignorant comment:mad:

Honestly, just saying something like that around my part of town would get you in trouble, and not with the cops!
I'm Latino and I EDC without any problems...

Maybe collect some brain cells before you collect another knife, punk...
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I took his comment to mean that the police in his jurisdiction tend to prey on minorities for whatever reason. Might just be that he's not a punk, Bender, but merely that he's observed multiple instances of such targeted harassment of minorities by law enforcement which then would make them the punks, no?
 
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