Condor knive, what steel they use?

A scratch can be only microns deep and still show. A scratch pattern just means that one object is harder than the other, not that it necessarily can remove material in bulk. The diamond file should have been able to make an impression, though. Might take time, but it would probably be capable. I've used the diamond file on my leatherman as an improvised slipstone from time to time, usually on dull lawn tools to good effect.
 
Well, the last one he posted up was. A small one and probably a very fine grit, but a diamond file. With one that narrow it would take time, my chosen method would probably be using it in draw-filing method to keep the bevel true.
 
kurodrago said:
Can you elaborate that for me, us?
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You can scratch S90V with a king waterstone but it will not sharpen the steel, you could scratch it with a file too but again it would not sharpen it. Sharpening is removing metal, you need a abrasive that's harder than the steel and its carbides to do it correctly. If not you will still scratch the steel but you will not sharpen it.

Steel is not one solid mix of one material, its like a bag of fused rocks and some rocks harder than the others. A abrasive or file thats only hard enough to scratch the metal is not hard enough to cut the metal and its much harder components like the carbides. Maybe a change in the use of terms would help, instead of scratch think cut. You can scratch steel but to sharpen it would be better to cut it.
 
knifenut1013 said:
You can scratch S90V with a king waterstone but it will not sharpen the steel, you could scratch it with a file too but again it would not sharpen it. Sharpening is removing metal, you need a abrasive that's harder than the steel and its carbides to do it correctly. If not you will still scratch the steel but you will not sharpen it.

Steel is not one solid mix of one material, its like a bag of fused rocks and some rocks harder than the others. A abrasive or file thats only hard enough to scratch the metal is not hard enough to cut the metal and its much harder components like the carbides. Maybe a change in the use of terms would help, instead of scratch think cut. You can scratch steel but to sharpen it would be better to cut it.
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Remember that you can cut a diamond with water but you can olso can scratch a diamond by water.
A abrasive & scratching motion "are the same thing, the only changes is finish that you can see in the microscope.
Do you know someone in place, that cut metal when sharpen knive?
My micro file can be 200 grind & my Japanese water stone is 10000 grind...both do the the same thing removing metal...different steel different result.
however you confuse people more than anything else, on the top that... the you compare File's vs leather strop capability "whit the word abrasive its wrong" but both are sharpening systems...

knifenut1013 that its ya on this thread

http://straightrazorplace.com/advanced-honing-topics/45676-new-member-checking.html
 
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The difference between the two walk a thin line, you could sharpen a knife with running water too but it would probably rust away before any sharpening happened. We have things like diamond and ceramic hones because steel became "harder" than a file or natural stone could cut. But again the steel is not one material and while you may scratch softer parts you only rub/polish others. You want the steel "cut" as a whole, not just the soft parts.
 
Again, to use the word CUT & Thin Line its wrong in the first place, there's only stock removal by micron 0,02- 0.01-0.000000007 and so on, more smooth is what you use for sharpen and more smooth will become the edge.... end of the story.
 
You must specify? the variety of File out there can change your truth?
I have a few diamond files......does not mean is made of diamonds:D:D
 
I answered a specific question no need to change it around. A diamond file will cut any steel its one of the hardest things known to man.....
 
A metal file (as in made of metal) is supposed to cut the steel, not just scratch it. If a file will only scratch it, you're better off getting a very coarse stone. You're playing with words here. Metal files are not efficient at removing material from a blade as hard as a Busse. Diamond files should work on any steel. Or you could try holding it under the faucet until it is sharp. Let us know when it gets there. :rolleyes:
 
Depending on the knife, it will work well. Don't use a Busse, or it will cut the Katana.
 
You know, as odd as that sounds, you might actually be able to use the spine of the blade to steel an edge onto a softer knife... I've never tried that, but I don't see a reason it couldn't work. Perhaps the spine of one of your Busses would be hard enough to use as a working steel.
 
Komitadjie said:
You know, as odd as that sounds, you might actually be able to use the spine of the blade to steel an edge onto a softer knife... I've never tried that, but I don't see a reason it couldn't work. Perhaps the spine of one of your Busses would be hard enough to use as a working steel.
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Yes you can but, at that point we have a penetration more than a cut, It will be HT steel vs not HT steel. I don't know the exactly terminology of it.:)
 
Well, I wasn't talking using the spine to actually remove metal, but more as a butcher's steel for maintenance between sharpenings. When you're steeling a blade, you're not removing metal, you're just re-shaping it to put the edge back in line.
 
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