Copyright?

[sunshadow]

Im my opinion It is a functional feature (the Busse hole) that is unpatentable due to prior art stretching all the way back to the middle ages so it was copyrighted to prevent others from being able to make a knife with a forward lanyard hole. The difference between this and the "Spyder hole" and the "Axis Lock" is in my opinion this is a non original design. The Spyder Hole was a major innovation for a cheap way of enabling one hand opening that had not been used on a folder before. If you know how to game the system and have a good attorney the patent/copyright office is not staffed by experts in all of the millions of manufacturing genres so it is easy for people to slide one by them, just my opinion based on a number of similar items that have come up.

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[Justin King]

My tiny brain just won't accept the idea that someone can own the rights to a feature that is so obviously un-original and seemingly generic in nature that it can be found on any number of products in the form of a "fastener hole", among numerous other names/uses...can someone please explain to me how one would distinguish a "Busse Hole" from a bolt or rivet hole that just happened to fall in the same area of a knife (or a plain old drilling mistake by an incompetent knifemaker, for that matter...)?

I wonder if one could by-pass the whole issue by putting a plastic insert into the hole...something that is "attached" but presumably not too difficult for the customer to remove after ownership has been transferred...

 

[Czechmate]

My tiny brain just won't accept the idea that someone can own the rights to a feature that is so obviously un-original and seemingly generic in nature that it can be found on any number of products in the form of a "fastener hole", among numerous other names/uses...can someone please explain to me how one would distinguish a "Busse Hole" from a bolt or rivet hole that just happened to fall in the same area of a knife (or a plain old drilling mistake by an incompetent knifemaker, for that matter...)?

I wonder if one could by-pass the whole issue by putting a plastic insert into the hole...something that is "attached" but presumably not too difficult for the customer to remove after ownership has been transferred...

A situation came up a while back regarding the talon hole; a BF member had designed a custom Busse Killa Zilla look alike "unintentionally" and it had the foward talon hole in the front guard. I believe Busse pounced all over that situation to ensure no more blades like it (other than true Busse's) were produced.

 

[andimichel]

I think copy rights,patents and trade mark are same thing and all these are called intellectual property of a registered business enterprises.In genral these are same but when we are specific then there might be slight difference among these.

 

[Rick Marchand]

I think copy rights,patents and trade mark are same thing and all these are called intellectual property of a registered business enterprises.In genral these are same but when we are specific then there might be slight difference among these.

I don't think they are the same at all. If they were, there wouldn't be separate laws, governing them.

 

[LX_Emergency]

All I know for sure is don't use Ernie Emerson's "Wave" or Busse's "Tallon Hole" patent. You will be called out quickly and dealt with severely. If it is at a show, Ernie will most likely tip your table and put your dominant arm out of joint...

And then you could sue the CRAP out of him for assault?

 

[LX_Emergency]

Here's the thing that I'm wondering......are Trademarks internationally recognised? Because one of the examples given in this thread was Busse trying to stomp all over a guy in Korea.....but I honestly don't think there'd be much they could do about it across borders.

I'm just thinking about all the copies coming out of china of Sebenza's Hinderers, etc etc etc.....you can just about stop that as well as shouting at a thunderstorm will stop the lightning...

But I could be wrong offcourse.