Cool Knives in movie Avatar

it was like $300 million with $200 million on publicity

was i the only one that thought how ridiculous it was that those giant mech-walkers actually had knives at all? what are they supposed to use it for? make fuzz sticks out of entire trees?
 
I thought it was a bayonet attachment until he whipped it out, regardless of how thought out it was...Dang, that was cool.
 
yea my girlfriend got so mad at all my whisper comments of excitement over the knives, specially with the kabar, the natives knives did look really cool, and it was a bit over the top for the mech to have a knife to but as you've seen it did work well in combat. I guess you just have to have a knife in a more or less jungle where pretty much everything is trying to kill you
 
gundude73 said:
its dances with wolves combined with aliens. figure he started thinking about the movie 15 years ago. right when dances with wolves came out
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FTO_dude said:
it was like $300 million with $200 million on publicity

was i the only one that thought how ridiculous it was that those giant mech-walkers actually had knives at all? what are they supposed to use it for? make fuzz sticks out of entire trees?
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LOL yeah that is stupid. The story was awesome as were the CGI effects. The characters were great except; the CEO. I mean, I understand humans are selfish, destructive, arrogant, and ignorant, but.........do we need to wrap all off these characteristics in a whiny CEO who was placed in charge of arguably the most important mission for the most important corporation on Earth?

I realize now I'm complaining that Camaron didn't choose an obvious stereotype for his CEO.
The Marine General was cool. Nearly unstoppable and carried a large bowie knife.
 
toward the end there was some classic "im the nasty CEO but i have a heart" shots and i totally expected him to change his mind and thus, one of the main embodiments white corporate america was shown to be sympathetic. but no
 
As the rumor is and what it looks like form the movie, Cameron and crew spent considerable time on scientific part.
Given that, it is absolutely not understandable and illogical that earthlings bothered with going in on foot, or rigging that shuttle with high explosives. A heavy metal rod such as Tungsten, Lead, etc launched from the orbit with a most primitive chemical booster would have enough kinetic energy to cause few megatons explosion. Clean, no radioactivity, no money spent on unnecessary military equipment, insurance/salary for the troops and all that...
At the very least just hurl an asteroid or two to do the job... After all they're still going in for the kill.
Staging an "accidental asteroid impact" is mucho better for the PR than merc assault they chose to do...

Apparently Na'vi had a pretty good spas, considering how well groomed they all were.

Also, given their built in "internet" capability it is very strange the civilization would be at that stage of development. Humans managed to do a lot better since the invention of much more primitive printed word, and what global connectivity can do is quite clear today...

MecWarior gun which looked quite substantial was shooting what? Nothing strong enough to deal with those hammerhead thingies? Humans capable of interstellar travel forgot how to build a good gun after all?
 
Gator97 said:
Also, given their built in "internet" capability it is very strange the civilization would be at that stage of development. Humans managed to do a lot better since the invention of much more primitive printed word, and what global connectivity can do is quite clear today...
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Don't forget people like the Mayans.

Many say they were more advanced that people were of that time, and look how they lived compared to western settlers?
 
Yeah, look where did that got them ;)
Seriously, achievements of Mayans in astronomy were impressive and perhaps in some other areas too, but overall science and technical level was way below.
And that has its own explanation too, with religion in Europe suppressing astronomy and geology really severely and in Mayan civilization astronomy being part of religion...
 
Gator97 said:
Also, given their built in "internet" capability it is very strange the civilization would be at that stage of development. Humans managed to do a lot better since the invention of much more primitive printed word, and what global connectivity can do is quite clear today...
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This assumes that they had the same amount of time as a species as the humans had.
 
Gator97 said:
As the rumor is and what it looks like form the movie, Cameron and crew spent considerable time on scientific part.
Given that, it is absolutely not understandable and illogical that earthlings bothered with going in on foot, or rigging that shuttle with high explosives. A heavy metal rod such as Tungsten, Lead, etc launched from the orbit with a most primitive chemical booster would have enough kinetic energy to cause few megatons explosion. Clean, no radioactivity, no money spent on unnecessary military equipment, insurance/salary for the troops and all that...
At the very least just hurl an asteroid or two to do the job... After all they're still going in for the kill.
Staging an "accidental asteroid impact" is mucho better for the PR than merc assault they chose to do...
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Not only that, but the humans could feign concern for the natives over the "disaster", and move in to render "assistance"- relocate them wherever they wanted. Making themselves "good guys" while getting what they want.
 
The only take away I got from this thread is the word "Snarky" Snarky, snarky, snark, snark!:thumbup::thumbup: I have an irrational fear of flat nosed blue skinned bipeds with large eyes. I bet the optometrists on that planet there are kept up on a pedestal like a Beverly Hills plastic surgeon. I have a rational fear of making my political opinions known outside of the Political sub forum. So, snarky snarky, snark snark!
 
The real problem of this visually stunning movie is the message it sends. By the climax of the film, you're supposed to be on the edge of your seat pumping your fist in the air, shouting, "Yeah! Get those lousy capitalist, despoiling humans! Drive those nasty humans back to their dying planet! Because..." And then you stop and think. "Uh... wait. Aren't we the humans?"

The message of the film is that humanity is intrinsically evil and that the military is comprised of heartless, bloodthirsty baby killers. The movie's protagonist first betrays and turns his weapons on his own fellow Marines -- and then ultimately gives up (or so we're made to hope) his own humanity in order to complete his transformation from human to Na'vi. In his own narration, Jake tells the viewer that the hated humans are being "sent back to their dying world" -- where, presumably, their search for Unobtanium thwarted, they will join the choking, suffering throngs of their fellow despoiling humans until they all die a slow and miserable death.

The movie is visually impressive, but philosophically, it's the most hateful thing anybody in Hollywood has ever managed to create. It casts as the villains of the film the entire human race, and asks its human viewers to cheer along.
 
Well put Phil. I thought calling the material "Unobtranium" worked great as a metaphor for capitalist fervent pursuit of "unattainable" satisfaction.

I also like the statement made about "There is nothing we can offer that they want". There not going to trade for *something* and light beer".

It was a cool quote that emphasized the point that technology and capitalism can give us machines of war and entertainment. But it cannot compete with the beauty and simplicity of living as one with nature, circle of life, the Force, Yogurt (may the shwartz be with you), or Na Wi:D

Already this film has grossed over a billion dollars. I may see this movie again I keep thinking about it.
 
DrivebyTrucker said:
I also like the statement made about "There is nothing we can offer that they want". There not going to trade for *something* and light beer".
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That was my biggest problem with the movie. Basically it says human kind haven't created anything better than blue jeans and light beer. Which is pretty hateful and nihilistic statement.
I agree with Phil, it's one of the most mankind hate movies ever...
 
Kaizen1 said:
This assumes that they had the same amount of time as a species as the humans had.
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Printed word was mid 15th century. Internet, well let's count from mid 90s, early ARPA net doesn't count, it wasn't www.
Most of the inventions are after that time... For obvious reasons. I.e. less than 600 years.
So, given the fact that na'vi have it all built in, it should not have taken them more than 200-300 years to go space born, or at least be around humankind 19-20 century...
 
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